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Why is Beasley not playing?
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 3:42 am
by LukasBMW
Why is Beasley not playing?
Anyone know?
Re: Why is Beasley not playing?
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 3:47 am
by phrazbit
LukasBMW wrote:Why is Beasley not playing?
Anyone know?
Because he is the worst player in the league.
Re: Why is Beasley not playing?
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 3:48 am
by gaspar
phrazbit wrote:Because he is the worst player in the league.
Re: Why is Beasley not playing?
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 4:02 am
by RaisingArizona
phrazbit wrote:LukasBMW wrote:Why is Beasley not playing?
Anyone know?
Because he is the worst player in the league.
Re: Why is Beasley not playing?
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 4:10 am
by RunDogGun
The question asked after being awaken from a four year comma.
Re: Why is Beasley not playing?
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 4:34 am
by Kerrsed
phrazbit wrote:Because he is the worst player in the league.
Re: Why is Beasley not playing?
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 4:40 am
by LukasBMW
Come on, seriously.
He has talent and he didn't do THAT bad for us earlier. Just two years ago he put up damn near 20 points a game.
What's the locker room buzz? Out of shape? Drugs? Lazy? Doesn't know plays? Won't listen? Feuding with Gentry?
Re: Why is Beasley not playing?
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 4:43 am
by RunDogGun
LukasBMW wrote:Come on, seriously.
He has talent and he didn't do THAT bad for us earlier. Just two years ago he put up damn near 20 points a game.
What's the locker room buzz? Out of shape? Drugs? Lazy? Doesn't know plays? Won't listen? Feuding with Gentry?
He literally made everyone he played with worse. Although he did look like he was stoned every time he entered the game.
Re: Why is Beasley not playing?
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 4:44 am
by lilfishi22
LukasBMW wrote:Come on, seriously.
He has talent and he didn't do THAT bad for us earlier. Just two years ago he put up damn near 20 points a game.
What's the locker room buzz? Out of shape? Drugs? Lazy? Doesn't know plays? Won't listen? Feuding with Gentry?
Have you not followed the board or watched him play at all yet this season? I can't think of any other reason why this question needs to even be asked...
Re: Why is Beasley not playing?
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 5:09 am
by RaisingArizona
Disinterested, lazy, unbelievably low bball iq, lost on defense, horrid fg%.
Amare 2.0 without the offense.
Re: Why is Beasley not playing?
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 5:10 am
by phx#7
LukasBMW wrote:Come on, seriously.
He has talent and he didn't do THAT bad for us earlier. Just two years ago he put up damn near 20 points a game.
What's the locker room buzz? Out of shape? Drugs? Lazy? Doesn't know plays? Won't listen? Feuding with Gentry?
You're right it wasn't THAT bad, it was far far worse. They tried him as a feature player and he was abysmal, then they tried him as a role player and he was still abysmal. There really is no mystery to why he's not playing. He was given more opportunity than he deserved and if he could be even a little bit productive he'd still be getting time.
Re: Why is Beasley not playing?
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 5:42 am
by ash_k
Let me be who he is...He is a scorer
"Offensively, I've been a big believer in him, I just think he can score. I said it two years ago: I think one day he may lead the league in scoring. He has a Carmelo Anthony ability to score the ball. He's a matchup problem every night, He has quickness and a shot at that size. That makes him tough to guard."
—Doc Rivers
Re: Why is Beasley not playing?
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 7:23 am
by phrazbit
ash_k wrote:Let me be who he is...He is a scorer
"Offensively, I've been a big believer in him, I just think he can score. I said it two years ago: I think one day he may lead the league in scoring. He has a Carmelo Anthony ability to score the ball. He's a matchup problem every night, He has quickness and a shot at that size. That makes him tough to guard."
—Doc Rivers
He is not a scorer, he is merely a shooter. He has NEVER been even a league average player when it comes to points per shot. If you let virtually any player in the league gobble up the amount of possessions Beasley does (and this is at every stage of his career) they would put up a better point total than he does. His "scoring" ability is a mirage, the guy is a freaking horrible scorer outside of the once in 20 games when he gets hot. Throw in him being a turnover machine, poor on the glass and so awful defensively that he might as well not bother to cross mid-court... and you have one of the worst players in the league.
Re: Why is Beasley not playing?
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 1:21 pm
by thekillingtree
the biggest things that stood out to me when i saw the suns play here was his body language on the court and on the sidelines. he threw his headband into the crowd after 3 bad plays and once he made 2 mistakes he just played as if he was daring gentry to pull him out. then he pouted on the bench for the rest of the time. he's just doesn't have good court presence and holy crap does he take awful shots.
Re: Why is Beasley not playing?
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 3:49 pm
by raczej1980
Q should be - why the hell Brown is still playing !!!???
Re: Why is Beasley not playing?
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 4:21 pm
by ash_k
phrazbit wrote:ash_k wrote:Let me be who he is...He is a scorer
"Offensively, I've been a big believer in him, I just think he can score. I said it two years ago: I think one day he may lead the league in scoring. He has a Carmelo Anthony ability to score the ball. He's a matchup problem every night, He has quickness and a shot at that size. That makes him tough to guard."
—Doc Rivers
He is not a scorer, he is merely a shooter. He has NEVER been even a league average player when it comes to points per shot. If you let virtually any player in the league gobble up the amount of possessions Beasley does (and this is at every stage of his career) they would put up a better point total than he does. His "scoring" ability is a mirage, the guy is a freaking horrible scorer outside of the once in 20 games when he gets hot. Throw in him being a turnover machine, poor on the glass and so awful defensively that he might as well not bother to cross mid-court... and you have one of the worst players in the league.
At 21 years old he managed to score 19.2 ppg shooting 45% FG 37 3Pt% in 32 minutes in 73 games while playing next to Olympian Kevin Love who was scoring 20.2ppg shooting 47%FG..
In the last 2 years he has averaged 22 minutes per game(???)
Just like Mayo those guys are scorers, both went to college for a year and averaged over 20 per games at their schools..
For some unknown reason OJ's pt got cut the last 2 years though he scored 17 plus in his first two seasons; now we have seen how Dallas has left him "be who he is" (A SCORER) and Mayo has gone back to his scoring prowess .
Beasley needs to be put in the same situation as O.J., maybe Phoenix (and Alvin) is not the place for him...
Re: Why is Beasley not playing?
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 4:23 pm
by schnakenpopanz
brown and beasley is just too much to take...
Re: Why is Beasley not playing?
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 4:30 pm
by phx#7
ash_k wrote:
Beasley needs to be put in the same situation as O.J., maybe Phoenix (and Alvin) is not the place for him...
Beasley was given every chance anyone could possibly ask for to start the season. He was flat out terrible, it doesn't matter that he once scored 19ppg on terrible efficiency with a terrible team.
Re: Why is Beasley not playing?
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 5:02 pm
by ash_k
phx#7 wrote:ash_k wrote:
Beasley needs to be put in the same situation as O.J., maybe Phoenix (and Alvin) is not the place for him...
Beasley was given every chance anyone could possibly ask for to start the season. He was flat out terrible, it doesn't matter that he once scored 19ppg on terrible efficiency with a terrible team.
Are you one of those PER guy?
For me when a Small Forward scores 19ppg shooting 45%FG and 37% from 3 in 32 minutes in a season that tells me he is doing a great job..
The player is allowed to have slow start in a season, new environment, new coach(I have always believed Gentry was a bad coach and got "bailed out" by Nash the last 2 years)
Plus this season B-Easy has had 5 games when he played over 30 minutes and his averages :
18.4 PPG 7 RPG 45%FG
Re: Why is Beasley not playing?
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 5:06 pm
by phx#7
ash_k wrote:
Are you one of those PER guy?
For me when a Small Forward scores 19ppg shooting 45%FG and 37% from 3 in 32 minutes in a season that tells me he is doing a great job..
The player is allowed to have slow start in a season, new environment, new coach(I have always believed Gentry was a bad coach and got bailed by Nash the last 2 years)
Plus this season B-Easy has had 5 games when he played over 30 minutes and his averages :
18.4 PPG 7 RPG 45%FG
And how many shots did it take him to get those points and how many points did he give up on the other end? He's been absolutely terrible by every metric available. That one season he score 19ppg it took him nealy 18fga per game to get there, that is horrible.
The team plays better when he's not on the court which is obvious to anyone whose actually bothered to watch the games. To say otherwise is to admit you haven't actually watched.