Sixers Offseason thread/ sixerfan1976 updated to page 84

sixerfan1976 · Post #1411 » by **sixerfan1976** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 10:26 pm

PhilasFinest wrote:Eh...I wouldn't take Zeller over Leonard. He doesn't block shots.

He does but he doesnt to the extent Leonard can. I wouldnt take either to be honest. Zeller can give you more offense right now. And is a good rebounder.

darius08 · Post #1412 » by **darius08** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 10:26 pm

sixerfan1976 wrote:
darius08 wrote:
sixerfan1976 wrote:and of course sullinger who they checked out and think his back is not gonna be an issue.

I just dont see how you draft sullinger without giving him a physical of your own. especially when the nba doctors red flagged him.

who says they didnt?

it was reported he wasn't able to come in...but you may know something!

sixerfan1976 · Post #1413 » by **sixerfan1976** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 10:29 pm

who says they didnt?[/quote]

it was reported he wasn't able to come in...but you may know something![/quote]

he definitely didnt come in

JrueGrit11 · Post #1414 » by **JrueGrit11** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 10:31 pm

For any of you who like Meyers Leonard... go and watch his "highlight reel"... it's him getting a few boards, blocking a few shots and making a few off balance passes. Never once did I see a jump shot, a hook shot, anything offensive. I saw him get muscled out of the post by 6'3" guards multiple times. Tyler Zeller, although I don't like him much, is 10x better than Meyers Leonard. I don't think people realize just how awful Meyers Leonard is. MAYBE in 5 years he becomes half of a Tyson Chandler. MAYBE. If we draft him I don't know how I will be able to watch that. Like Spencer Hawes wasn't bad enough. I almost think Rod Thorn continually says he likes him just to get more interest in him for an earlier pick and hope someone takes him and not say a Terrance Ross or Jones or even Henson.

skim8201 · Post #1415 » by **skim8201** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 10:31 pm

sixerfan1976 wrote:
PhilasFinest wrote:Tyler Zeller Future!!!

i'd take him over leonard or Sullinger. But I would take Terrence Jones before him.

sixer fan, dont you feel that terrence jones is essentially a stronger thad young? im not saying hes not talented but he doesnt fill a real big need.

manutesbowl · Post #1416 » by **manutesbowl** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 10:35 pm

I'm getting more and more discouraged the more I read in the lead up to this draft. I'm starting to become convinced all the major players come back, Lou is replaced with Crawford, Hawes is replaced by drafting Leonard, and that's the team.

There was also a segment on CSN tonight with Dei Lynam interviewing Iguodala where he basically seemed completely unconcerned about any trade rumors and went on to talk about how he had good conversations with Josh Harris about Harris teaching him business related stuff for his post career.

If Harris loves Iguodala, and everyone already knows Doug loves Iguodala, I'm starting to become skeptical they wouldn't rather trade Turner.

Mik317 · Post #1417 » by **Mik317** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 10:36 pm

Jones is a way better defender than Thad and bigger and longer (no homo). He is basically what we kinda hope Thad could be.

He can also legit start at PF...unlike Thad since he has a better jumper, handle and can not get sonned by Gibson and Bass.

I do agree if we take him maybe we should look to move Thad tho.

sixerfan1976 · Post #1418 » by **sixerfan1976** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 10:38 pm

i dont think they take leonard at all

i agree terrence jones isnt a great fit but they like him(i dont)

either turner or iguodala has to be traded. They have legit concerns about andre's achilles.

cksdayoff · Post #1419 » by **cksdayoff** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 10:39 pm

im liking terrence jones more and more.

Do the Jrue · Post #1420 » by **Do the Jrue** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 10:40 pm

Knux-Future wrote:Jones is a way better defender than Thad and bigger and longer (no homo). He is basically what we kinda hope Thad could be.

He can also legit start at PF...unlike Thad since he has a better jumper, handle and can not get sonned by Gibson and Bass.

I do agree if we take him maybe we should look to move Thad tho.

Agreed. Especially the point that Jones is basically what we hoped Thad would become.

skim8201 · Post #1421 » by **skim8201** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 10:40 pm

i agree. i have a bad feeling the sixers wil stay pat and choose not to make a splash. if this becomes reality then the sixers will be stuck in mediocrity. we need new blood on this roster. hopefully rod thorn wont mess up on his way out.

sixerfan1976 · Post #1422 » by **sixerfan1976** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 10:42 pm

i mean lets say they keep iguodala and grab sullinger or terrence jones or someone like that at 15 and trade turner to get ross at 11-12. that would be a great draft to me too.

Mik317 · Post #1423 » by **Mik317** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 10:45 pm

sixerfan1976 wrote:i mean lets say they keep iguodala and grab sullinger or terrence jones or someone like that at 15 and trade turner to get ross at 11-12. that would be a great draft to me too.

I wouldn't like the actual trades...

but I would be glad to see us actually do something for once.

(That would make us a crazy athletic team too....)

manutesbowl · Post #1424 » by **manutesbowl** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 10:49 pm

sixerfan1976 wrote:i mean lets say they keep iguodala and grab sullinger or terrence jones or someone like that at 15 and trade turner to get ross at 11-12. that would be a great draft to me too.

I could deal with that.

If they come out of this with two picks and get one out of Ross/Rivers/Lamb with one and one out of Jones/Jones III/Sullinger with the other, I can live with it.

I'd probably prefer Lamb (who they seem to have no interest in), then Ross, then Rivers (although I go back and forth on him). Definitely would rather have Jones III than any of the other bigs. Just take a chance on the talent and that they can maximize it. Lavoy Allen had similar motor questions and they seem to have figured it out. I would almost even consider keeping Brand for the extra year as kind of a mentor to Jones III.

Cru Thik · Post #1425 » by **Cru Thik** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 10:50 pm

Trading Turner for 11-12 would be horrible. Trade him for Barnes, Beal, or MKG someone like that if you are going to do it.

LarsV8 · Post #1426 » by **LarsV8** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 10:50 pm

Is your Hou/GS trade a theory or is that common knowledge in GM land?

sixerfan1976 · Post #1427 » by **sixerfan1976** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 10:51 pm

manutesbowl wrote:
sixerfan1976 wrote:i mean lets say they keep iguodala and grab sullinger or terrence jones or someone like that at 15 and trade turner to get ross at 11-12. that would be a great draft to me too.

I could deal with that.

If they come out of this with two picks and get one out of Ross/Rivers/Lamb with one and one out of Jones/Jones III/Sullinger with the other, I can live with it.

I'd probably prefer Lamb (who they seem to have no interest in), then Ross, then Rivers (although I go back and forth on him). Definitely would rather have Jones III than any of the other bigs. Just take a chance on the talent and that they can maximize it. Lavoy Allen had similar motor questions and they seem to have figured it out. I would almost even consider keeping Brand for the extra year as kind of a mentor to Jones III.

if you see sullinger picked(also david falk client)..you may see brand mentoring him. scary thought.

sixerfan1976 · Post #1428 » by **sixerfan1976** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 10:52 pm

Cru Thik wrote:Trading Turner for 11-12 would be horrible. Trade him for Barnes, Beal, or MKG someone like that if you are going to do it.

not saying turner isnt still talented. But he isnt valued like he was two years ago right now.

sixerfan1976 · Post #1429 » by **sixerfan1976** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 10:53 pm

LarsV8 wrote:Is your Hou/GS trade a theory or is that common knowledge in GM land?

the sixers are concerned about it interfering with a trade with GSW. put it that way. Houston could just go in another direction of course.

manutesbowl · Post #1430 » by **manutesbowl** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 10:55 pm

Cru Thik wrote:Trading Turner for 11-12 would be horrible. Trade him for Barnes, Beal, or MKG someone like that if you are going to do it.

He doesn't have enough value to get that, sadly.

He had a horrible rookie year, a so-so sophomore year, and a jekyll & hyde playoffs. I get the question a lot of people in the league don't see him as anything more than a rotation guy and some see him as a bust.