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Re: Suns Moving Up in Draft? 

Post#81 » by DRK » Wed Jun 24, 2015 3:33 am

JohnVancouver wrote:I've been absent a long time but can't help weighing in - I'd love to see the Suns get WCS. I think Bledsoe is too expensive and too prone to injury to pin hopes on. Would have been much better to trade him and keep the Dragon ....

Shot blocker, defender, decent rebounder, good finisher around the rim and has an improving short jumper, hook. Offensive rebounding skill -

I can see him blocking a shot and starting the break. How i like to see the Suns play, but with some stopping power in the middle


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Re: Suns Moving Up in Draft? 

Post#82 » by ag3 » Wed Jun 24, 2015 4:57 pm

Knicks would never do any deal unless Calderon was also involved.
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Post#83 » by RaisingArizona » Wed Jun 24, 2015 5:16 pm

ag3 wrote:Knicks would never do any deal unless Calderon was also involved.


Yeah, no thanks. Good luck with the euros.
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Post#84 » by RaisingArizona » Wed Jun 24, 2015 5:18 pm

JohnVancouver wrote:I've been absent a long time but can't help weighing in - I'd love to see the Suns get WCS. I think Bledsoe is too expensive and too prone to injury to pin hopes on. Would have been much better to trade him and keep the Dragon ....

Shot blocker, defender, decent rebounder, good finisher around the rim and has an improving short jumper, hook. Offensive rebounding skill -

I can see him blocking a shot and starting the break. How i like to see the Suns play, but with some stopping power in the middle

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Post#85 » by ag3 » Wed Jun 24, 2015 5:21 pm

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ag3 wrote:Knicks would never do any deal unless Calderon was also involved.


Yeah, no thanks. Good luck with the euros.


Knicks dont have to trade.
One of Okafor, Russel, Porzingis or Mudiay will be available at #4.

Without Calderon in any deal, I highly doubt Phil accepts any trade. No point.
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Post#86 » by RaisingArizona » Wed Jun 24, 2015 5:29 pm

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ginobiliflops wrote:
ag3 wrote:Knicks would never do any deal unless Calderon was also involved.


Yeah, no thanks. Good luck with the euros.


Knicks dont have to trade.
One of Okafor, Russel, Porzingis or Mudiay will be available at #4.

Without Calderon in any deal, I highly doubt Phil accepts any trade. No point.


It makes no sense for us either. Not really sure how this rumor started.
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Post#87 » by Damkac » Wed Jun 24, 2015 7:34 pm

ginobiliflops wrote:
ag3 wrote:Knicks would never do any deal unless Calderon was also involved.


Yeah, no thanks. Good luck with the euros.

All that matters is how good player can we get with 4th pick. If you see someone with a star potential then you trade for him and don't give a #### if you have to take Calderon contract or give 13th pick.
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Post#88 » by RaisingArizona » Wed Jun 24, 2015 7:43 pm

Damkac wrote:
ginobiliflops wrote:
ag3 wrote:Knicks would never do any deal unless Calderon was also involved.


Yeah, no thanks. Good luck with the euros.

All that matters is how good player can we get with 4th pick. If you see someone with a star potential then you trade for him and don't give a #### if you have to take Calderon contract or give 13th pick.


So who's the star at 4?
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Post#89 » by Damkac » Wed Jun 24, 2015 9:54 pm

I'm not a scout so I don't know. But I belive McD knows. I like his draft choices so far.
Of course mayby this is a weak draft and there is nobody worth interest at 4. But if there is a player who has realistic chance to be multiple allstar would you hesitate to give a late lottery pick or take a bad contract to get him?
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Good luck with the euros.

That's what all the GMs that passed on Gobert and Giannis thought.
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Post#90 » by jcsunsfan » Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:22 pm

Damkac wrote:I'm not a scout so I don't know. But I belive McD knows. I like his draft choices so far.
Of course mayby this is a weak draft and there is nobody worth interest at 4. But if there is a player who has realistic chance to be multiple allstar would you hesitate to give a late lottery pick or take a bad contract to get him?
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Good luck with the euros.

That's what all the GMs that passed on Gobert and Giannis thought.


Same with Nurkic, Vucevic, Mozgov, and Gortat.
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Post#91 » by Damkac » Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:31 pm

Yeah thats what I don't understand: every european prospect is compared to other white european players that was busts but never to european players that turned out good
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Post#92 » by JTrain » Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:41 pm

Let's trade up. I want to feel excited again. I want something resembling a likable team again.
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Post#93 » by lilfishi22 » Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:50 pm

Damkac wrote:Yeah thats what I don't understand: every european prospect is compared to other white european players that was busts but never to european players that turned out good

Kidding me? :banghead:

I've seen Dirk's name thrown around these forums a lot more than I've seen Vesley's.
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Post#94 » by Damkac » Wed Jun 24, 2015 11:01 pm

Sorry I meant some people think that every european player will be bust because there was some european players that was busts and they ignore other european players that was successful.
Calling every tall white european who can shoot "next Dirk" is also stupid. Porzingis isn's as skilled as Dirk but is more athletic. They are two different players.

Adding up: saying Porzingis will suck because Bargniani sucks is as wrong as is saying that Porzingis will be HOF-er because Dirk is great :P
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Post#95 » by lilfishi22 » Wed Jun 24, 2015 11:06 pm

Damkac wrote:Sorry I meant some people think that every european player will be bust because there was some european players that was busts and they ignore other european players that was successful.
Calling every tall white european who can shoot "next Dirk" is also stupid. Porzingis isn's as skilled as Dirk but is more athletic. They are two different players.

Adding up: saying Porzingis will suck because Bargniani sucks is as wrong as is saying that Porzingis will be HOF-er because Dirk is great :P

That's my point.
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Post#96 » by JohnVancouver » Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:26 am

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Re: Suns Moving Up in Draft? 

Post#97 » by Stix » Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:32 am

ag3 wrote:Knicks would never do any deal unless Calderon was also involved.


Would you guys take the Morris twins for Calderon?
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Re: Suns Moving Up in Draft? 

Post#98 » by AtheJ415 » Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:48 am

Zero Tolerance wrote:
ag3 wrote:Knicks would never do any deal unless Calderon was also involved.


Would you guys take the Morris twins for Calderon?


You have to be joking, right? Why are you under the impression that the Morris twins are contracts that have to be moved, and why do you think we'd want to move them for contracts that are worse and attached to older players?
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Re: Suns Moving Up in Draft? 

Post#99 » by jcsunsfan » Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:48 am

lilfishi22 wrote:
Damkac wrote:Yeah thats what I don't understand: every european prospect is compared to other white european players that was busts but never to european players that turned out good

Kidding me? :banghead:

I've seen Dirk's name thrown around these forums a lot more than I've seen Vesley's.


The only people throwing Dirks name around are the ones saying that Dirk is such an exception and you are out of your mind to compare any present Euro-big to him.

Honestly. This whole, Euro-bigs don't ever turn out is just false. There are so many good ones in the league.
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Re: Suns Moving Up in Draft? 

Post#100 » by bwgood77 » Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:49 am

Zero Tolerance wrote:
ag3 wrote:Knicks would never do any deal unless Calderon was also involved.


Would you guys take the Morris twins for Calderon?


letsgosuns might. Anyone else here...likely a no or a HUGE no.

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