Euro 08 Semi Finals: Germany vs Turkey

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Euro 08 Semi Finals: Germany vs Turkey

Postby Point forward on Fri Jun 20, 2008 6:21 pm

On Wednesday, a full scale intense-but-100%-friendly civil war (euphemistically known as "Euro 08 Half Final match I") with strong intra-German influence will take place between following combattants:

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QF win vs Portugal 3-2; W vs AUT 1-0; L vs CRO 1-2; W vs POL 2-0
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ImageTURKEY aka KEBAPLAND
QF win vs Croatia 5-2 a.P.; W vs CZE 3-2; W vs SUI 2-1; L vs POR 0-2
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KEY PLAYERS
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Germany will rely on the power soccer of Chelsea's Michael Ballack to set things straight. He the heart and soul of Germany and a defensive and offensive dynamo. Always clutch in big games, and single-mindedly thirsting for the first international victory of his career. The second key player is Bayern Munich striker/winger Lukas Podolski, who is a versatile and dangerous left footed attacker.

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Turkey will miss several key players (see below), so Podolski's Bayern team mate Hamit Altintop (right midfield) will be vital for them. He is a versatile playmaking winger with a hard and precise shot. Striker Semih Senturk is theman for the important goals, scored the vital 1-1 vs SUI and the life-saving 1-1 vs CRO plus a penalty.

EDIT: I originally listed Nihat, but he is also injured now, duh!

X FACTORS
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Germany's X-Man is Bastian Schweinsteiger. Horrible in the first 2 matches but superb in the QF, he is the German ace in the hole. Incredibly inconsistent, but if he swaps his usual ball hogging and bad crosses for unstoppable dribblings and deadly shots, he can decide matches alone. On the Turkish side, goalie Rustu Recber is like Two-Face: jaw-dropping lapses mix with moments of sheer genius. He can also single handedly decide matches – both ways.

MISSING PLAYERS
Man oh man, Turkey is hit HARD by injuries, red card and 2nd bookings. Goalkeeper Volkan, winger Arda Turan, defender Emre Asik and playmaker Tuncay Sanli will certainly miss the game b/c of yellow and red cards. Defenders Emre Belozoglu and Servet Cetin are injured and at least highly questionable. Gokhan Zan is playing through injury, too. On the other hand, midfielder Mehmet Aurelio will return. EDIT: Nihat is also injured and is probably done for the tourney. Backup guys who are injured, too, are Tumer and Emre Gungor.

Germany is much better off. Midfielder Frings has broken ribs, but could play… but IMHO his sub Rolfes did a great job last game.

QUESTION MARKS
Germany is the quintessential KO round team, but the defense Metzelder/Mertesacker has been looking shaky so far. Also, Germany has difficulties if they have to dictate the flow of the game, they rather let the enemy come and counter like vs POR. Turkey is so heavily hit by injuries and cards that they can hardly field anything resembling a defensive line. But as you all know, Turkey has been the master of turning games around in the last 300 seconds.

RECENT HISTORY
Barring games from prehistoric times (i.e. when Turkey played the West/East Germanies), the score is surprisingly even. In the qualification campaign for EC 2000, Turkey beat Germany 1-0 after a blunder of Oliver Kahn, and clawed themselves to a goalless draw in the return game. In 2005, Germany won the hiterto last game 2-1.

MISC INFO
I think it is time to elaborate the special relationship between our two countries. When Germany's industry thrived during the 1960s, they massively recruited foreign workers ("Gastarbeiter"), and the majority were Turkish. For a long time, Germans chauvinistically looked down at them, but just as the South Americans integrated themselves into the USA and made it a better place, the Turks integrated into Germany and made it a better place, too. Imagine a game between Caucasian U.S. Americans and Hispanic U.S. Americans, and you about know how we feel about this match here. Man, are we fired up!!

CONCLUSION
Germany is the clear cut favorite. Turkey is so heavily hit by losses that they would lose 9 out of 10 matches against GER… but only 9. Let’s see if Cinderella can do it one more time, but the odds are heavily stacked against them if they play the KO match masters Germany.

Here in Germany, we erupt in civil war, but in the most positive way. NOBODY will even THINK of NOT watching this match. MAN O MAN, this will be the most FUN match EVER. I expect oceans of German black-red-gold and Turkish red half moon crescent flags on the streets at Wednesday evening, and huge masses of people shouting and screaming in happy anarchy. If TUR should win, then they should win it all, but I OF COURSE firmly think that GER will end the Turkish highflying with a 2-0 win. Right, Gulcan? :lol: (small German-Turkish insider joke)

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Re: Euro 08 Semi Finals: Germany vs Turkey

Postby ElTurco on Fri Jun 20, 2008 7:02 pm

Great thread...

This is probably going to be most intense game in recent european football in terms of fanfare, it would ve been that much better if we could put out a competitive squad out there but you cant have it all i guess :). I would ve loved, LOVED, to be in Europe cheering along with my people, you Germans are quite lucky. Celebrations should already be underway and will continue rest of the way and at the end this game should unite people like no other game in history. My uncle and aunt are German nationals married to Germans and living in Germany, they are pretty torn but you wont see sad faces at the end of the game.

As for the game, i would ve given us at least 50% chance if we had a full squad but we lost almost all of our defenders and midfielders and already shown some fatigue against Croatia. I dont expect a W but i expect my boys to put out a fight and bow down gracefully.

Anybody knows the UEFA regulations/rules regarding injury replacement call-ups? i would love to see Yildiray Basturk and Halil Altintop out there against Germans.
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Re: Euro 08 Semi Finals: Germany vs Turkey

Postby Point forward on Fri Jun 20, 2008 7:17 pm

This will be a GOAT game from GER-TUR point of view. Flagwaving will reach a new level here in Krautland :)

IMHO you can additionally nominate extra GKs if you lose 2 goalies, and extra players if your available player count drops below 17 (11 plus a 6 man bench). When we won Euro 96, we were so badly hit by injuries that we only had the starting 11 plus reserve GKs Kahn and Reck plus Schneider, Häßler and Bierhoff, so we could additionally add Todt to make it 17.
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Re: Euro 08 Semi Finals: Germany vs Turkey

Postby BlackMamba on Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:37 pm

i agree, it's going to be a very very intense game. we could be within days of experiencing one of the best games in recent times.
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Re: Euro 08 Semi Finals: Germany vs Turkey

Postby kandiking on Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:59 pm

I'm sure that the intensity will be extremely high. as an american one of the most memorable experiences of my life was in the florence town square when italy won WC 06.
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Re: Euro 08 Semi Finals: Germany vs Turkey

Postby ElTurco on Sat Jun 21, 2008 1:42 am

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Re: Euro 08 Semi Finals: Germany vs Turkey

Postby ElTurco on Sat Jun 21, 2008 1:45 am

some gems from BBC...

why the presumption that, because turkey are missing a number of players, they'll automatically lose to germany?
of course they won't. okay, they might concede two or three goals, they might look dead and buried by the 87th minute, but they'll still win. they're like the b-movie monster that keeps getting back up, no matter how many times you kill it.


I think a smart strategy for the germans in this game is to not score goals against turkey

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Re: Euro 08 Semi Finals: Germany vs Turkey

Postby bacid on Sat Jun 21, 2008 4:34 am

Ok the german "bild Zeitung" is already writing that it's gonna be a easy win against the turks. But I think that the german team is very scared of Turkey even with all the red cards and injuries. They have to make sure they that they have 2 goals more than us in the final minute. Then they can start celebrating :lol:

Go TURKEY!!!!!
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Re: Euro 08 Semi Finals: Germany vs Turkey

Postby Sleepy on Sat Jun 21, 2008 5:32 am

Jogi Löw will order some silver bullets to hand them out to our players... those turks are hard to kill.

Some guardian bits, as the other thread is already locked:

GOAL! Croatia 1-0 Turkey (Klasnic 119): Poor old Rustu. A Croatia attack down the wing, the cross is deflected and it's dribbling toward the dead-ball line. Inexplicably, Rustu chases after it, Modric beats him to it, chips it back across and Klasnic wins it in the air to nod home. Croatia are heading to the semi-finals!

GOAL! Croatia 1-1 Turkey (Semih 120) Er, eh? Rustu lumps a free-kick forward, the ball drops on the edge of the area and Semih lashes it home. An utterly remarkable finish to an entirely unremarkable game. And that's it, we're going to pens.

[...]Penalties[/...]

An object lesson in how not to take penalties from Croatia. Well, with no England there someone had to do it.

So it's Turkey v Germany in the last four. And Turkey, so the BBC commentator tells us, have been in the lead for around two minutes of the 390 they've played in the tournament so far.


Another random observation: Most, if not all, Turkish Shops and Döner Restaurants I passed today were closed... go figure :wink:
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Re: Euro 08 Semi Finals: Germany vs Turkey

Postby basti on Sat Jun 21, 2008 6:01 am

as I said it in the other thread, Berlin (especially the Central-Berlin) will be HELL but a positive hell. damn I'm reeeeeeaaaaaaaally excited.
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Re: Euro 08 Semi Finals: Germany vs Turkey

Postby tkb on Sat Jun 21, 2008 8:32 am

Nice thread. Turkey has made an impressive run in this tournament. I'm supporting Germany in this game tho.
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Re: Euro 08 Semi Finals: Germany vs Turkey

Postby BlackMamba on Sat Jun 21, 2008 8:59 am

turkey will be missing 9 players?
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Re: Euro 08 Semi Finals: Germany vs Turkey

Postby b-ball forever on Sat Jun 21, 2008 10:36 am

I live in the Turkish/Indian quarter of town, and the whole area went friggin ballistic last night...

The Turks have been impressive as hell so far, they're unconscious, but this shud be where the fairy tale ends. Don't see how they can beat the Mannschaft with so many casualties.
Germans better not sleep on the Turks still, gotta keep that loss vs Croatia stuck at the back of their heads!
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Re: Euro 08 Semi Finals: Germany vs Turkey

Postby Point forward on Sat Jun 21, 2008 10:44 am

And the Turkish injury woes go on. Nihat injured his leg and is probably done for the tourney. :(
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Re: Euro 08 Semi Finals: Germany vs Turkey

Postby ElTurco on Sat Jun 21, 2008 11:40 am

UEFA needs to let us call up injury replacements or we are going to watch one boring semi final in what has been a hell of a tournament. Us playing without Tuncay, Arda and Nihat is like Boston playing Lakers without Garnett, Pierce and Allen.
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