Official College Basketball / 2012 NBA Draft Thread

[Negrodamus]

If we had the same front office as the past couple of years, I can already tell you who we would select at 15...

We'd take Perry Jones III if he fell to us, or we would take Quincy Miller.

I say this because we love to take young players that were highly touted out of high school and came out early after an OK freshman year (see: Thaddeus Young and Jrue Holiday off the top of my head)

Watch some highlights of Quincy Miller from back in HS. If he was allowed to come out his senior year and he didnt blow out his knee, he would be a top 10 pick no question.

[KrazySixersD]

nice on the mock... id be perfectly happy with perry at 15...

still would prefer drummond... but perry has so much potential at SF in the nba.. i like miller too.. wonder if we could use our two seconds to move up in the late first

[KrazySixersD]

u know what... ive been comparing perry jones a bit to rashard lewis... but with better handle and worse 3 point shooting...

but what about this as a comparison if perry does stick at PF..... lamarcus aldridge??

both are about the same size and length off the top of my head, athletic... lamarcus is a bit softer in the post, but has gotten tougher, and has a great mid range J... perry has a good post game as well... could he be a lamarcus aldridge type with a better handle?

[KrazySixersD]

just looked them up... same exact height coming out... same exact weight down the exact pound... aldridge has a 3 inch bigger wingspan and higher reach, but perry jones has a much better vertical and 1 step vertical, as well as much faster in the agility and lane sprints, and did more bench reps

in other words, same exact height same exact weight... perry is a bit less long, but much much more athletic... which goes with what i was saying..

im wondering if he can be an aldridge type with the ability to take PF's off the dribble

man i want this guy... a guy like collins might be a good tough coach to keep him from not giving 100%... tho he could hate him too lol

[Kobblehead]

u know what... ive been comparing perry jones a bit to rashard lewis... but with better handle and worse 3 point shooting...

but what about this as a comparison if perry does stick at PF..... lamarcus aldridge??

both are about the same size and length off the top of my head, athletic... lamarcus is a bit softer in the post, but has gotten tougher, and has a great mid range J... perry has a good post game as well... could he be a lamarcus aldridge type with a better handle?

I wouldn't say LMA is softer in the post than Perry. Perry is so soft that he was shooting turnawayfades in the combine post drills. I'm not too sure about that comparison. I don't think Perry Jones will ever be the shooter LMA is. I don't even think he's shown flashes of it. That's why I don't like the Rashard comparison either.

[KrazySixersD]

u know what... ive been comparing perry jones a bit to rashard lewis... but with better handle and worse 3 point shooting...

but what about this as a comparison if perry does stick at PF..... lamarcus aldridge??

both are about the same size and length off the top of my head, athletic... lamarcus is a bit softer in the post, but has gotten tougher, and has a great mid range J... perry has a good post game as well... could he be a lamarcus aldridge type with a better handle?

I wouldn't say LMA is softer in the post than Perry. Perry is so soft that he was shooting turnawayfades in the combine post drills. I'm not too sure about that comparison. I don't think Perry Jones will ever be the shooter LMA is. I don't even think he's shown flashes of it. That's why I don't like the Rashard comparison either.

i didnt say LMA was softer than perry... i meant that LMA was soft when he came into the league, and has since done a better job at being tougher in the post

which is what i think perry could do...

LMA was not the jumpshooter he is now when he came into the league either... sure he had a shot like perry does, but not like it is now.. its about projecting what they can do

[76ciology]

How about comparing Moultrie and Perry Jones? Both guys almost have the similar length and athletic testing results. Like I said, Moultrie looks like the safer and PF version of Perry Jones. I'm starting to love Moultrie at 15th and would be my no.1 choice if Meyers is picked by the Bucks then Jones is picked by the Suns or Rox.

[KrazySixersD]

cuz this team needs a star and perry has the biggest star potential of just about anyone outside the top few picks

[Kobblehead]

Perry Jones will never be anywhere near the shooter LMA is. And I don't think he'll ever develop a similar high post game either. He wants to be a face-up player. Perry is alot more athletic and skilled as a ball handler, but he has nowhere near the offensive skillset that LMA had coming out of college. They're just not similar players at all other than body.

[Arsenal]

terrence boss - a need, at #15, very athletic and can shoot the 3 ball

Why is terrence ross a need? Are we going to trade Turner to make room for him? I don't think ET nor Ross will be successful at SF.

I like the other guys on your list. But I don't like drafting Rivers nor Ross. They are not good enough to replace ET.

I really don't understand what you ET lovers see in him. He's not athletic enough to ever be a star player. I've NEVER seen anyone get rejected and abused as often as he does when he drives to the basket. If they think Terrance Ross can play, I'm all for trading Evan Turner to either get him or to open a spot for him and get another asset. Ross' skillset is a much better fit at SG between Holiday and Iguodala because he can shoot and is more athletic. He's a real SG, not a PG (in a SG's body) like Turner who is woefully ineffective without the ball in his hands.

[Kobblehead]

Terrence Ross is the most over-appreciated player in the first round in my opinion. Especially on this board.

[Arsenal]

Terrence Ross is the most over-appreciated player in the first round in my opinion. Especially on this board.

Just like Evan Turner is the most over-appreciated player on the Sixers roster. Especially on this board.

[Kobblehead]

Terrence Ross is the most over-appreciated player in the first round in my opinion. Especially on this board.

Just like Evan Turner is the most over-appreciated player on the Sixers roster. Expecially on this board.

Not at all, kid, stop reaching. People appreciate Evan's elite rebounding, solid defense, and competitive fire. He's also criticized for every single one of his weaknesses.

[Winejk]

I'm ok with taking a SG at #15 whether it be Ross, Rivers or Lamb (that's my preference in order). With two second round picks (whether they use them or package them to move up), Philly could go after a big man like Plumlee whose physical measurements are very good. Would Plumlee be an offensive juggernaught? Probably not. But with his athleticism, he could be a big guy that plays good D, does the dirty work and is a presence in the paint.

[76ciology]

terrence boss - a need, at #15, very athletic and can shoot the 3 ball

Why is terrence ross a need? Are we going to trade Turner to make room for him? I don't think ET nor Ross will be successful at SF.

I like the other guys on your list. But I don't like drafting Rivers nor Ross. They are not good enough to replace ET.

I really don't understand what you ET lovers see in him. He's not athletic enough to ever be a star player. I've NEVER seen anyone get rejected and abused as often as he does when he drives to the basket. If they think Terrance Ross can play, I'm all for trading Evan Turner to either get him or to open a spot for him and get another asset. Ross' skillset is a much better fit at SG between Holiday and Iguodala because he can shoot and is more athletic. He's a real SG, not a PG (in a SG's body) like Turner who is woefully ineffective without the ball in his hands.

Turner might not look like a star right now. But I won't give up Turner for another SG who looks nothing more than a rotational player. If you want Ross because of his perimeter shooting (a key component of being a good fit with Iggy and Jrue), then why go all the trouble and trade ET when you can just re- sign Jodie Meeks?

If I have the 15th pick, I'd definitely choose guys like Henson, Leonard, Perry Jones or Moultrie over Ross. First, these guys got higher ceiling than Ross. Second, because of team needs.