P.J. Tucker
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Saberestar wrote:I always have said the same...I think Tucker is a good bench player. He can play 18-20 minutes per game on every team in the NBA and be effective.
His defense, rebounding and hustle are needed here because Bender and Chriss are raw.
I prefer to have him on the team and trade Knight. Knight is the player that needs to go ASAP.
Chandler and Tucker can stay here if we do not receive any BIG offer for them.
I agree. He doesn't take a ton of shots on offense and the majority of those are either putbacks or corner 3's. Occasionally he stinks it up with a post up or a fadeaway J but that's maybe once, max twice a game and it's only ever against a mismatch.
Defensively, he's a beast. Unlike offense where a player can take shots away from other players who should be taking the shot instead, you can't take defense away from other players. You can only contribute.
Right now, neither Bender nor Chriss can consistently contribute on either ends of the court. Chriss had a great rebounding game against NY but it was also his first double digit rebounding effort. I love watching Bender play even when he's not contributing but he's not contributing so I get it when he only plays a few minutes a game.
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I can see it now. Tucker being positioned for a contending team. Knight will go to Philly at some point.
Bledsoe only gets traded if we are going ultra tank
Bledsoe only gets traded if we are going ultra tank
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carey wrote:No god damn way am I watching PJ Tucker for 3 more years. Not going to happen.
The reaction to PJ's inevitable 4-40 M extension with the suns next summer is going to be lit Figured 40 mil sounds right that's 1 mil for every minute he plays every damn game.
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WeekapaugGroove wrote: The reaction to PJ's inevitable 4-40 M extension with the suns next summer is going to be lit Figured 40 mil sounds right that's 1 mil for every minute he plays every damn game.
I've never lost it on the Suns before. If this happens be prepared.
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carey wrote:WeekapaugGroove wrote: The reaction to PJ's inevitable 4-40 M extension with the suns next summer is going to be lit Figured 40 mil sounds right that's 1 mil for every minute he plays every damn game.
I've never lost it on the Suns before. If this happens be prepared.
If that happens do you then become a Pelicans fan considering you said there was no way you were watching PJ for another few years?
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bwgood77 wrote: If that happens do you then become a Pelicans fan considering you said there was no way you were watching PJ for another few years?
Nah. Never that. I'll just not watch any basketball. I've been a fan since '92 but it doesn't define my life or anything. My son plays baseball on a travel team and it's year round except for the 8 weeks between mid-December to mid-February when it's too cold in New Orleans to play (though it was literally 81° yesterday,) so that takes up an enormous chunk of time already. Plus there are so many good Tv shows to watch. I seriously have a back log of 40 episodes of Tv to catch up on over Christmas break. I haven't even seen the 2nd half of the Westworld season.
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carey wrote:WeekapaugGroove wrote: The reaction to PJ's inevitable 4-40 M extension with the suns next summer is going to be lit Figured 40 mil sounds right that's 1 mil for every minute he plays every damn game.
I've never lost it on the Suns before. If this happens be prepared.
I'd skip Suns games on League pass....
Because it'll just piss me off every time I see Tucker brick a shot and think he gets paid 10 million dollars a year.
Unless the Suns somehow gets 2 Star players to soften the impact of Tucker.
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I've noticed the pattern of how divided Suns board is in all of these polls that are being posted. Quite interesting to have such diversity of thoughts on a team.
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“If you go through the NBA and you were to ask every player about P.J. Tucker, I guarantee you everyone would say he’s one of the top defenders in the league,” Watson said.
“Players have this unwritten and unspoken respect that we have for each other, and you know who can really play and who can’t. P.J.’s been magnificent for us. He plays with his heart.”
http://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/nba/suns/2016/12/21/phoenix-suns-want-build-defensive-mindset-around-pj-tucker/95730966/
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Saberestar wrote:“If you go through the NBA and you were to ask every player about P.J. Tucker, I guarantee you everyone would say he’s one of the top defenders in the league,” Watson said.
“Players have this unwritten and unspoken respect that we have for each other, and you know who can really play and who can’t. P.J.’s been magnificent for us. He plays with his heart.”
http://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/nba/suns/2016/12/21/phoenix-suns-want-build-defensive-mindset-around-pj-tucker/95730966/
I am waiting for Watson to give praise to the Gorilla and the chubby male suns dancer.
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Unlike Chriss, we've actually seen elite defense from PJ so at least this comment has some merit.
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I don't know why everyone hates Tucker so much. His energy and defense is infectious. He just gives it his all every game, and we need more players to do that.
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TheIdiotGamer wrote:I don't know why everyone hates Tucker so much. His energy and defense is infectious. He just gives it his all every game, and we need more players to do that.
Make sure to get a DD this holiday season, PJ.
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It's not hate, just common sense. He is terrific, high value piece on a contender, a wet dream for many PO teams. There's no arguing about that. As Suns obviously do not match that criteria, there are 2 (reasonable) scenarios: 1) keeping him on the team as an off-the-bench, 15-20 mpg mentor for the youngsters (which means that we resigned to get any potential value for him in return and decided to quietly spend him); 2) trading him while he still has a fair value to make space for kids we just drafted and/or we WILL draft in the nearest future.
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Tucker should be on the Rockets, Grizzlies or even Spurs.... They need someone like him.
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1UPZ wrote:Tucker should be on the Rockets, Grizzlies or even Spurs.... They need someone like him.
According to Ian Begley who covers the New York Knicks for ESPN, the Knicks’ front office has targeted the Phoenix Suns’ P.J. Tucker with the hopes of improving their defensive mindset, a part of the team’s game that Head Coach Jeff Hornacek feels is severely lacking right now....
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bwgood77 wrote:1UPZ wrote:Tucker should be on the Rockets, Grizzlies or even Spurs.... They need someone like him.According to Ian Begley who covers the New York Knicks for ESPN, the Knicks’ front office has targeted the Phoenix Suns’ P.J. Tucker with the hopes of improving their defensive mindset, a part of the team’s game that Head Coach Jeff Hornacek feels is severely lacking right now....
Problem is I feel PJ is worth a first to a contender. I get that the Knicks won't want to trade a super high pick for him, but a protected first may work.
I like O'Quinn but not at age 26 for this team. Hernangomez would be okay I guess, but I feel like we'll draft a young center this year anyways.
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Tucker on the Knicks??
Seriously though... I would actually cheer for him if he plays for the Rockets. i believe the Rox could come out of the west if they can get a couple of bruisers and Tucker is one half of that.
Seriously though... I would actually cheer for him if he plays for the Rockets. i believe the Rox could come out of the west if they can get a couple of bruisers and Tucker is one half of that.
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Does Tucker for Porzingis work?