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Zelaznyrules wrote:Yeah, I was a little subtle. He's a great help-side shot blocker but a poor basketball player. And with his health history I can't help but wonder why anyone would think highly of him.
1UPZ wrote:jcsunsfan wrote:1UPZ wrote:Noel with another 30-40 pounds of muscle could be very handy as a PF/C.
I think the Morris twins could nab him indeed. At worst McD can use Noel as a bigger asset, but he and Len as the front court could be amazing defensively.
Noel with another 30-40 pounds becomes much more injury prone and looses all the quickness and athletic ability that makes him worth anything at all.
Not really, if he puts majority of that weight on his core region (thighs and bum), it doesnt make him less mobile, in fact it makes him stronger of jumps and running. The weight is also kept near the knees, so strain is minimized laterally and vertically.
When I say gain 30-40 pounds, it doesnt mean BULK neccessarily. It means lean muscle everywhere, for a 6'11 guy, 25-30 pounds on the lower portion of his body (core region) and 10 pounds on his shoulders/arms would NOT affect his mobility, it makes him stronger and more resilient to being knocked around WHICH is worse for injuries.
1UPZ wrote:carey wrote:jcsunsfan wrote:
Noel with another 30-40 pounds becomes much more injury prone and looses all the quickness and athletic ability that makes him worth anything at all.
Did it do that to Anthony Davis? We won't know that until we see it.
Exactly, Davis packed on mass on his arms/shoulders and his thighs/legs IMO (cannot verify due to long shorts lol).
But he looks stronger, more resilient to getting knocked around which can cause injuries especially landing awkwardly.
DRK wrote:Trade the twins and you trade team chemistry along with it. The Morri are the vocal leaders, they stick up for the rest of the team. I love their thug-ish attitude, and couldnt care less about the techs.
Its been too long since the Suns had some bad boys on the team. Now we finally get some, finally get some fighters, and we're looking to trade them.
SMH.
bwgood77 wrote:1UPZ wrote:jcsunsfan wrote:
Noel with another 30-40 pounds becomes much more injury prone and looses all the quickness and athletic ability that makes him worth anything at all.
Not really, if he puts majority of that weight on his core region (thighs and bum), it doesnt make him less mobile, in fact it makes him stronger of jumps and running. The weight is also kept near the knees, so strain is minimized laterally and vertically.
When I say gain 30-40 pounds, it doesnt mean BULK neccessarily. It means lean muscle everywhere, for a 6'11 guy, 25-30 pounds on the lower portion of his body (core region) and 10 pounds on his shoulders/arms would NOT affect his mobility, it makes him stronger and more resilient to being knocked around WHICH is worse for injuries.
Do you think 30-40 pound will help him shoot better than 42% from 2 feet? Or do you just really like his 7 boards and 1.6 blocks a game?
ginobiliflops wrote:DRK wrote:Trade the twins and you trade team chemistry along with it. The Morri are the vocal leaders, they stick up for the rest of the team. I love their thug-ish attitude, and couldnt care less about the techs.
Its been too long since the Suns had some bad boys on the team. Now we finally get some, finally get some fighters, and we're looking to trade them.
SMH.
Pretty much. I guess we like being the soft franchise. If we trade the Mo Bros for ****, then I'm out for a bit. Too much stupidity going on this season for me to take.
Saberestar wrote:I disagree. You can play with passion and fight every ball on the court without talking ****, being arrogant and yelling at the refs all game long. Morris Bros are not real tough players, they can't even box out correctly and they are mediocre defenders at best.
Tim Duncan, Wade , Westbrook or Tony Allen for example are "real" tough players and agresive and great defenders too. They don't have to act like thugs to gain respect, that is for losers like Matt Barnes or Larry Sanders.
Hopefully Morris Bros can learn the lesson that Hornacek is trying to explain them and they can be more effective and humble on the court in the future.
Sunsdeuce wrote:Barkley speaks the truth!!! I love barkley. There is no way around it, small ball is garbage. Just like I've (and others here) been saying all year. It's time for the Suns to end this 3 PG nonsense.
@AZSports: Barkley: The #Suns 'pinning themselves in a corner' with 3-PG system - http://t.co/GEwH59Pdk5 http://t.co/WVEppNSCON
"You're not going to beat Memphis, you're not going to beat Portland, you're not going to beat Dallas…I don't like small ball," he said. "That's one of my pet peeves."
And, he added, you can't pay a good big if you're paying three point guards.
"You've got to pay big guys at some point," he said."You've got to get some good quality big guys."
SF88 wrote:Sunsdeuce wrote:Barkley speaks the truth!!! I love barkley. There is no way around it, small ball is garbage. Just like I've (and others here) been saying all year. It's time for the Suns to end this 3 PG nonsense.
@AZSports: Barkley: The #Suns 'pinning themselves in a corner' with 3-PG system - http://t.co/GEwH59Pdk5 http://t.co/WVEppNSCON
"You're not going to beat Memphis, you're not going to beat Portland, you're not going to beat Dallas…I don't like small ball," he said. "That's one of my pet peeves."
And, he added, you can't pay a good big if you're paying three point guards.
"You've got to pay big guys at some point," he said."You've got to get some good quality big guys."
Thank you so much for posting that. Thread worthy;
viewtopic.php?f=27&t=1369493
Deserves its own thread, not the trade thread
Sunsdeuce wrote:SF88 wrote:Sunsdeuce wrote:Barkley speaks the truth!!! I love barkley. There is no way around it, small ball is garbage. Just like I've (and others here) been saying all year. It's time for the Suns to end this 3 PG nonsense.
@AZSports: Barkley: The #Suns 'pinning themselves in a corner' with 3-PG system - http://t.co/GEwH59Pdk5 http://t.co/WVEppNSCON
"You're not going to beat Memphis, you're not going to beat Portland, you're not going to beat Dallas…I don't like small ball," he said. "That's one of my pet peeves."
And, he added, you can't pay a good big if you're paying three point guards.
"You've got to pay big guys at some point," he said."You've got to get some good quality big guys."
Thank you so much for posting that. Thread worthy;
viewtopic.php?f=27&t=1369493
Deserves its own thread, not the trade thread
I apologize. This new realgm format is messing me up. I liked it when you hit the Suns front page you could see the top threads. Again my apologies. I will move that post.
SF88 wrote:Sunsdeuce wrote:SF88 wrote:Thank you so much for posting that. Thread worthy;
viewtopic.php?f=27&t=1369493
Deserves its own thread, not the trade thread
I apologize. This new realgm format is messing me up. I liked it when you hit the Suns front page you could see the top threads. Again my apologies. I will move that post.
Lol no don't applogize, I created that thread after you posted it in here.
I said thank you because you brought my attention to it. Don't apologize lol, I probably wouldn't have seen the article if you didn't post it.
GetYourPHX wrote:I love Barkley as much as the next Suns fan but what does he know about winning championships?
