TASTIC wrote:MathiasPW wrote:I am gonna bet $10 that we draft a PG...
Is the lesser Harrison twin a PG?
If he is, $50 on him.
Or if there are any more Plumlees or Zellers, we're in!
The lesser one is the shooting guard, so we'll pass.
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TASTIC wrote:MathiasPW wrote:I am gonna bet $10 that we draft a PG...
Is the lesser Harrison twin a PG?
If he is, $50 on him.
Or if there are any more Plumlees or Zellers, we're in!
Fischella wrote:Okay, I got my first Mock, still too early I think, but I was bored, out, in case any of you is interested.
viewtopic.php?f=38&t=1346018
I give you the Lakers pick, the 10th, plus yours, the 13th, with Cliff Alexander, big physical PF with rebounding skills and good passer, aggresive demeanor on offense, plus Caris LeVert, skilled swingmen that can pass, create, run the floor and defend, pretty long arms, as the elections.
gaspar wrote:This is pretty cool:
[tweet]https://twitter.com/NylonCalculus/status/519896089731006464[/tweet]
MrMiyagi wrote:Can you explain how this works?
gaspar wrote:MrMiyagi wrote:Can you explain how this works?
You can find best comparisons statistically for college players. For example here is top 10 best comps for Tyler Ennis last year:
bwgood77 wrote:Wow, Stanley Johnson looking awesome as a freshman in this first Maui tourney game. He is such a huge wing, and is just all over the place. He looks much more nba ready immediately than Aaron Gordon did early last year (or for that matter, than Aaron Gordon did at any time last year).
NavLDO wrote:Assuming we pick in the area of 13-14, that the LAL stink enough to where we don't get their pick this year, and the fact that Flip recently made a statement that Minny is now "rebuilding" vice "retooling", so we can kiss that pick goodbye as well, who are you all tracking as a good pick for us this next year? I know the draft board will change dramatically between now and when we pick, at least it will outside the top 5. But if we actually keep the pick and don't trade it away prior to the trade deadline, during FA, or during the draft itself, who should we be targeting?
Making the assumption we do ZERO between now and then, I think we need to target a PF. We likely wouldn't expect the player to start right away, so someone to play behind Kieff for now. And I would also expect that said prospect won't be much better than Kieff, if at all, so having 2 players at Kieff's level wouldn't be a bad thing. Do we target a guy that will be more of a "stretch 4", or a bruiser down low?
Here are a list of guys that are projected currently to go mid-to-late 1st Rd based on a couple of different sites. what are your thoughts for each? (Where ranked on NBADraft.net and DraftExpress, respectively, in parenthesis)
Montezl Harrell, Lou., Jr, 20 -- 6'8" 240 (6th, 17th)
Bobby Portis, Ark, Soph, 19 -- 6'10", 240 (13th, 22nd)
Kristaps Porzingas, Latvia, 19 -- 7', 220 (10th, 9th)
Chris McCullough, Syr, Frosh, 19 -- 6'9", 220 (7th, 24th)
Kevon Looney, UCLA, Frosh, 18, -- 6'9.5" 220 (9th, 8th)
Cliff Alexander, Kansas, Frosh, 19, -- 6'9" 250 (14th, 15th)
Trey Lyles, Kentucky, Frosh, 19, -- 6'10", 250 (17th, 50th) --holy dichotomy, Batman!!
Christian Wood, UNLV, Soph, 19, -- 6'11" 220 (20th, 35th)
I don't watch any College BB, so have no clue as to which of the rankings is more accurate. Size is, of course, a concern, and some of these kids will put on some muscle/weight once in the NBA, but personally, I'd like to see a guy that's 6'10" or taller, with a Wingspan of at least 7'2", and weighs at least 240 (or has the frame to add the weight), So I tried to add the guys that have at least 2 of the 3, with the exception of Chris McCullough, who has the Wingspan, just not the weight or height.
Which direction do you think we go? I know what we do at the trade deadline will go a long way in providing insight to which direction we go during the draft, so as mentioned, PF seems logical based on what we are today. I could also see us going SG or C, but hopefully our log jam at SF and PG will keep us away from those positions, unless some unbelievable talent falls to our draft slot, but even then, it better not be PG!!
Best College Player: Montrezl Harrell (Louisville)
On March 1, 2014, Louisville played at Memphis, and with 10:42 left in the game and Louisville trailing by two, Harrell was forced to shoot a 3-pointer before the shot clock expired. He made it. It was his second career 3, and it was only the third time that he even attempted one. The interesting thing about that play is that if you showed it to a basketball fan who’d never heard of Harrell, that fan would be convinced that Harrell regularly makes 3s. This may sound crazy, but it’s true: When I look back on a season full of huge shots, great games, and compelling story lines, I’ll never forget Harrell making that 3. It just caught me so off-guard. It felt like I had witnessed the birth of a superstar.
WHOA! You mean to tell me that the big man who destroys opponents on the low block, is a rebounding machine, and looks like he might shatter the backboard when he dunks also has THAT in his arsenal? May God have mercy on the rest of college basketball if he comes back next season.
Memphis won that game by six and Harrell finished with a career-high 25 points and 12 rebounds. Of course, none of that mattered to me. All I cared about was being ahead of the curve. I told myself that one day people would be shocked to see Montrezl Harrell making multiple 3s per game. They would wonder how a guy who had shot 46 percent from the free throw line the previous year suddenly learned how to make it rain from the perimeter. And that’s when I’d smile like a proud parent because I’d known that he had it in him ever since that Memphis game.
Fast-forward nine months to November 14, 2014. The first marquee game of the college basketball season, Louisville versus Minnesota at the Armed Forces Classic, begins with the Cardinals winning the tip. And on the first possession of Louisville’s 2014-15 season, this happened:
(click on link below to go to article with videos)
Harrell finished 3-for-4 from the 3-point line against Minnesota. He scored 30 points, pulled down seven boards, and went 9-of-10 from the free throw line as Louisville won by 13. Montrezl Harrell is about to rip through college basketball like a Sharknado where the sharks have chain saws for arms, the tornado is made of fire, and the sounds of the destruction are washed out by Florida Georgia Line songs.
bwgood77 wrote:Since you said you don't follow college basketball, I will add that Harrell will probably be more ready to contribute immediately than most rookies because he isn't a one and done. Also, he has played under Pitino. The last center who played under Pitino? Gorgui Dieng, who David Thorpe (who is the espn insider who writes about and ranks rookies and second year players) rates as the best second year player currently from last year's draft. Anyone who has played under Pitino is going to play good defense, have good fundamentals, and likely have a lot of stamina.
Actually, here is the video from that article and the highlights from Harrell's 30 pt game to open the season.
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHnAKaNPMJ8#t=15[/youtube]
NavLDO wrote:Thanks, man! Yeah, he looks like a man among boys, and obviously not due to his height. He looks and plays strong. Would be nice to get a rookie that could contribute fairly early, and since he's a junior, better chance of that happening with him than a lot of the other kids likely to go in the lottery.
The Morris twins have been largely holding down the power forward spot for the Suns, but adding Harrell would make it even stronger. Harrell is a more explosive athlete, a better rebounder and shot blocker. He lacks the Morris' ability to drain 3s, but adds some toughness to a Suns front line that can be a little on the soft side.
bwgood77 wrote:NavLDO wrote:Thanks, man! Yeah, he looks like a man among boys, and obviously not due to his height. He looks and plays strong. Would be nice to get a rookie that could contribute fairly early, and since he's a junior, better chance of that happening with him than a lot of the other kids likely to go in the lottery.
Interesting that in Ford's recently updated mock draft, he has us taking Harrell at 18The Morris twins have been largely holding down the power forward spot for the Suns, but adding Harrell would make it even stronger. Harrell is a more explosive athlete, a better rebounder and shot blocker. He lacks the Morris' ability to drain 3s, but adds some toughness to a Suns front line that can be a little on the soft side.
http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/moc ... fresh=true