kennydorglas wrote:Every big is killing us because Plumlee allow them to get hot early.
Its freakin' unbelievable that Plumlee isnt EVEN CONTESTING THEIR SHOTS. He's just watching and waiting for the inbound. When Alex Len comes in, we have a better defense and their big wont go hard to the rim because of Len. When Plumlee is on court, their prime sets is to give the ball for his matchup and let'em feast.
THIS IS KILLING US. We are shooting lights out and still losing 'cause we cant defend the rim early and give up so many turnovers with lazy offense.
Give 30min for Len and hope that Plumlee can regain his confidence against other teams scrubs.
Absolutely. This is one of those rare instances that playing the "young guy" in favor of the more "experienced" guy actually kills two birds....Len is just straight up better, and could use the burn against other team's starters AND the experience of actually starting a game. He can't possibly do worse than Plumlee. And if Plumlee is going to be part of a package in a trade, at this point, he's going to be negative value rather than positive. Why not "showcase" Plumlee in a role that he would be playing on another team, and that would be as a reserve big. NO ONE is going to use Plumlee as a starter--he's flat out the WORST starting 5 in the NBA by a wide margin. He should be a 3rd string, with Kieff as our #2 Center, and let Marcus and Tolliver share time at the 4, some thing to the effect of:
Kieff -- Starts as the PF for 5 or so minutes, then bring in Marcus/Tolliver, and rotate Kieff to the 5 and sit Len. Kieff gets 5 minutes at PF, 30 minutes at C
Len -- Starts as the 5, plays 5 or so minutes, depending, then sit him in favor of Kieff. Len gets about a total of 25 minutes at the 5, if he doesn't foul-out sooner.
Marcus -- Comes in relief of Kieff at the 4. Plays about 23-25 minutes at the 4.
Tolly -- Comes in relief of Marcus. Plays about 18-20 minutes at the 4.
PJ -- Starts at the 3; plays 20-25 minutes.
Warren -- Comes in relief of PJ; plays 10-15 minutes, depending, and whatever he can't play, Green or Marcus plays the remaining at SF.
Something to the effect of the above would be worth trying. If Warren isn't ready, let Green/Marcus play more.
-And for those that don't like the Morri, I truly don't understand how you can't like what they are providing for $13M per. For that price, we are getting, per game: 25 pts, 10.5 rebs, 4 assts, 1 blk, 36% 3pt%, 45.5% FG%. I know you can't really look at it like that specifically, but point is, we are getting pretty good production from these guys at a bargain. That's a 1/4 of our production per game at a 1/5 of the total salary cost. Hard to beat that, IMO. Marcus=10pts, 4rebs for $5M; Kieff=15pts, 6.5rebs for $8M. Good luck finding that somewhere else in the league NOT on a rookie contract.
-And for those claiming Len will never amount to being a good starting 5 for us, we're paying $14M for 4 pts on 2-11, 0-6 3pt shooting, and 7 TOs for our starting PG. And it's not that much of an anomaly, either, he's had other similar games:
3-11 vs UTA
0-6 vs LAC
2-10 vs IND
4-14 vs DEN
5-14 vs ORL
He's also had games with multiple TOs--9, 7, 6, 6, and last night's 7
Point being, EB is not any more consistent than Len is, but I don't see people claiming that EB not being worthy of being our starting PG, and worse yet, EB is a Vet, whereas, for all intents and purposes, this is Len's rookie year, and we are all of 23 games into it.
I can't say Len will for sure be a stud starting 5 for us; all I'm saying is that it's WAY too early to tell at this point, and we just need to be patient. And for those that want to point to the success of Dieng, Olynyk, and O'Quinn, all of these players have 2-3 times the amount of playing time under their belts, and are at least 2 years older. Same with Adams or Drummond--they may be the same age, but minutes played and starting are 3x and 6x that of Len, respectively.
Am I acting like a Len apologist? Yep. But I don't know how else to show that Len is a far way off from his prime and it's not really fair to judge one way or the other yet.
And one more thing, I know I come in here, game thread after game thread, the morning after acting like little miss sunshine, but I usually need that "night of sleep" before I come in here to post my opinions on the team, because if I posted during the game, I'd be just as much of a "negative nancy" as a lot of you, so please don't take my "after the fact" analysis of trying to be all high and mighty like I'm the model of rational thought--I'm just as guilty as anyone else of knee-jerk analysis, and even after the fact, I'm wrong more often than right!
