2014-2015 College Basketball / '15 NBA Draft Thread

Wilfried · Post #221 » by **Wilfried** » Thu Aug 14, 2014 12:44 pm

Still (at least) 2 more to come.

And then we go 'all-in' 8-)

51X3RF4N · Post #222 » by **51X3RF4N** » Thu Aug 14, 2014 7:25 pm

LeonJordanJr24 wrote:Draft next year the best 2 guard avail and keep in moving... Mario Heronja

Embiid/Sims/ Varnado
Noel/ Saric int / Grant
Bennett/ Mcdaniels
Heronja int/ Thompson / McRae
MCW/ Wroton / Pierre Jackson / Milic int

No.

It's Hezonja, not Heronja. Bennett is not a SF full time. Sims is hopefully not the backup C. Grant shouldn't be playing PF with such a weak frame. Thompson shouldn't be the first SG off the bench. And you don't draft Hezonja over Towns/Okafor/Stanley Johnson, unless the boards move quite a bit from now until draft day.

76ciology · Post #223 » by **76ciology** » Sun Aug 17, 2014 4:21 pm

Nothing to do. I'm doing my research and found this..

Asked to compare Noel and Davis, Calipari said, ''They're just different. Anthony had more guard skills than Nerlens would have. Their shot blocking is about the same. Nerlens is more of a four/five, where Anthony could play some three. Nerlens could guard a three, but he's not going to play that position. Anthony, if he had to, could play the three.''

Do you think he can? Seems like he can, on paper. Because if he can, we may opt to draft Towns in 2015.

Defensively..
MCW
McDaniels
Noel
Towns
Biid

On offense..

Biid at the post, Noel at high post for entry pass and his developing sweet spot at mid range..

MCW, McDaniels and Towns at perimeter (not very good right now but I think they can be very good shooters)

MRxBLACK · Post #224 » by **MRxBLACK** » Sun Aug 17, 2014 10:33 pm

I wouldn't want Noel on the perimeter guarding 3s. He should be in the paint as much as possible so he can fully use his unreal shot blocking/altering ability.

No-Man · Post #225 » by **No-Man** » Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:16 pm

76ciology wrote:Nothing to do. I'm doing my research and found this..

Asked to compare Noel and Davis, Calipari said, ''They're just different. Anthony had more guard skills than Nerlens would have. Their shot blocking is about the same. Nerlens is more of a four/five, where Anthony could play some three. Nerlens could guard a three, but he's not going to play that position. Anthony, if he had to, could play the three.''

Do you think he can? Seems like he can, on paper. Because if he can, we may opt to draft Towns in 2015.

Defensively..
MCW
McDaniels
Noel
Towns
Biid

On offense..

Biid at the post, Noel at high post for entry pass and his developing sweet spot at mid range..

MCW, McDaniels and Towns at perimeter (not very good right now but I think they can be very good shooters)

Man, you seriously need to abandon that idea because is absolutely terrible.

Da Doctor · Post #226 » by **Da Doctor** » Wed Aug 20, 2014 3:53 pm

76ciology wrote:Nothing to do. I'm doing my research and found this..

Asked to compare Noel and Davis, Calipari said, ''They're just different. Anthony had more guard skills than Nerlens would have. Their shot blocking is about the same. Nerlens is more of a four/five, where Anthony could play some three. Nerlens could guard a three, but he's not going to play that position. Anthony, if he had to, could play the three.''

Do you think he can? Seems like he can, on paper. Because if he can, we may opt to draft Towns in 2015.

Defensively..
MCW
McDaniels
Noel
Towns
Biid

On offense..

Biid at the post, Noel at high post for entry pass and his developing sweet spot at mid range..

MCW, McDaniels and Towns at perimeter (not very good right now but I think they can be very good shooters)

No. You're going to have to draft/sign a shooter eventually, and hoping mediocre ones become good ones is an unnecessary risk.

Xepa777 · Post #227 » by **Xepa777** » Thu Aug 21, 2014 7:17 am

51X3RF4N wrote:
LeonJordanJr24 wrote:Draft next year the best 2 guard avail and keep in moving... Mario Heronja

Embiid/Sims/ Varnado
Noel/ Saric int / Grant
Bennett/ Mcdaniels
Heronja int/ Thompson / McRae
MCW/ Wroton / Pierre Jackson / Milic int

No.

It's Hezonja, not Heronja. Bennett is not a SF full time. Sims is hopefully not the backup C. Grant shouldn't be playing PF with such a weak frame. Thompson shouldn't be the first SG off the bench. And you don't draft Hezonja over Towns/Okafor/Stanley Johnson, unless the boards move quite a bit from now until draft day.

I would take Hezonja over anyone in this year's class except Okafor (and Towns if he can play SF like a Durant). Stanley Johnson is overrated; I've seen nothing from him physically or skill set wise that makes you say "wow." He just has state championships and is going to play for a high profile team. You watch Hezonja play and with the court vision of a guard, the physical profile to be a manchild, and the fire inside, and it's clear that he has the most upside.

Mr Sixer · Post #228 » by **Mr Sixer** » Thu Aug 21, 2014 7:59 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s97sRoz-xag

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnIA8NX_T28

both vids by the same youtube user. Both are Hezonja highlights.

I'm hoping for a number 1 pick trade down ransom for him

snoopdogg88 · Post #229 » by **snoopdogg88** » Sat Aug 23, 2014 7:41 pm

it's so early to even speculate who is going to be a top 5 pick in next year's draft.
there aren't the obvious answers like they were last year with Wiggins, Parker, Smart.

For all we know, Aaron Harrison and Justin Jackson are in the top 5 in 2015.

ColdBlooded · Post #230 » by **ColdBlooded** » Mon Aug 25, 2014 3:59 am

I like what Hinkie is building, im actually rooting for his whole plan to succeed.

Towns is my favorite prospect in this draft. Made it known before the Bahamas trip and he just made me like him even more after the 6 games over there.

Best offensive skillset in this class. His defense is still a work in progress, he was a borderline below average defender in the Bahamas.

One thing i feel that needs to be made clear, he can not play the 3. On offense or defense. He doesn't have the foot speed and lateral quicks to defend the perimeter. Putting him at the 3 on offense will just make him build bad habits with his shot selection.

Mr Sixer · Post #231 » by **Mr Sixer** » Mon Aug 25, 2014 9:16 am

ColdBlooded wrote:I like what Hinkie is building, im actually rooting for his whole plan to succeed.

Towns is my favorite prospect in this draft. Made it known before the Bahamas trip and he just made me like him even more after the 6 games over there.

Best offensive skillset in this class. His defense is still a work in progress, he was a borderline below average defender in the Bahamas.

One thing i feel that needs to be made clear, he can not play the 3. On offense or defense. He doesn't have the foot speed and lateral quicks to defend the perimeter. Putting him at the 3 on offense will just make him build bad habits with his shot selection.

I'm not down for the towns experiment either, but the idea is that nerlens would play the 3 defensively since he does have the quickness and towns would play the 3 offensively, which he very well may not have the quickness to do either.

ColdBlooded · Post #232 » by **ColdBlooded** » Mon Aug 25, 2014 3:05 pm

Mr Sixer wrote:
ColdBlooded wrote:I like what Hinkie is building, im actually rooting for his whole plan to succeed.

Towns is my favorite prospect in this draft. Made it known before the Bahamas trip and he just made me like him even more after the 6 games over there.

Best offensive skillset in this class. His defense is still a work in progress, he was a borderline below average defender in the Bahamas.

One thing i feel that needs to be made clear, he can not play the 3. On offense or defense. He doesn't have the foot speed and lateral quicks to defend the perimeter. Putting him at the 3 on offense will just make him build bad habits with his shot selection.

I'm not down for the towns experiment either, but the idea is that nerlens would play the 3 defensively since he does have the quickness and towns would play the 3 offensively, which he very well may not have the quickness to do either.

He doesn't. Putting him on the perimeter will just ruin his development.

Agnostifarian · Post #233 » by **Agnostifarian** » Mon Aug 25, 2014 6:22 pm

I just watched my first Thon Maker video. He'd fit in nicely with MCW, Hezonia, Maker, Noel, Embiid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDZaJFd4aSk

51X3RF4N · Post #234 » by **51X3RF4N** » Mon Aug 25, 2014 6:28 pm

Mr Sixer wrote:
ColdBlooded wrote:I like what Hinkie is building, im actually rooting for his whole plan to succeed.

Towns is my favorite prospect in this draft. Made it known before the Bahamas trip and he just made me like him even more after the 6 games over there.

Best offensive skillset in this class. His defense is still a work in progress, he was a borderline below average defender in the Bahamas.

One thing i feel that needs to be made clear, he can not play the 3. On offense or defense. He doesn't have the foot speed and lateral quicks to defend the perimeter. Putting him at the 3 on offense will just make him build bad habits with his shot selection.

I'm not down for the towns experiment either, but the idea is that nerlens would play the 3 defensively since he does have the quickness and towns would play the 3 offensively, which he very well may not have the quickness to do either.

The idea of drafting Towns would certainly not be to put Nerlens or Towns at SF for any stretch of time. If Towns were to be drafted, IMO you would see either Towns or Nerlens coming off the bench, and they would split time at PF depending on matchups, etc. Saric would end up on the trading block likely. I personally don't think Saric is suited for the SF spot either.

But Towns/Embiid/Nerlens as a 3 man big rotation is pretty sick....

Hardcore6erFan · Post #235 » by **Hardcore6erFan** » Mon Aug 25, 2014 6:42 pm

Sixers 2015-16 roster
MCW/Tyus Jones
Klay Thompson/McDaniels
Kawhi Leonard/Hollis
Noel/Okafor
Embiid/Okafor

8-)

51X3RF4N · Post #236 » by **51X3RF4N** » Mon Aug 25, 2014 6:47 pm

Thon Maker needs to add some muscle to that frame, and continue to work on his jumper. He could be the next KD.

ColdBlooded · Post #237 » by **ColdBlooded** » Mon Aug 25, 2014 9:39 pm

51X3RF4N wrote:Thon Maker needs to add some muscle to that frame, and continue to work on his jumper. He could be the next KD.

Lol No, he can't.

Thon should focus on becoming a stretch four/five.Add some weight and get more comfortable with his back to the basket.

Wilfried · Post #238 » by **Wilfried** » Tue Aug 26, 2014 9:54 am

Hardcore6erFan wrote:Sixers 2015-16 roster
MCW/Tyus Jones
Klay Thompson/McDaniels
Kawhi Leonard/Hollis
Noel/Okafor
Embiid/Okafor

Leonard is a stretch, he won't leave SA I think. Although, after Duncan and Ginobili retire, he maybe want to leave too. But I think he's the face of their rebuilding.

Thompson I think is a player Hinkie is going to go all in for. Question is, are we the only team and is GS going to match?

ColdBlooded · Post #239 » by **ColdBlooded** » Tue Aug 26, 2014 5:26 pm

Wilfried wrote:
Hardcore6erFan wrote:Sixers 2015-16 roster
MCW/Tyus Jones
Klay Thompson/McDaniels
Kawhi Leonard/Hollis
Noel/Okafor
Embiid/Okafor

Thompson I think is a player Hinkie is going to go all in for. Question is, are we the only team and is GS going to match?

GS refused to include him in a Love trade. That right there shows how high they value him.

I think its a lock that they will match any offer and will retain him for the future. He's not going anywhere.

snoopdogg88 · Post #240 » by **snoopdogg88** » Tue Aug 26, 2014 6:50 pm

Someone convince me Cliff Alexander isn't Thomas Robinson part 2