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How the **** does Eubanks stay in the rotation?

There's no reason whatsoever that Thomas can't get some run with this lead. Beal should come out as should Durant. We need all our key players in top shape for the final games and a chance to succeed in the playoffs. Vogel continues to be a moron.

SkyBill40 wrote:There's no reason whatsoever that Thomas can't get some run with this lead. Beal should come out as should Durant. We need all our key players in top shape for the final games and a chance to succeed in the playoffs. Vogel continues to be a moron.

Not to mention the starters seem to take their foot off the gas when up big and the opposing team puts in scrappy bench lineups. Get our bench in and see if they can match the effort/scrappiness.

grumpysaddle wrote:I wish we didn't 'tamper' to get fricking Drew Eubanks. I hate watching him play basketball.

I don't care about the tampering. I care that we were dumb enough to get caught for something literally every team does

Do we not practice passing the fricking basketball? So sloppy and careless with the ball. Pass with purpose, FFS.

Twenty one turnovers. TWENTY ONE. And now our near 30 point lead is soon to be down to single digits because of carelessness and poor defense.

lilfishi22 wrote:

grumpysaddle wrote:I wish we didn't 'tamper' to get fricking Drew Eubanks. I hate watching him play basketball.

I don't care about the tampering. I care that we were dumb enough to get caught for something literally every team does

I'm just mad about Eubanks being on the team. I dislike watching him.

23 turnovers is just unacceptable. I can't think of any other reason for it than the Suns players trying to get Vogel fired. Game after game after game, just turnover after turnover after turnover. No good coach would allow that to continue.

10 is to Allen as 7 is to Book.

Grayson Allen reminds me a little of Danny Ainge. But he was a 3 pt guy who was a general all around decent player/defender. Ainge was the better passer though.

Well I'll be damned.

grumpysaddle wrote:23 turnovers is just unacceptable. I can't think of any other reason for it than the Suns players trying to get Vogel fired. Game after game after game, just turnover after turnover after turnover. No good coach would allow that to continue.

You can’t think of any other reason? Really? I can think of one…it’s called not having a point guard. An issue most predicted the Suns would have back in summer 2023.

Allen is probably responsible for like 4 wins.

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grumpysaddle wrote:23 turnovers is just unacceptable. I can't think of any other reason for it than the Suns players trying to get Vogel fired. Game after game after game, just turnover after turnover after turnover. No good coach would allow that to continue.

You can’t think of any other reason? Really? I can think of one…it’s called not having a point guard. An issue most predicted the Suns would have back in summer 2023.

Meh. A point guard doesn't negate all of the lazy passes from every other player.

bwgood77 wrote:Allen is probably responsible for like 4 wins.

At least that many.

Revived wrote:

grumpysaddle wrote:23 turnovers is just unacceptable. I can't think of any other reason for it than the Suns players trying to get Vogel fired. Game after game after game, just turnover after turnover after turnover. No good coach would allow that to continue.

You can’t think of any other reason? Really? I can think of one…it’s called not having a point guard. An issue most predicted the Suns would have back in summer 2023.

100% agreed. You just know some posters will likely disagree with you.

Kinda nuts to see Roddy looking even bigger than Wainwright

Big 3: 17-11
Book/KD: 12-8
Book/Beal: 3-1
Beal/KD: 4-4
KD: 2-4
Book: 2-1
Beal: 0-0

Total: 40-29

grumpysaddle wrote:

Revived wrote:

grumpysaddle wrote:23 turnovers is just unacceptable. I can't think of any other reason for it than the Suns players trying to get Vogel fired. Game after game after game, just turnover after turnover after turnover. No good coach would allow that to continue.

You can’t think of any other reason? Really? I can think of one…it’s called not having a point guard. An issue most predicted the Suns would have back in summer 2023.

Meh. A point guard doesn't negate all of the lazy passes from every other player.

You'd be surprised how much a competent PG can really just make these bad/lazy passes not happen in the first place because he's the one making the passes.

lilfishi22 wrote:

grumpysaddle wrote:

Revived wrote:You can’t think of any other reason? Really? I can think of one…it’s called not having a point guard. An issue most predicted the Suns would have back in summer 2023.

Meh. A point guard doesn't negate all of the lazy passes from every other player.

You'd be surprised how much a competent PG can really just make these bad/lazy passes not happen in the first place because he's the one making the passes.

I was down for a starting PG but the team would need to be shaken up to make lineups make sense. The lazy passes by all the players should be fixable with the right coaching. That is something that can be drilled, especially over the course of a season. It's obvious at this point that Vogel isn't great at keeping the team focused.