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Best player comparisons for draft's consensus top 10

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Re: Best player comparisons for draft's consensus top 10 

Post#21 » by NEM » Sat May 20, 2017 4:56 am

1) Fultz - D'angelo Russell
2) Ball - Jason Kidd
3) Jackson - Jimmy Butler/Andrew Wiggins
4) Tatum - Tobias Harris with a better handle
5) Fox - John Wall
6) DSJ - Damian Lillard
7) Isaac - Kevin Durant minus the aggressiveness
8) Monk - Lou Williams
9) Markkanen - Nikola Mirotic
10) Ntilikina - Dante Exum
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Re: Best player comparisons for draft's consensus top 10 

Post#22 » by Bensational » Sat May 20, 2017 6:28 am

Def Swami wrote:1. Fultz - James Harden
2. Ball - Jason Kidd with a jumpshot, Penny Hardaway
3. Jackson -Jimmy Butler, Andrew Wiggins
4. Tatum - Paul Pierce, Danny Granger
5. Fox - Dennis Schroeder, Elfrid Payton
6. Monk - CJ McCollum, Zach Lavine
7. Smith - Steve Francis, Baron Davis
8. Isaac - Rashard Lewis, Harrison Barnes, Marvin Williams
9. Markkanen - Ryan Anderson, Channing Frye
10. Ntilikina - :dontknow:


Very solid, and close to my thoughts. Expanding on this...

1. Fultz - James Harden
2. Ball - Jason Kidd with a jumpshot (and less defense)
3. Jackson -Jimmy Butler/Andrew Wiggins/Andre Igoudala/Stacy Augmon
4. Tatum - Paul Pierce/Danny Granger/Tobias Harris/Antawn Jamison/Keith Van Horn
5. Fox - Dennis Schroeder/Elfrid Payton
6. Monk - JJ Redick/Trajan Langdon
7. Smith - Damian Lillard/Isaiah Thomas/Stephon Marbury/Steve Francis/Baron Davis
8. Isaac - Rashard Lewis/Harrison Barnes/Marvin Williams
9. Markkanen - Ryan Anderson/Channing Frye
10. Ntilikina - Russell Westbrook/Giannis Antetokumpo/Dante Exum/Rajon Rondo (with 3pt range)
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Re: Best player comparisons for draft's consensus top 10 

Post#23 » by npiper17 » Sat May 20, 2017 8:00 am

Seems like most think DSJ will be better than the likes of Tatum and for some, Fox as well.
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Re: Best player comparisons for draft's consensus top 10 

Post#24 » by DiplomaticMagic » Sat May 20, 2017 12:22 pm

1. Fultz - D'Angelo Russell
2. Ball - Jason Kidd
3. Jackson - Andre Igoudala
4. Tatum - Danny Granger
5. Fox - Poor Man John Wall
6. Smith Jr - Steve Francis
7. Isaac - Al Harrington
8. Monk - Ben Gordon
9. Markanen - Ryan Anderson
10.Ntilikina - Dante Exum
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Re: Best player comparisons for draft's consensus top 10 

Post#25 » by The Effect » Sat May 20, 2017 10:26 pm

These are not the best comparisons, more like "best case scenarios"

Fultz - Westbrook/Rookie Tyreke Evans (not meant as in insult, after his rookie year, i thought Evans was going to take over the league the way Westbrook did this year)
Ball - jason Kidd
jason - Andrew Wiggins
Tatum - Jabari Parker
Fox - Better version of Elf
DSJ - Steve Francis
Issac - Rashard Lewis
Monk - Monta Ellis
Markkanen - Ryan Anderson
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Re: Best player comparisons for draft's consensus top 10 

Post#26 » by DontPushMe » Sun May 21, 2017 5:00 am

Agreed on tyreke Evans. Such a strange career he's had. Had an amazing rookie season, I thought he was the next superstar. Has consistently gotten worse sense then. Literally no improvement since his rookie year. Very odd
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Re: Best player comparisons for draft's consensus top 10 

Post#27 » by Bensational » Sun May 21, 2017 5:32 am

A lot of these comps have been "best case" examples, but looking back at recent drafts, a lot of players haven't come anywhere close to most of those names, yet:

Bennet / Wiggins / Towns - One bust, one stud scorer, one of the best bigs in the game

Oladipo / Parker / Russell - role playing starter, impact scorer, jury is still out on RDA

Porter / Embiid / Okafor - stepping up as a #3 option, best big in the game?, offensively skilled but bust for his position

Zeller / Gordon / Porzingis - defensive role player, defensive role player, stud big man

Len / Exum / Mario - bench big?, bust?, bust?

Noel / Smart / WCS - defensive big, defensive guard and great 6th man, defensive big

McLemore / Randle / Mudiay - bust, starter, bust?

KCP / Stauskas / Stanley Johnson - starter, bust?, bench guy?

Burke / Vonleh / Kaminksy - bust, bust?, bench scoring big

McCollum / Payton / Winslow - steal star, starter, starter

MCW / McDermott / Turner - bust, role player, steal star

Adams / Saric / Lyles - defensive big, steal scorer, defensive big

Olynyk / LaVine / Booker - scoring bench big, steal stud, steal stud


With these guys in mind, I tried to comp the rookies to them, not as direct comps, but as the kind of impact they could have with a degree of scale (Best - Worst):

Fultz - Embiid/McCollum/Parker
Ball - LaVine/Saric/MCW
Jackson - Wiggins/MCW
Tatum - Porter/Parker/McDermott
Fox - Elf/Smart/MCW
DSJ - McCollum/Russell/Burke
Issac - Porzingis/Winslow/Vonleh
Monk - Booker/McDermott/McLemore
Markkanen - McDermott/Olynyk/Kaminsky
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Re: Best player comparisons for draft's consensus top 10 

Post#28 » by pepe1991 » Sun May 21, 2017 7:24 am

Bensational wrote:A lot of these comps have been "best case" examples, but looking back at recent drafts, a lot of players haven't come anywhere close to most of those names, yet:

Bennet / Wiggins / Towns - One bust, one stud scorer, one of the best bigs in the game

Oladipo / Parker / Russell - role playing starter, impact scorer, jury is still out on RDA

Porter / Embiid / Okafor - stepping up as a #3 option, best big in the game?, offensively skilled but bust for his position

Zeller / Gordon / Porzingis - defensive role player, defensive role player, stud big man

Len / Exum / Mario - bench big?, bust?, bust?

Noel / Smart / WCS - defensive big, defensive guard and great 6th man, defensive big

McLemore / Randle / Mudiay - bust, starter, bust?

KCP / Stauskas / Stanley Johnson - starter, bust?, bench guy?

Burke / Vonleh / Kaminksy - bust, bust?, bench scoring big

McCollum / Payton / Winslow - steal star, starter, starter

MCW / McDermott / Turner - bust, role player, steal star

Adams / Saric / Lyles - defensive big, steal scorer, defensive big

Olynyk / LaVine / Booker - scoring bench big, steal stud, steal stud


With these guys in mind, I tried to comp the rookies to them, not as direct comps, but as the kind of impact they could have with a degree of scale (Best - Worst):

Fultz - Embiid/McCollum/Parker
Ball - LaVine/Saric/MCW
Jackson - Wiggins/MCW
Tatum - Porter/Parker/McDermott
Fox - Elf/Smart/MCW
DSJ - McCollum/Russell/Burke
Issac - Porzingis/Winslow/Vonleh
Monk - Booker/McDermott/McLemore
Markkanen - McDermott/Olynyk/Kaminsky



This is lottery in nutshell. Lot of prospects are ovehyped and overrated every year. Among top 10 picks you always have 2-3 busts and at least two guys who are nothing like scouts were saying they will be at nba level.
Noah Vonleh , being compared to Aldrige comming into nba was probably worst player comparison in years, looking from todays perspective. Well Wiggins ad Lebron, Ingram and Durant are right there as well.
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Re: Best player comparisons for draft's consensus top 10 

Post#29 » by drsd » Sun May 21, 2017 7:50 am

Def Swami wrote:4. Tatum - Paul Pierce, Danny Granger
8. Isaac - Rashard Lewis, Harrison Barnes, Marvin Williams



An interesting thought that Tatum is an all-arounder that is not great at any one thing. And that Isaac is a 3 and D guy.

For this team, either could work very, very well.


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