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When will Booker hit 8,000 career points?

5th season
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6th season
12
33%
7th season
4
11%
 
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Post#61 » by Qwigglez » Fri Jun 26, 2015 3:43 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:Even if he's more jj Redick than Thompson it's a good pick at 13. Because he's so young there's really no telling what he'll become, he might even grow an inch or two.

My first instinct is he won't play much this year because of his age but I could be wrong. The things he already does well like shooting and moving without the ball might earn him some minutes quicker than most young guys. I like that the suns added a high IQ player, they need more of them.


That would be awesome if he grew another inch or two!
We should definitely have some minutes open, at least with the current roster.
Bledsoe/Archie
Knight/Booker
Warren/Tucker(UGH!)/Granger
????/Kieff
Len/????(hopefully Wright)
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Re: DEVIN BOOKER 

Post#62 » by JMac1 » Fri Jun 26, 2015 6:24 pm

According to McD on Dough and Wolfe this morning. Archie will have to outplay Booker for playing time. He said it is an open competition between the two of them. I like that
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Post#63 » by RaisingArizona » Fri Jun 26, 2015 6:39 pm

JMac1 wrote:According to McD on Dough and Wolfe this morning. Archie will have to outplay Booker for playing time. He said it is an open competition between the two of them. I like that


Archie better develop a shot then.
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Re: DEVIN BOOKER 

Post#64 » by tdjm » Fri Jun 26, 2015 6:46 pm

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JMac1 wrote:According to McD on Dough and Wolfe this morning. Archie will have to outplay Booker for playing time. He said it is an open competition between the two of them. I like that


Archie better develop a shot then.


Honestly, if Archie can just figure out how to use his insanely good frame on defense he could easily take a ton of minutes, He's shockingly bad on that end for someone who has basically every physical tool you could want.

I do admittedly enjoy the prospect of all 4 Kentucky guards in the back court. Lots of depth, and lots of ability to mix and match and throw a ton of looks at your opponent. The GSW roster that just won had a huge amount of flexibility, I really like moving in that direction.
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Re: DEVIN BOOKER 

Post#65 » by Stix » Fri Jun 26, 2015 6:48 pm

More Thompson than Redick, IMO.
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Post#66 » by RaisingArizona » Fri Jun 26, 2015 6:55 pm

Reddick isn't 6'6-6'7--that's why the Thompson comparison fits much better.
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Re: DEVIN BOOKER 

Post#67 » by NavLDO » Fri Jun 26, 2015 7:16 pm

tdjm wrote:lol dude if you rely on combine athletic testing you'll go nuts, it has so little carryover to actual gameplay

zach lavine put up the same lane test #'s as the Jimmertron, and one of them is an athletic beast and the other can't stay in front of a chair

doug mcdermott had a higher vertical than blake griffin

the only combine numbers that matter are height, weight, wingspan, standing reach...and no-step vert. everything else is trash


Yep, your right; combine athletic testing is useless, they just like prospects to go through useless drills and testing for 's*its and giggles'. I'm glad you're here to inform us all of the only worthwhile tests and measurements that matter. :-? Because none of these guys bulk up or slim down/diet for the measurements, and no one can have a 'bad day' or a 'poor start' in the drills, etc.

Because you listed two examples doesn't constitute indisputable fact or causality.

A lot of the pre-draft/pre-combine analysis stated that Booker wasn't 'long enough' for his height, then whoops, all of a sudden, he shrunk .5" in height, and 'grew' his arms 2-2.5" to increase his wingspan/standing reach. Now all of a sudden he's right in the mix with others his size. At 6'6" in shoes, his wingspan increased from his previous measurements to 6' 8.25", and his reach increased to 8' 6.5".

He's now 'longer' and has a higher 'reach' than Rashad Vaughn, Aaron and Andrew Harrison. He's fine length and reach wise, and the best part is he's definitely in the top 3 shooters in this draft.

So, while I wanted a PF desperately, SG wasn't a bad 2nd choice position wise. I'd rather have another SG than SF, PG, or C, since we already have our starters/future starters there. We don't have a TRUE SG starter, only combo guys like Bledsoe and Knight, with Bog, Booker, and Goodwin still 'TBD'

Overall, I think McD definitely took the BPA, since Turner, Lyles, and Kaminsky were gone. But now, McD needs a plan to fill our PF vacancy, and quick!
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Post#68 » by Walt_Uoob » Fri Jun 26, 2015 7:36 pm

CBS's draft grades mention that "Booker will fit in really well in small lineups next to Eric Bledsoe and Brandon Knight. He'll help to space the floor and open up the lane for those two slashing and carving up the floor." That would be very very small but I suppose I like the idea of being able to range from super small with lineups like Bledsoe-Knight-Booker-Warren-Kieff to pretty big with lineups like Knight-Tucker-Granger-Kieff-Len. That first lineup seems like it would just get chewed up but I guess the versatility is attractive.
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Post#69 » by WeekapaugGroove » Fri Jun 26, 2015 7:38 pm

tdjm wrote:
ginobiliflops wrote:
JMac1 wrote:According to McD on Dough and Wolfe this morning. Archie will have to outplay Booker for playing time. He said it is an open competition between the two of them. I like that


Archie better develop a shot then.


Honestly, if Archie can just figure out how to use his insanely good frame on defense he could easily take a ton of minutes, He's shockingly bad on that end for someone who has basically every physical tool you could want.

I do admittedly enjoy the prospect of all 4 Kentucky guards in the back court. Lots of depth, and lots of ability to mix and match and throw a ton of looks at your opponent. The GSW roster that just won had a huge amount of flexibility, I really like moving in that direction.


I really hope they only bring in an emergency type PG who won't see minutes and roll with Bledsoe, Knight, Archie and Booker as the 4 guards. If they do it right and stagger Bledsoe and Knight's minutes where those two play all 48 mins at the point there is actually a decent amount of minutes left over for both Archie and Booker to get some run in games. I'll be pissed if they bring in some journeyman FA to steal minutes.
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Re: DEVIN BOOKER 

Post#70 » by tdjm » Fri Jun 26, 2015 7:48 pm

NavLDO wrote:
Yep, your right; combine athletic testing is useless, they just like prospects to go through useless drills and testing for 's*its and giggles'. I'm glad you're here to inform us all of the only worthwhile tests and measurements that matter. :-? Because none of these guys bulk up or slim down/diet for the measurements, and no one can have a 'bad day' or a 'poor start' in the drills, etc.

Because you listed two examples doesn't constitute indisputable fact or causality.



Well...wingspan and no step vert have the highest actual predictive power (mathematically, if you do the #s) with going on to be a productive basketball player. Height + Wingspan in tandem are also more predictive of success than standing reach. Agility drills and max vert really have no predictive power whatsoever. Being objectively agile doesn't really matter if you lack the BBIQ and talent to take advantage of it.

For the record, I don't think Booker is unathletic or anything and I think his dimensions are solid, plus I think he's smart enough to leverage what he has. Crushing agility drills just doesn't really mean he's going to look particularly athletic on the court
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Re: DEVIN BOOKER 

Post#71 » by rsavaj » Fri Jun 26, 2015 7:51 pm

It was a good pick, solid B grade from me. I don't think he's the next Klay Thompson, but he already has an NBA skill that is in high demand: shooting. We need shooting desperately, and we got the best shooter in the draft.

His evolution from role-player to something more will depend on whether he adds more dimensions to his game.
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Post#72 » by JMac1 » Fri Jun 26, 2015 8:46 pm

rsavaj wrote:It was a good pick, solid B grade from me. I don't think he's the next Klay Thompson, but he already has an NBA skill that is in high demand: shooting. We need shooting desperately, and we got the best shooter in the draft.

His evolution from role-player to something more will depend on whether he adds more dimensions to his game.



Nobody's the next anything until they become who they are. Curry's wasn't seen as the next great PG, but he is one now. I could care less. People always put caps on rookies in every sport because it is just to easy to do and you cannot argue the point that Kobe will be the next MJ until he is.

At 18 Booker has all of the necessary attributes to be just as good as Klay or Reggie or Ray Allen or Allen Houston...... He is 18. Hell he could grow another inch or two. Wait until he loses that baby fat.

Booker only needs so so handles because he shoots so well, which he will develop because he is a student of the game. You don't need the Kobe Bryant, DWade, MJ ball stoppers anymore in this league. All you need with the new rules and play is a Klay Thompson or Mitch Richmong or bigger John Paxson or Craig Elho, because the game favor GS style. Good pick up.

Once we get our PF of the future.....we are straight moving forward. TJ Warren and Alex Len growth will make the PG's and SG's that much better and take that much pressure off of them having to be a LBJ type.

Bledsoe/Archie
Knight/Booker
Warren/Marcus
PF/Markieff
Len/Wright

I don't have an issue with watching that.
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Re: DEVIN BOOKER 

Post#73 » by RaisingArizona » Fri Jun 26, 2015 9:05 pm

Says he models his game after Rip Hamilton.
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Post#74 » by Sunsss » Fri Jun 26, 2015 9:10 pm

His presser started on suns.com, but I don't see it.
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Post#75 » by RaisingArizona » Fri Jun 26, 2015 9:14 pm

He's going to be #1.
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Post#76 » by RaisingArizona » Fri Jun 26, 2015 9:14 pm

Sunsss wrote:His presser started on suns.com, but I don't see it.


Just ended.
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Re: DEVIN BOOKER 

Post#77 » by tdjm » Fri Jun 26, 2015 9:28 pm

ginobiliflops wrote:He's going to be #1.


Dude it took me like 10 minutes to figure out what you meant by this, I thought you were trying to say after watching his press conference that he was going to be the **** bomb best player ever

It finally dawned on me what you mean, **** I'm dumb
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Re: DEVIN BOOKER 

Post#78 » by thamadkant » Fri Jun 26, 2015 9:51 pm

JMac1 wrote:According to McD on Dough and Wolfe this morning. Archie will have to outplay Booker for playing time. He said it is an open competition between the two of them. I like that



Thats peculiar for McD to say.

1. He's the GM... not the coach.
2. 18 year olds dont get much rotation minutes PERIOD, until the second half of the season when they build up their stamina and body.


If Hornacek said that, I can believe it.


My assumptions.
1. McD usually dont comment on players if they are available for transaction, to prevent other teams removing his leverage.
2. Gerald Green is not going to be resigned... so will Thornton... that means Goodwin and Booker picks up the scrap minutes already, Goodwin already is familiar with the system, so its a no brainer he gets more minutes.
3. McD is shopping Bledsoe.... because Knight, Goodwin, Booker provides a more balanced rotation.
Knight - Leader, can shoot, drive and pass
Goodwin - Long pesky, dynamic slasher who can defend 3 positions
Booker - Specialists shooter, off the ball catch and shoot guy.
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Post#79 » by bigfoot » Fri Jun 26, 2015 10:29 pm

Really liked the Booker presser. Very apparent the kid was well raised by his parents. Articulate, smart, answered the questions very well. Sure doesn't seem like a typical 18 year old.
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Post#80 » by Flying Colors » Fri Jun 26, 2015 10:44 pm

ginobiliflops wrote:He's going to be #1.

Devin Booker is number one!
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