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Re: Official Trade Thread: Part 4

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:42 am
by Frank Lee
I say

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Thats not going to happen.

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True

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I do it ASAP


Well.... that pretty much sums it up.

Back on the list

Re: Official Trade Thread: Part 4

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 2:01 am
by nevetsov
Dragic13 wrote:Gortat, Beasley, Johnson

for

Ellis, Harris, Dalembert


Dragic/Marshall
Ellis/Tucker
Dudley/Harris
Morris/Scola
Dalembert/O'Neal


I do like it, I must be the only one who thinks a Dragic/ Ellis backcourt could work.

Defensively, Ellis is a small SG (better suited to guarding PGs) while Dragic is more a combo guard, too slow and big to guard PGs.

Offensively, I'm not sold on Dragic creating and running an offense full time yet and I think Monta's dynamicness and ball handling ability (2 things this team sorely lacks) would take the pressure of Goran enough for him to be much more effective and efficient offensively.

Having a scoring (two way) centre like Gortat is a luxury we don't require right now when all our PFs are offensive minded as well and suck on D. I have no problem letting our PF rotation of Scola/ Morris/ Beasley get more offensive opportunity as long as we complement them with defensive minded C's. Otherwise, we end up with a whole bunch of bigs that all want to score but with little D between them.

Re: Official Trade Thread: Part 4

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 2:02 am
by exSunsFan
Gortat dragic


For

Jennings ilyasova and 1st


Saw it on mil board

Re: Official Trade Thread: Part 4

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 2:19 am
by sunskerr
God damn...I cannot imagine the hell that will break loose if we acquire Ellis to play with Brown and Beasley.

Re: Official Trade Thread: Part 4

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 2:36 am
by AZWildByNature
Kerrsed wrote:http://www.brewhoop.com/2013/1/18/38916 ... cin-gortat

Brewhoop mentioned sending Jennings with one of Ilyasova, Gooden, Dalembert, or Udrih to Phoenix for Gortat and Dragic.

Gortat is a big body that would provide a post-oriented meat-and-potatoes option to pair with the Bucks' current collection of string bean forwards. Jennings is a 23-year-old lead guard who would fit into the Suns' rebuilding project. The only problem is that Phoenix already has a point guard in Goran Dragic. The idea is that the Bucks could send Jennings out with some other high-salary option (Ersan Ilyasova, Drew Gooden, Samuel Dalembert, Beno Udrih) in exchange for Gortat and Dragic -- who is in the first year of a four-year, $30 million deal he signed with the Suns during the off-season. Feel free to play around with the trade machine and see if you find any combinations that excite you.


Everyone knows that i LOVE Jennings. I would take Jennings/Dalembert/1st for Dragic/Gortat.


I agree. But it is just a rumor.

Re: Official Trade Thread: Part 4

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 2:39 am
by Kerrsed
AZWildByNature wrote:Found the Source...


Yup, i posted that about a page and a few hours ago.

Re: Official Trade Thread: Part 4

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 2:42 am
by nevetsov
Any deal with the Bucks would have to include Doron Lamb, of course...

Re: Official Trade Thread: Part 4

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 2:43 am
by nevetsov
Sign the lesser Dragic too and we could have Goran, Zoran and Doron!

Re: Official Trade Thread: Part 4

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 2:54 am
by AZWildByNature
The next few days would be the best time for the Suns to make a trade. New coach coming in, 5 days until the next game, and the fans are all waiting for a move to make this team younger and ready to be developed.

Suns are at rock bottom of the West and a move can only soft the blow to the season being a failure. The more young players the Suns can get the better chance they have to "shorten" the rebuilding period.

Re: Official Trade Thread: Part 4

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 2:55 am
by exSunsFan
Dragic is horrible and is playing with no aggression !!!!


I wouldn't mind Jennings, Henson, sanders from the bucks

But those are the only three I would touch

Re: Official Trade Thread: Part 4

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 2:57 am
by DRK
exSunsFan wrote:Dragic is horrible and is playing with no aggression !!!!


I wouldn't mind Jennings, Henson, sanders from the bucks


But those are the only three I would touch


Of course you wouldn't.

Re: Official Trade Thread: Part 4

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 4:07 am
by carey
AZWildByNature wrote:Suns are at rock bottom of the West and a move can only soft the blow to the season being a failure. The more young players the Suns can get the better chance they have to "shorten" the rebuilding period.


Ugh...

The reason we haven't made a move yet is that you can't just trade for any young guy. It has to be the right young guy. And those aren't always available.

Side note, I do think Bledsoe is ready to lead a team, I don't think our FO is ready to give up on the Dragic experiment this quickly though. Nor would the Clips want to pay a backup to CP3 $7.5M/yr when they are about to pony up the big bucks for him.

Re: Official Trade Thread: Part 4

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 4:25 am
by exSunsFan
What about dragic to Utah for millsap and burks

Markieff Morris and Wes johnson for Bledsoe

Bledsoe
Burks
Dudley
Millsap
Gortat

Re: Official Trade Thread: Part 4

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 5:03 am
by RunDogGun
sunskerr wrote:God damn...I cannot imagine the hell that will break loose if we acquire Ellis to play with Brown and Beasley.


That's why they got rid of the coach, they'll just let them all chuck. :lol:

Re: Official Trade Thread: Part 4

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 8:01 am
by thamadkant
Suns have 3 pieces in Dragic, Dudley and Gortat.

They can likely get a top 20 pick for each, they can literally field a team of rookies as starters...

Clean slate as they come...
Gortat - Prospect, Expiring and a top 15 pick
Dudley - top 20 pick + prospect
Dragic - top 20 pick + prospect

Prospects I like
- Bledsoe
- Sullinger
- Burks
- Bradley
- J.Lamb

Re: Official Trade Thread: Part 4

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 2:17 pm
by Qwigglez
If Oklahoma doesn't take home the title this year and the Raptors pick ends up being a lottery pick I could see the Suns trading Gortat on draft day for Lamb/Jones & the pick that could end up being a prospect big.

Re: Official Trade Thread: Part 4

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 4:42 pm
by rsavaj
1UPZ wrote:Suns have 3 pieces in Dragic, Dudley and Gortat.

They can likely get a top 20 pick for each, they can literally field a team of rookies as starters...

Clean slate as they come...
Gortat - Prospect, Expiring and a top 15 pick
Dudley - top 20 pick + prospect
Dragic - top 20 pick + prospect

Prospects I like
- Bledsoe
- Sullinger
- Burks
- Bradley
- J.Lamb


I don't know if that's a good idea. You need some vets, or else you'll end up with a bunch of rookies who don't really know how to play just reinforcing their own bad habits. You also need a lockerroom leader. It's one of the reasons I really wish Grant was still herel.

Re: Official Trade Thread: Part 4

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 4:49 pm
by exSunsFan
Makes me wonder how beasley would be with Nash and grant still here

Re: Official Trade Thread: Part 4

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 5:09 pm
by exSunsFan
Trade is posted on hoopshype


Dudley and beasley for Gay was original plan

I def would do it and I think beasley on Memphis would be good for him

Re: Official Trade Thread: Part 4

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 5:15 pm
by exSunsFan
Gay or beasley , Dudley
Gortat markieff for josh smith and Morrow

We get a top pick with shabazz or nerlens

Dragic
Shabazz
Gay
Smith
Lakers pick (Len, austin, or center)

Or

Dragic
Goodwin (lakers pick)
Gay
Smith
Nerlens