Game 69: Orlando Magic (24-44) @ Golden State Warriors (53-14) - 10:30 PM ET

JAY DASH · Post #121 » by **JAY DASH** » Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:34 am

And I've defended Vuc but I like this team more when Elf is the motor of the offense.

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Post #122 » by **SOUL** » Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:35 am

Defense was such a mess this game. The offense was bad too, but we looked completely out of sync defensively.

Blue_and_Whte · Post #123 » by **Blue_and_Whte** » Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:35 am

JAY DASH wrote:The good news is Raptor fans are sick of Serge already. The bad news is Dipo's been on fire since he returned from the back spasms.

If AG doesn't dominate Marquees Chriss tomorrow I just don't know what to say about him.

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AG doesn't dominate anyone so don't hold your breath

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PennytoShaq · Post #124 » by **PennytoShaq** » Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:36 am

thelead wrote:
PennytoShaq wrote:
thelead wrote:I want to tank, so this isn't crushing my soul. Knowing that the Martins will continue to lead this **** is pissing me off though. And you were wrong, so at least I get to win that argument

The main point I was right about, which I think you missed - regardless what past lineup you rolled out, our team is not ready for the big time yet. We need to keep rebuilding and drafting. And yes, Martins sucks.

Yes, but we should have kept the Dipo and Harris. No, they're not stars but they're better than most, if not ALL, of our players. You can lose with Dipo and Harris (and we proved that for years). My only gripe right now is management. When you choose Fournier over Dipo, you clearly don't know what you're doing. Do you trust Martins and whoever his GM is to draft/develop the right guy?

Dipo and Fournier put up very similar numbers playing the same position for the Magic, except Evan scored more points and shot better from 3. I posted the stats in the Ross thread. Fournier is also the younger player. It's not crazy to choose Fournier over Dipo, especially for a team that needs 3 point shooters. Remember, Evan shot 40% from 3 last year. The only reason Dipo is shooting better this year is he gets insane spacing playing next to Westbrook.

I don't miss Harris and Dipo simply because they are not game changing players. Harris does not even start now and Detroit is not a good team. We could have kept Dipo but he wanted to be the man and I doubt he'd take kindly to a guy like Tatum coming in and showing him how to score 20 plus a game.

Is management great? No. But the NBA is tough. Look at Mil. Hw are those guys still not in the playoffs? Why is Minny so damn bad with a great coach and elite young players? The NBA is hard. We will get things back on track but it won't happen overnight.

thelead · Post #125 » by **thelead** » Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:36 am

ChosenSavior wrote:
rcklsscognition wrote:Just imagining anyone on our current roster coming back next year actually makes me sick.

You and me both especially when it comes to Bismack and Augustin who are both awful.

Ironically, I think they're just awful because they play for us. Could you imagine DJ just shooting open threes for GS or the Cavs... Biz is a tougher fit since he's so terrible on offense but he looks especially bad on the magic. I would like to see Biz's contract gone for sure. DJ can go because we try to use him like a star instead of a backup pg. DJ should be a backup for a contender.

rcklsscognition · Post #126 » by **rcklsscognition** » Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:37 am

Someone needs to identify the lost Magic fan that spent multiple grand to fly from Australia to watch this and the Kings game in person. That guy needs a hug.

Post #127 » by **FFBlitzace** » Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:37 am

Cj rises for a chuck, sees the defender right there, throws it away. Next possession, immediately chucks again. He will not be denied.

And now for the hat trick.

Blue_and_Whte · Post #128 » by **Blue_and_Whte** » Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:40 am

Great inbound play.... Jesus H

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thelead · Post #129 » by **thelead** » Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:40 am

Blue_and_Whte wrote:Great inbound play.... Jesus H

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Zero movement

Statlanta · Post #130 » by **Statlanta** » Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:41 am

Anyone notice CJ almost fumble that inbound out of bounds. That was Pure Magoc right there.

Blue_and_Whte · Post #131 » by **Blue_and_Whte** » Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:42 am

thelead wrote:
Blue_and_Whte wrote:Great inbound play.... Jesus H

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Zero movement

Nope.

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Post #132 » by **ChosenSavior** » Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:43 am

thelead wrote:
ChosenSavior wrote:
rcklsscognition wrote:Just imagining anyone on our current roster coming back next year actually makes me sick.

You and me both especially when it comes to Bismack and Augustin who are both awful.

Ironically, I think they're just awful because they play for us. Could you imagine DJ just shooting open threes for GS or the Cavs... Biz is a tougher fit since he's so terrible on offense but he looks especially bad on the magic. I would like to see Biz's contract gone for sure. DJ can go because we try to use him like a star instead of a backup pg. DJ should be a backup for a contender.

You're right about DJ. He would probably be more reigned in on a contender. I'm disappointed in him because he was actually pretty damn solid with the Nuggets last season. Biz does not fit us at all. Just a horrible signing overall. When he was playing well for the Raptors, I knew a team was going to overpay for his services and was praying that it would not be us. Have to find a way to rid ourselves of both contracts.

PrimeThyme · Post #133 » by **PrimeThyme** » Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:44 am

I just can't consider nights like these good tank nights at all. Where elf and AG don't play a good chunk of the game because we're getting anahilated like this. These 30+ point blowouts are just bad for the culture of this franchise. If any of the guys on this team are going to be part of the long term future it's hard to imagine that games like this are doing anything to help them. It's just embarrassing on all fronts.

PennytoShaq · Post #134 » by **PennytoShaq** » Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:45 am

It's the best small ball team in the world versus a weak team that just switched to small ball 4 weeks ago. These guys can defend everyone on the court so well. When a team as bad as us on offense comes in on a road trip, it's not a huge surprise to me that we got run.

Post #135 » by **ChosenSavior** » Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:45 am

Rudez does not belong in the NBA whatsoever.

TBbucmagicORL · Post #136 » by **TBbucmagicORL** » Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:48 am

Horrible game. All this agony will be with it when we win a chip. I'm 30 now, I just want one before I die basketball gods, please!

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Post #137 » by **FFBlitzace** » Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:48 am

That was a classic Rudezing. 0-1, 1 turnover, 2 fouls, nothing else.

Post #138 » by **Howard Mass** » Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:48 am

The Magic just got runover by a great team tonight.

Post #139 » by **ChosenSavior** » Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:49 am

PrimeShaq wrote:I just can't consider nights like these good tank nights at all. Where elf and AG don't play a good chunk of the game because we're getting anahilated like this. These 30+ point blowouts are just bad for the culture of this franchise. If any of the guys on this team are going to be part of the long term future it's hard to imagine that games like this are doing anything to help them. It's just embarrassing on all fronts.

It's been a recurring theme all season. The scary part is that we are getting obliterated while actually trying to win.

Blue_and_Whte · Post #140 » by **Blue_and_Whte** » Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:52 am

ChosenSavior wrote:
thelead wrote:
ChosenSavior wrote:
You and me both especially when it comes to Bismack and Augustin who are both awful.

Ironically, I think they're just awful because they play for us. Could you imagine DJ just shooting open threes for GS or the Cavs... Biz is a tougher fit since he's so terrible on offense but he looks especially bad on the magic. I would like to see Biz's contract gone for sure. DJ can go because we try to use him like a star instead of a backup pg. DJ should be a backup for a contender.

You're right about DJ. He would probably be more reigned in on a contender. I'm disappointed in him because he was actually pretty damn solid with the Nuggets last season. Biz does not fit us at all. Just a horrible signing overall. When he was playing well for the Raptors, I knew a team was going to overpay for his services and was praying that it would not be us. Have to find a way to rid ourselves of both contracts.

The Bismack signing will go down as one the worst right next to the dipo trade.

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