Reasons why Warren should be starting

[JDLAW]

If I Had it my way I would go with what gave us success last year individually.

Dragic/Green/Tucker/Morris/Len.

When dragic was the only ball handler he was efficient rarely missed ran the show.
Gerald went from a 12-13ppg guy to a 17ppg starter who can drop 30 on any night.
Tucker was perfect fit doesn't need ball just play defense, rebound shoot the open 3.
Frye now Morris stretches the floor on high screens for dragic.
Plumlee now Len is just a better player but when Bledsoe went down so did plum they have good chemistry together.

let's dragic do what he wants he's handling it he knows if he passes green/tucker will launch it.
Instead of kicking out to Bledsoe or IT who may make another move after the pass.

Bench MOB
Thomas/Bledsoe/Warren/Marcus/Plumlee

Small lineup but the speed would be a nightmare vs teams backups.
The spacing also helps Thomas maneuver in mid range game and opens up Bledsoe to the rim in which he has good chemistry with Plumlee.

Bledsoe will never come off the bench though.

Actually that was not the best line-up last year. The Suns record was best when Dragic and Bledsoe both started and Frye was in the starting line-up. That cannot be recreated for obvious reasons.

Bledsoe missed half a season.
Jeff last two games actually has went to dragic/green/tucker/Morris/Len for brief moments.

It's when dragic is at his best IMO.

I know he missed half a season, but the Suns were posting a winning percentage of almost 70% when Dragic and Bledsoe were starting together. Dragic/green/tucker/Morris/Len for brief moments is way too small a sample size to draw any conclusions as to what that line-up will look like.

[Revived]

Move Tucker to PF and have him at SF. Kieff plays 6th man like last season.

[TeamTragic]

Move Tucker to PF and have him at SF. Kieff plays 6th man like last season.

Trade Green/Thornton/Granger + play Goodwin/Warren

[RaisingArizona]

Move Tucker to PF and have him at SF. Kieff plays 6th man like last season.

Trade Green/Thornton/Granger + play Goodwin/Warren

Green and Thornton are expiring. I doubt Granger ever plays here.

[nevetsov]

Green deserves a buyout, I hope he gets a chance to make a run with a playoff team this season. Can't for the life of me understand why we didn't deal him for the best offer at The deadline.

Thornton, meh. Granger... Meh.

[King4Day]

Green deserves a buyout, I hope he gets a chance to make a run with a playoff team this season. Can't for the life of me understand why we didn't deal him for the best offer at The deadline.

Thornton, meh. Granger... Meh.

If I'm not mistaken, it's too late. He had to be bought out by Sunday night to be eligible for the playoffs with another team.
Given his minutes are less and less, I could see us still waive him to allow him a chance to get some minutes elsewhere (non contender) and boost his value.
If the Dragic fiasco didn't happen, i believe Green would have been dealt.

[JTrain]

[Revived]

Love that shirt, totally gonna buy it.

[JMac1]

Starting? I would just love to see him play consistently. Really tired of the "young" Suns' displaying their limited skills while the other real young guys tor on the bench.

Play TJ and Goodwin a lot!! Let see if they can get better with consistent playing time.

[kennydorglas]

I'm starting to get sad with this Warren's situation.

You know why he (and Goodwin) arent playing, huh? They dont shoot threes.
Instead Mook is allowed to chuck 19 times and people love it ahaha

I'll never get this train of thought.

[jcsunsfan]

I'm starting to get sad with this Warren's situation.

You know why he (and Goodwin) arent playing, huh? They dont shoot threes.
Instead Mook is allowed to chuck 19 times and people love it ahaha

I'll never get this train of thought.

They both shoot threes. Conspiracy whacko.

[Cutter]

Warren will start when the coach and staff feel he gives the team a better chance to win than our current SF.

Now, should Warren get more developmental minutes during a game? Yes, he should definitely get more game time minutes.

[SideSwipe]

I would like to see a lineup of
Bledsoe
Tucker
Warren
Kieff
Len

With the offense going through Bled, Kieff and Warren- I think Warren would respond well to the touches and the balance that lineup would afford.

[Phystic]

1. Our system is fast break baskeball and we have 2 plodders at forward. Mook try's to run but he is way below average running the court for a small forward. One of TJ's strengths is taking off on the fast break and he is one of the best non flying fast break finishers in the game already. A perfect system fit!
2. He is a consistent rebounder. Mook is up and down. (a little projection )
3. Our stated plan is to keep a core together and learn and grow like the spurs. He clearly is going to be your best sf in the future and good enough already to play with the big boys. Let them become a starting 5 (with len) that grows together!
4. The gm can watch how the real starting 5 play together and how the real bench plays together. Thus he can access the needs for the future better. Contract extensions/trades.
5. TJ grows faster and contributes faster. Why is that important? He very possibly he is your best offensive player on the team and a key player in making a run at a title. I normaly would not recomend player development over team achievement. But when he is a key guy to make a title run, you see the big picture. Also I think despite his growing pains he quickly makes you a better team now.

Nice list. But he is not ready to be a starter on a playoff contending team.

Playoff contending team? We haven't been one of those for quite awhile. So guess we can start him now

[Revived]

I love the argument that Warren isn't good enough to start on this garbage team. What's the Suns record in the past 2-3 months? Like WAY the f**k below .500?

[JTrain]

I don't really care if he starts, but if he's not averaging at least 20 MPG for the rest of the season, we're doing it wrong.

He's averaged 9.6 since the break. That ain't right.

[Jdiddy701]

I would love to see Warren start. The one I'm wondering what will happen is Archie.


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[Revived]

If Tucker keeps getting drunk before games and continues to show up late to the bus stop then that should be reason enough.

[Cutter]

If Tucker keeps getting drunk before games and continues to show up late to the bus stop then that should be reason enough.

I'd love to know what's going on with Tucker. Missing one bus can be chalked up to a mistake, but missing a second team bus 20 games later is concerning. I'm a PJ fan, but if he is not all in for this team, or has outside distractions impacting his judgements then Suns need to reevaluate him being on the team. I'm really hoping he isn't out late drinking and partying. I have no evidence that he is doing this, but with his recent extreme DUI there will always be suspicion cast his way when these things occur.

Hopefully this doesn't happen again. I like PJ.

[thamadkant]

TJ Warren starting, the first 10-15 games he will struggle... But its an investment for next season.
Same with Goodwin... he will struggle playing 20+ minutes, he will get a lot more turn overs, he will end up driving into big bodies in the paint and get his shots blocked... but its an investment for next season also.

They work on their weaknesses and from what they've learnt and they will develop and climb to the next level.

Unfortunately for them, Hornacek still thinks the Suns have a shot at 8th seed, and as a coach, he will do what it takes to get to that spot.... as a coach, developing players is secondary to getting "w"s now... coaches are judged on their team accomplishments NOT whether they have developed a star player... thats a GM's job.