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Re: Game 4: Sixers (1-2) vs. Knicks (2-1) | Sun Apr 28 1:00 PM (EST) TV: ABC
Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 9:48 pm
by Sixercise
Its like Thibeadoux and Nurse switched roles today - Nurse overplaying the starters, Thibeadoux dealing with roster shuffling due to players being out....this franchise is truly cursed. Should we even give Morey another shot? That's where our lack of depth issues all point to....
Re: Game 4: Sixers (1-2) vs. Knicks (2-1) | Sun Apr 28 1:00 PM (EST) TV: ABC
Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 9:53 pm
by phillynative
brannigan73 wrote:Bum Adebayo wrote:I just think people don't want to stop believing in Embiid because he is the face of The Process. Admitting he is a fraud would automatically mean that The Process has been a failure, people cannot accept that. I think we should just move on though, it's ok to get it wrong sometimes, the most important thing is to learn from mistakes.
Fraud is way too harsh a word and I criticize Embiid all the time. My problem is we have blown so many chances to remake this roster in a way that will maximise his talents and we keep relying on him to be the main leader. Its feels like sometimes that maybe we wont ever be able to do that. We also dont use him correctly. He is a great offensive player but I dont know in this day and age you can win titles expecting a center to score 30 points every single game to win playoff series against quality teams. I want him to be more Jokic like. He improved his passing a lot this year. I feel like if this offseason doesnt play out as expected and we lose in the first two rounds again next season he will force his way out anyway whether we trade him or not. These guys want to win titles. As much as our frustration is about him sometimeI would imagine he is probably as unhappy about playing for this orginization as he has ever been. I would be.
The Sixers have done a really subpar job of building the correct pieces around him. This goes all the way back to failed draft choices and holding on to Ben for too long.Also I think its time for Embiid to take a step back on his usage, he's too injury prone and I don't care about scoring titles in the regular season. I don't think he's willing to just focus on being more rebound/defensive minded center that can score. But it's also not like he has had players next to him to surpass him as the #1 option.
Re: Game 4: Sixers (1-2) vs. Knicks (2-1) | Sun Apr 28 1:00 PM (EST) TV: ABC
Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 10:00 pm
by phillynative
Sixercise wrote:Its like Thibeadoux and Nurse switched roles today - Nurse overplaying the starters, Thibeadoux dealing with roster shuffling due to players being out....this franchise is truly cursed. Should we even give Morey another shot? That's where our lack of depth issues all point to....
I want Morey gone. Bring in someone who has followed this team and has a fresh take on what to do with the roster to build around Embiid and Maxey. We already know what Morey is going to do this offseason. Beg PG to sign , Beg Harden to forgive him and come back(lol) and than once those two things don't happen and everyone else of value has been signed to other teams. He will scramble to throw a team together and tell us how good the team is . I'm tired of him and Josh Hartis. Two frauds.
Re: Game 4: Sixers (1-2) vs. Knicks (2-1) | Sun Apr 28 1:00 PM (EST) TV: ABC
Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 10:32 pm
by Mik317
pulling a Ben Simmons and taking a break from this place lol
for my mental health or whats left of it
Re: Game 4: Sixers (1-2) vs. Knicks (2-1) | Sun Apr 28 1:00 PM (EST) TV: ABC
Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 10:39 pm
by ExplosionsInDaSky
Mik317 wrote:pulling a Ben Simmons and taking a break from this place lol
for my mental health or whats left of it
Same. I'll see you mutherphluckers draft night.
Re: Game 4: Sixers (1-2) vs. Knicks (2-1) | Sun Apr 28 1:00 PM (EST) TV: ABC
Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 10:41 pm
by Bum Adebayo
FireMorey wrote:The time to trade Embiid is over, you won't get equal value anymore. Time for the GM to do his job and actually put a good enough roster around him that can actually withstand injuries and doesn't fall apart.
You don't need equal value, with Embiid you have a certainity, every season he has an injury, in the case he doesn't have an injury, his stamina plain sucks, he sucks in 4th quarters. This dude is not made for playoffs and tough basketball. I don't care if we don't get equal value, we need to rebuild, are you telling me we won't get offered some decent picks for him? I call BS.
Re: Game 4: Sixers (1-2) vs. Knicks (2-1) | Sun Apr 28 1:00 PM (EST) TV: ABC
Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 10:47 pm
by youngcrev
I get that it's been bad with Embiid off the floor, but you can't play him that many minutes. You don't get enough out of him when he's gassed, particularly down the stretch.
Anyway, embarrassing effort of the glass when things mattered. They deserved to lose. I'll be cheering for the Knicks the rest of the way (after they finish this one out that is).
Re: Game 4: Sixers (1-2) vs. Knicks (2-1) | Sun Apr 28 1:00 PM (EST) TV: ABC
Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 11:25 pm
by FireMorey
Bum Adebayo wrote:FireMorey wrote:The time to trade Embiid is over, you won't get equal value anymore. Time for the GM to do his job and actually put a good enough roster around him that can actually withstand injuries and doesn't fall apart.
You don't need equal value, with Embiid you have a certainity, every season he has an injury, in the case he doesn't have an injury, his stamina plain sucks, he sucks in 4th quarters. This dude is not made for playoffs and tough basketball. I don't care if we don't get equal value, we need to rebuild, are you telling me we won't get offered some decent picks for him? I call BS.
They aren't rebuilding and people need to get over it. If they don't win a title with him and not trading him sooner lengthens the rebuild process, then it does. If people don't like it then take a few years off from watching basketball and come back when they're good again.
Re: Game 4: Sixers (1-2) vs. Knicks (2-1) | Sun Apr 28 1:00 PM (EST) TV: ABC
Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 11:33 pm
by SixthStreet
Well guys, we've made it!
You are all cordially invited to The Tobias Harris Farewell Game, Tuesday night at MSG. Light refreshments, including Crumbl Cookies, to be served.
Re: Game 4: Sixers (1-2) vs. Knicks (2-1) | Sun Apr 28 1:00 PM (EST) TV: ABC
Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 11:43 pm
by phillynative
phillynative wrote:OG and Hart combined for 31 mothertrucking rebounds.
The Knicks have the sixers figured out. They are more athletic , more grity and more physical and they know that because of that they will always have a chance.
But for the 1 NY fan that liked my comment. Just know that If Morey didn't have such a hard-on for the offseason and actually addressed the weaknesses this team had . The sixers would be up easily in the series.
We are heavily relying on players that are close to retiring and the roster is clearly under construction.
Re: Game 4: Sixers (1-2) vs. Knicks (2-1) | Sun Apr 28 1:00 PM (EST) TV: ABC
Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 11:47 pm
by TYO23
Maxey had an awful game. I don’t care what the stats say he was dreadful today.
Nurse was awful as well and I can’t forget the Bball Paul minutes. One of the only positives about losing this series is we get out of the Tobias and Reed contracts.
Morey needs to be on the hot seat as well
Re: Game 4: Sixers (1-2) vs. Knicks (2-1) | Sun Apr 28 1:00 PM (EST) TV: ABC
Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 11:47 pm
by Bum Adebayo
FireMorey wrote:Bum Adebayo wrote:FireMorey wrote:The time to trade Embiid is over, you won't get equal value anymore. Time for the GM to do his job and actually put a good enough roster around him that can actually withstand injuries and doesn't fall apart.
You don't need equal value, with Embiid you have a certainity, every season he has an injury, in the case he doesn't have an injury, his stamina plain sucks, he sucks in 4th quarters. This dude is not made for playoffs and tough basketball. I don't care if we don't get equal value, we need to rebuild, are you telling me we won't get offered some decent picks for him? I call BS.
They aren't rebuilding and people need to get over it. If they don't win a title with him and not trading him sooner lengthens the rebuild process, then it does. If people don't like it then take a few years off from watching basketball and come back when they're good again.
That's malpractice then, fans need to understand it's over, let it go and rebuild.
Re: Game 4: Sixers (1-2) vs. Knicks (2-1) | Sun Apr 28 1:00 PM (EST) TV: ABC
Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 11:48 pm
by phillynative
SixthStreet wrote:Well guys, we've made it!
You are all cordially invited to The Tobias Harris Farewell Game, Tuesday night at MSG. Light refreshments, including Crumbl Cookies, to be served.
It's going to be a huge relief. If only he could take his dad butt buddy with him( Brand).
Re: Game 4: Sixers (1-2) vs. Knicks (2-1) | Sun Apr 28 1:00 PM (EST) TV: ABC
Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2024 12:16 am
by mjkvol
TYO23 wrote:Maxey had an awful game. I don’t care what the stats say he was dreadful today.
Nurse was awful as well and I can’t forget the Bball Paul minutes. One of the only positives about losing this series is we get out of the Tobias and Reed contracts.
Nick had about his worst game since he's been here, just awful. Maxey looked flustered down the stretch, and missed a few wide open 3's at critical times. The 4th quarter was about as bad as any this season, and brought back nightmarish memories of Glenn.
Re: Game 4: Sixers (1-2) vs. Knicks (2-1) | Sun Apr 28 1:00 PM (EST) TV: ABC
Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2024 12:30 am
by Bum Adebayo
Maybe if the same keeps happening with 3 coaches, then it's not coach fault, but it's on the players? coach gets the blame for most things because it's a simple change to do, replace one coach with another and voila, we will improve so much!
Our 4th quarter collapses are a constant in the process era. Guess what player has been a constant all these years? exactly.
Re: Game 4: Sixers (1-2) vs. Knicks (2-1) | Sun Apr 28 1:00 PM (EST) TV: ABC
Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2024 12:31 am
by Embiid P
phillynative wrote:SixthStreet wrote:Well guys, we've made it!
You are all cordially invited to The Tobias Harris Farewell Game, Tuesday night at MSG. Light refreshments, including Crumbl Cookies, to be served.
It's going to be a huge relief. If only he could take his dad butt buddy with him( Brand).
Agreed 100%. I'd like to see how we do with Harris's albatross no longer killing our cap space and roster flexibility before I jump on the "trade Embiid" bandwagon.
Re: Game 4: Sixers (1-2) vs. Knicks (2-1) | Sun Apr 28 1:00 PM (EST) TV: ABC
Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2024 1:45 am
by FireMorey
People say the same thing every year. Time to trade Embiid and then come November you'll be gushing about how amazing he is. Trading him is a non-starter and completely illogical, but if you're going to have that energy then keep that energy.
Re: Game 4: Sixers (1-2) vs. Knicks (2-1) | Sun Apr 28 1:00 PM (EST) TV: ABC
Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2024 1:59 am
by Dave_R
I'm a Knicks fan coming in peace. I've been watching hoop for a long time (63 years old).
Here's what I see to be the problem Philly has: Philly has nobody to do the dirty work. Lowry can a little bit but, at this point, he's too old (and also too small). They need a gritty/dirty work player or two. If they don't get that type of player, they cannot win. Remember, the last time Philly won, they had Iavaroni, Bobby Jones, and Clemon Johnson to do the dirty work.
Re: Game 4: Sixers (1-2) vs. Knicks (2-1) | Sun Apr 28 1:00 PM (EST) TV: ABC
Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2024 2:08 am
by 76ciology
It's easy to suggest getting rid of Tobias, but the hard part is finding a suitable replacement.
I feel bad for Morey and Nurse; I think both of them did a really good job. It's just incredibly challenging to win with Embiid and his condition. It reminds me of the Rockets and Yao Ming back then.
Re: Game 4: Sixers (1-2) vs. Knicks (2-1) | Sun Apr 28 1:00 PM (EST) TV: ABC
Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2024 2:16 am
by Embiid P
Bum Adebayo wrote:Maybe if the same keeps happening with 3 coaches, then it's not coach fault, but it's on the players? coach gets the blame for most things because it's a simple change to do, replace one coach with another and voila, we will improve so much!
Our 4th quarter collapses are a constant in the process era. Guess what player has been a constant all these years? exactly.
Technically Harris has been a part of them too minus Embiid's first playoff series vs. Boston which is hard to blame Embiid alone for given who else was on the roster at the time. Not saying that Embiid hasn't played poorly at times during that stretch but personally I'd like to see how we do with Harris's albatross finally off the books before I look to trade Embiid.