Fantasy Trade Thread

[SJSF]

NO thank you to Harden and Boozer. I want to see Harden as the man by himself and not playing next to Durant and Westbrook before you hand him a max contract.

Also Boozer is a small jumpshooting PF. No thanks. I would take Josh SMith over him anyday.

[83SixersRocked]

The more I see Harden, the less i want him. He just doesn't seem to care about D. To say he plays matador defense would in some cases be overstating his effort.

[Hardcore6erFan]

Spencer Hawes, Thad Young, and Moultrie for Bargnani and Aaron Gray.

[sixers hoops]

I may be wrong, and the salary cap rules may have changed, but if the 76ers were hypnotize those teams into accepting those trades for Rudy Gay and Josh Smith, they would be in position to offer a MAX deal to James Harden. If those trades were done, the 76ers would only have about 20 million in salaries against the cap for next off season. Dru 4mil, K brown 3 mil, Richardson 6mil, L allen 3million. That's it. Bynum is an unrestricted F/agent. I believe Josh Smith is unrestricted.
The 76ers could offer a max deal, (maybe two) to anyone in the league, then still resign Josh Smith and Bynum because they own their "Bird" rights. That's how Miami was able to retain Wade, while signing Bosh and Lebron.

Do you know what a caphold is? While you're signing other free-agents, your own free-agents count against your cap for an amount know as their "caphold."

In Miami's situation, Wade had a caphold and counted against the Heat's capspace. They signed Wade for about 16 million, and then still had about another 34 million or so to split between Bosh and Lebron.

Next summer, Bynum will count against our cap for about 17 million or so until they renounce him, sign him, or he signs elsewhere, etc. Some people are under the impression that he counts as $0 while they go out and sign other people. That loophole isn't available.

[Iscull]

Luke Ridnour for Thad Young anyone? Minny is looking to deal a guard.

[Foshan]

Doesn't really work money wise... and Thad would be battling AK47/DWill/Love for minutes at the 4 spot. Now if DWill could play full time SF... and AK did too... still, I think its hard to see him getting minutes there for how much he's paid.

OR he does get minutes over DWill (possible), which puts the #2 pick's value even more in the toilet.

[Chamberlainship]

Plus it's not a good trade talent-wise for the sixers. Thad is better than Ridnour, and thad seems to be an excellent character guy/teammate.

This summer kind of reminds me of the summer we got Brand. I wasn't interested in fantasy trade offers then because I wanted to see how Brand would fit into an already solid team. Of course, two weeks into the season when the team looked awful, the interest in fantasy trades came back with a vengeance. Hopefully, this year we're discussing tweaks, not "what can we get for Bynum."

[LongLiveIverson]

Let me first say that I am all aboard the get Harden to Philly bandwagon. But you have to think from OKC's perspective. If you think they are letting him hit free agency without getting value you are nuts. Sam Presti is the best in the business for a reason. Getting another starting guard in return isn't going to help improve their chances of winning a title or beating Miami. Their biggest problem in the finals..Kendrick Perkins and their lack of post scoring.

They can actually keep him at MARKET value (13-15mill) if they make the right moves. Amnestying Perkins, sacrificing either Nick Collison or Sefolosha at the deadline for an expiring contract. With Cook, Hayward, Maynor, Aldrich, Jackson all coming off the books they will have roughly 64million dedicated to salary with Durant, Westbrook, Collison/orSefolosha Ibaka, Thabeet, Perry Jones, counting Hardens Max deal. 70 million is the luxary limit so you figure 5-6million to spend for a new starting center, backup point, backup sg (assuming you deal thabo) and 2 reserves. Cheap but doable. 2 draft picks will figure for barely 1.5million, 2 scrub reserves will cost no more than 1.8 and a half decent FA can be had for 2mill.

IF they choose another route, I'll personally guarantee he gets traded to Phoenix. It's clear they are trying to find a face of the franchise ie Eric Gordon fail. Harden has been on record saying how he would like to play closer to home (az) so it would be reasonable to think he would resign. Trading Harden (5mill) straight up for Marcin Gortat (7mill) works financially. OKC gets one of the best value players in the league in Gortat..a quiet 15ppg, 10reb 1.5block player and a guy who they can rely on to score down low to compliment Ibaka and Collison. Makes it easy to amnesty Perkins.

I am completely unsure of Turner as a top 3 player on a team. Some days he looks like a decent bench option, other times he flashes playmaking that reminded me of his OSU days. IF..and If he doesn't prove to be that guy mid season I think you have to swing him for an upgrade not named Harden.

Tyreke Evans would be an option for a straight up trade. With Jimmer, Marcus Thornton, Tyreke and newly acquired Aaron Brooks there will be no shots to go around for Thomas Robinson and DMC. You can bet they will make a move. Turner would fit perfect there next to Thornton and Jimmer. Tyreke gives us a hometown potential all star. You can't discount his talent, but I really don't know if he will ever play winning basketball.

BEST BET Eric Gordon - Eligible to be traded after December. Turner would fit in great next to shoot first guard Austin Rivers. Could be the best value they get for Gordon, assuming Turner shows some production. A combo of Turner and another player would work.
N.O has Ant Davis and Ryan Anderson at the 4 so Dorrell Wright might be more appealing than a Thad Young.

Sixers - Turner, Dorrell Wright for Eric Gordon

Than what was said earlier swing a trade for a lockdown defender in Danny Green
Thad Young, Nick Young (14mill) for Danny Green, Stephen Jackson and Corey Joseph (14.5mill)
Spurs get there bread and butter in an extremely versatile bench stud who can thrive next to Duncan and Spliiter. Nick Young gives them a 3pt shooting threat to backup Manu. Losing Green doesn't really hurt as they already have Kawai Leonard who's going to be a stud. Corey Joseph has some potential but wont see the floor behind Parker, Gary Neal and Patty Mills.

C. Bynum - Star Post scorer
F. Hawes - Stretch floor, passing
F. Green - Lockdown defender
G. Gordon - Go to scorer
G. Jrue - Playmaker

C. Kwame - Big Body
F. Lavoy - Post defense
F. Richardson - 3pt shooting
G. S.Jack - Toughness, defense
G. R.Ivey - Perimiter D
Moultrie/Joseph - Prospects

This is an extremely well rounded team with 2 All star caliber players. And solid complimentary players (Hawes, Green, Lavoy, Jrue). Jackson and Green provide defense at the 3 spot to help slow down guys like Melo, Pierce and Lebron in the East.

[SparksFly87]

Eric Gordan is a absolute perfect fit at 2guard. Turner and Thad for Eric Gordon and Ryan Anderson??

[Jruggie]

Let me first say that I am all aboard the get Harden to Philly bandwagon. But you have to think from OKC's perspective. If you think they are letting him hit free agency without getting value you are nuts. Sam Presti is the best in the business for a reason. Getting another starting guard in return isn't going to help improve their chances of winning a title or beating Miami. Their biggest problem in the finals..Kendrick Perkins and their lack of post scoring.

They can actually keep him at MARKET value (13-15mill) if they make the right moves. Amnestying Perkins, sacrificing either Nick Collison or Sefolosha at the deadline for an expiring contract. With Cook, Hayward, Maynor, Aldrich, Jackson all coming off the books they will have roughly 64million dedicated to salary with Durant, Westbrook, Collison/orSefolosha Ibaka, Thabeet, Perry Jones, counting Hardens Max deal. 70 million is the luxary limit so you figure 5-6million to spend for a new starting center, backup point, backup sg (assuming you deal thabo) and 2 reserves. Cheap but doable. 2 draft picks will figure for barely 1.5million, 2 scrub reserves will cost no more than 1.8 and a half decent FA can be had for 2mill.

IF they choose another route, I'll personally guarantee he gets traded to Phoenix. It's clear they are trying to find a face of the franchise ie Eric Gordon fail. Harden has been on record saying how he would like to play closer to home (az) so it would be reasonable to think he would resign. Trading Harden (5mill) straight up for Marcin Gortat (7mill) works financially. OKC gets one of the best value players in the league in Gortat..a quiet 15ppg, 10reb 1.5block player and a guy who they can rely on to score down low to compliment Ibaka and Collison. Makes it easy to amnesty Perkins.

I am completely unsure of Turner as a top 3 player on a team. Some days he looks like a decent bench option, other times he flashes playmaking that reminded me of his OSU days. IF..and If he doesn't prove to be that guy mid season I think you have to swing him for an upgrade not named Harden.

Tyreke Evans would be an option for a straight up trade. With Jimmer, Marcus Thornton, Tyreke and newly acquired Aaron Brooks there will be no shots to go around for Thomas Robinson and DMC. You can bet they will make a move. Turner would fit perfect there next to Thornton and Jimmer. Tyreke gives us a hometown potential all star. You can't discount his talent, but I really don't know if he will ever play winning basketball.

BEST BET Eric Gordon - Eligible to be traded after December. Turner would fit in great next to shoot first guard Austin Rivers. Could be the best value they get for Gordon, assuming Turner shows some production. A combo of Turner and another player would work.
N.O has Ant Davis and Ryan Anderson at the 4 so Dorrell Wright might be more appealing than a Thad Young.

Sixers - Turner, Dorrell Wright for Eric Gordon

Than what was said earlier swing a trade for a lockdown defender in Danny Green
Thad Young, Nick Young (14mill) for Danny Green, Stephen Jackson and Corey Joseph (14.5mill)
Spurs get there bread and butter in an extremely versatile bench stud who can thrive next to Duncan and Spliiter. Nick Young gives them a 3pt shooting threat to backup Manu. Losing Green doesn't really hurt as they already have Kawai Leonard who's going to be a stud. Corey Joseph has some potential but wont see the floor behind Parker, Gary Neal and Patty Mills.

C. Bynum - Star Post scorer
F. Hawes - Stretch floor, passing
F. Green - Lockdown defender
G. Gordon - Go to scorer
G. Jrue - Playmaker

C. Kwame - Big Body
F. Lavoy - Post defense
F. Richardson - 3pt shooting
G. S.Jack - Toughness, defense
G. R.Ivey - Perimiter D
Moultrie/Joseph - Prospects

This is an extremely well rounded team with 2 All star caliber players. And solid complimentary players (Hawes, Green, Lavoy, Jrue). Jackson and Green provide defense at the 3 spot to help slow down guys like Melo, Pierce and Lebron in the East.

Did I miss something? Why would N.O. want to trade Gordon. A player who they just matched an offer sheet to retain. They are really looking to build with him. But if they did for some reason want to trade him, Why for Evan Turner. I think ET has potential, but he presents no type of value match with Gordon yet even with a throw in of Wright.

[51X3RF4N]

Not to be nit-picky, but Austin Rivers really isn't a shoot first guard at all. His number one move, and the thing he does best, is drive to the basket. He has a quick first step and uses it all the time to drive into the lane and make a play. Don't get me wrong, he shoots a lot of outside shots too. But if he has a preference, it is certainly to use his "signature" move, the one that won him a state championship, and drive to the hole.

He wouldn't fit well next to Turner IMO. They both need the rock to be effective.

[LongLiveIverson]

What do you think about Milsap as an addition. Jazz fans would openly accept him straight up for Thad. So maybe Thad and a filler? Milsap doesn't want to be regulated to the bench, but the Jazz have Favors and Kanter waiting in the wings. With Al Jeff and Favors providing the perfect offense/defense combo, Thad would fit in perfect as an energy forward off the bench, allowing Kanter to log in mins at the C and F.

Now from the Sixers end do we Need Milsap? Looking back at former teams with great centers, Olajuwon, Ewing, Howard, Shaq..most had a role player alongside of them whether it was Anthony Mason, Udonis Haslim, Horace Grant, ect. With the exception of David Robinson. Will Milsap take too many touches away from Bynum? Will we be fine with a Hawes/Lavoy offense/defense combo. Or can Milsap be the perfect fit for 15ppg and a solid mid range jumper to compliment him in the post?

[youngcrev]

Not to be nit-picky, but Austin Rivers really isn't a shoot first guard at all. His number one move, and the thing he does best, is drive to the basket. He has a quick first step and uses it all the time to drive into the lane and make a play. Don't get me wrong, he shoots a lot of outside shots too. But if he has a preference, it is certainly to use his "signature" move, the one that won him a state championship, and drive to the hole.

He wouldn't fit well next to Turner IMO. They both need the rock to be effective.

I assumed "shoot-first" was meant as a guy with a scorers mentality as opposed to a "pass-first" guard, rather than a jump shooter.

[oyoyer]

What do you think about Milsap as an addition. Jazz fans would openly accept him straight up for Thad. So maybe Thad and a filler? Milsap doesn't want to be regulated to the bench, but the Jazz have Favors and Kanter waiting in the wings. With Al Jeff and Favors providing the perfect offense/defense combo, Thad would fit in perfect as an energy forward off the bench, allowing Kanter to log in mins at the C and F.

Now from the Sixers end do we Need Milsap? Looking back at former teams with great centers, Olajuwon, Ewing, Howard, Shaq..most had a role player alongside of them whether it was Anthony Mason, Udonis Haslim, Horace Grant, ect. With the exception of David Robinson. Will Milsap take too many touches away from Bynum? Will we be fine with a Hawes/Lavoy offense/defense combo. Or can Milsap be the perfect fit for 15ppg and a solid mid range jumper to compliment him in the post?

I have never seen a thad for millsap trade proposed, and i have certainly never seen their picky fans accept it. if that trade could be done though, you have to do it immediately; if only for the extra cap room in the summer.

[SparksFly87]

Evan Turner and Thaddues Young for rudy gay. Our team is loaded with bigs and Holiday is our main ballhandler.

We could really benefit from a big time scorer like Rudy Gay at the smallforward spot. A long defender as well.




Jrue/ Wayns /ivey
Richardson/ Young
Gay/ Wright
HAwes/ Moultrie/
Bynum/ Allen/ Brown

A really deep team with no weaknesses.