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Re: Tom Moore 3.0

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 12:31 am
by tmoore
Foshan wrote:Hey Tom, any chance we give McClinton a camp invite? While 'the last thing we need is another small guard'... he can really light it up from outside, and really he could play (someday) next to a big PG in Jrue without us giving up to much defensively.


Haven't heard anything about him. Camp roster could be officially announced as soon as Friday.

Re: Tom Moore 3.0

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 12:40 am
by tmoore
Jordan on what he likes most about the Princeton offense: “Because it reminds us about how basketball is supposed to be played. It’s a five-man team. It got to a point in the early ’90s that the NBA was a stagnant, 1-on-1, isolation (game with) three guys on one side and you have one guy go to work and the defense had to stand outside the lane. … When (former Princeton coach Pete) Carril said this is not Princeton’s offense — this is the Celtics offense of the ’60s and the Knicks offense of the ’70s. Darn it, I loved those teams. ... When you played in the park and you learned how to play basketball, we didn’t have three guys standing on the wing. You played with each other, and that’s what basketball is like. You’re playing with your friends to help them and your team be successful. In my mind, that’s what a five-man team is."

Re: Tom Moore 3.0

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 2:21 am
by Dedicated_76ers_fan
Darn it, I LOVE Eddie Jordan. That IS a coach. Someone who knows and loves the game of basketball.
Everything he said in that meeting was spot on. My favorite part was him telling it like it is. He's been telling it like it really is.

Like Theo told it how it is in the playoff loss. I LOVE guys who tell it like it is.

Re: Tom Moore 3.0

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 3:19 am
by tk76
ankle420breaker wrote:Lou was our best 4th quarter option 2 seasons ago. It would be nice if he could start heating up down the stretch again like he did 2 seasons ago.


You are right- and I am just trying to forget last year as far as Lou is concerned. I'm hoping his problems can be attributed to being put in a bad role (the scorer and PG surrounded by an offensively crippled 2nd unit.)

Re: Tom Moore 3.0

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 4:53 am
by ojr107
Tom- I am desperate to learn that L.Will/Iggy/Young really did improve their 3 point shooting this summer during and after Mark Price's camp. Any indication yet that this is true?

Re: Tom Moore 3.0

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 11:14 am
by Don
I knew Div. 1 college bench players that could hit 3's at will in pickup games. Did that translate into points during games? No. While they're fooling around, they will always hit. During the season, we will find out what has really changed. Hopefully everything. I'm sure all the shooting will help Iggy, Thad, and Lou- the repetition will surely help.

Re: Tom Moore 3.0

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 1:52 pm
by tmoore
ojr107 wrote:Tom- I am desperate to learn that L.Will/Iggy/Young really did improve their 3 point shooting this summer during and after Mark Price's camp. Any indication yet that this is true?


Young said he worked a lot on his shooting and ball-handling -- he says Jordan told him he'd play anywhere from the 1 to the 4. He improved his 3-point shooting from 31.6 percent as a rookie to 34.1 percent last year while having the confidence to take 164 3s -- 145 more than as a rookie.

Iguodala didn't do that much in the summer of 2008 because he was negotiating a new contract. I like that he worked with Price and associate Bruce Kreutzer.

Williams has an opportunity to start and play major minutes. Improving his perimeter shooting would be a big help.

Re: Tom Moore 3.0

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 1:53 pm
by tmoore

Re: Tom Moore 3.0

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 2:54 pm
by tmoore
Dedicated_76ers_fan wrote:Darn it, I LOVE Eddie Jordan. That IS a coach. Someone who knows and loves the game of basketball.

Everything he said in that meeting was spot on. My favorite part was him telling it like it is. He's been telling it like it really is.

Like Theo told it how it is in the playoff loss. I LOVE guys who tell it like it is.


The ironic thing about what Ratliff said after the season-ending loss to the Magic was that it had nothing to do with Tony DiLeo -- Ratliff was upset that his role had been reduced due to Dwight Howard's suspension. That's it. Most of the players preferred playing defense with Ratliff, instead of Dalembert, because Ratliff was consistent -- they knew what to expect from him, as opposed to with Dalembert.

Re: Tom Moore 3.0

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 3:44 pm
by tk76
Dalembert = Inconsistent

In all areas.

Re: Tom Moore 3.0

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 4:48 pm
by philly262
I bet Dalembert is gone before the end of the year.

For some reason I just think Dalembert isn't gonna last that long here.

Re: Tom Moore 3.0

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 4:56 pm
by Sixersftw
no one is going to even look Sam's way until 2010/11.

Re: Tom Moore 3.0

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 6:07 pm
by tk76
Tom, can you find out if Thad has grown a bunch since he was drafted?

Look at these predraft measurements:

Brand: 6’8.25 / 6’9.5 (Without/with shoes)
Young: 6’5.75 / 6’7.5

Now look at the press conference:
Image

I know Thad has bulked up, but has he grown 2-3" taller since the draft? He was not quite 19 when those pre-draft measurement were taken, so maybe he is PF sized now? That said, he needs to be the SF.

Re: Tom Moore 3.0

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 6:10 pm
by sixerswillrule
philly262 wrote:I bet Dalembert is gone before the end of the year.

For some reason I just think Dalembert isn't gonna last that long here.


Wouldn't be surprised. A lot of us that he would be gone by now.

Re: Tom Moore 3.0

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 6:11 pm
by tk76
I think Speights or Smith need to show they have made strides defensively before they can give away Sam for cap relief.

Re: Tom Moore 3.0

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 6:13 pm
by sixerswillrule
Yeah, Thad must have grown since he was 2.5 inches shorter than Brand before the draft and the same height as Iguodala. Looks like he's about 6'9" in shoes now. Still doesn't make him a PF, though.

Re: Tom Moore 3.0

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 7:01 pm
by Dedicated_76ers_fan
Yeah, Speights at C would be the next step. Like I said, with Speights it's he can either be: Amare or Chris Wilcox.

Obviously hoping for Amare. He showed Amare up when they played that game against PHX.

Re: Tom Moore 3.0

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 7:21 pm
by Sixersftw
I don't know if Thad has grown that much. I just think Elton is short
Image

This is a photo from media day last year. It looks like Brand has an inch on iguodala, about the same as Thad. Though, I realize this photo isn't as ideal as the side to side picture of Brand and Thad.

Re: Tom Moore 3.0

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 7:27 pm
by dbodner
Yeah, Thad must have grown since he was 2.5 inches shorter than Brand before the draft and the same height as Iguodala


Without shoes Brand measured 6'8.25" without shoes, compared to Iguodala's 6'5.75'. The NBA officially lists players with their height in shoes (i.e. Dwight Howard Measured 6'9" without shoes). He's not as undersized as people claim.

Re: Tom Moore 3.0

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 7:35 pm
by dbodner
Just further comparison:
height without shoes, wingspan, standing reach
Brand: 6'8.25", 7'5.5", 9'2"
Stoudemire: 6'8.5", 7'1.75", 8'11"
Blake Griffin: 6'8.5", 6'11.25", 8'9"
Al Jefferson: 6'8.5", 7'2.5", 9'2"
Beasley: 6'7", 7'0.25", 8'11"
Al Horford: 6'8.75", 7'0.75", 8'11"