UFC 177 (8/30): Dillashaw vs. Barao II

[Jasen777]

More importantly, the same thing just happened to Barao! He went unconsciousness, and he's now out of the event!

I almost posted earlier when we were all trashing this event - and what happens when Dillashaw gets hurt? But i didn't want to jinx him.

[REDDzone]

lol at the ufc and this ppv and this rematch that should have never been made to begin with.

[Bernman]

I almost posted earlier when we were all trashing this event - and what happens when Dillashaw gets hurt? But i didn't want to jinx him.

Then it goes from unworthy to purchase, to unworthy to watch, period. Either they do the biggest farce for a title fight in UFC history, or Ferguson-Castillo, as the main event. Either way, from one angle or another, that's gotta be the biggest joke of a headliner for a UFC event, pay or free. They could have at least put it on FS2, but maybe there's a cfb conflict with that sport making it's widespread debut this week. That's the drawback of their association with Fox/FS. Not as flexible as they were in the past. This was just terrible planning by the UFC to have a ppv hanging on by a thread like this. And the sad thing, it's not the first, or even second time, recently. Ego is a double-edged sword.

[cowboyronnie]

You guys sound gleeful?

I was really excited to see this. Think of the Barao we saw against Faber and the TJ we saw against...Barao. Head-to-head? We don't get two behemoths like that too often. I was expecting an awesome fight.

[REDDzone]

You guys sound gleeful?

I was really excited to see this. Think of the Barao we saw against Faber and the TJ we saw against...Barao. Head-to-head? We don't get two behemoths like that too often. I was expecting an awesome fight.

I would be lying if I said I wasn't a little smug about it, sure. There was no way I was spending a dime on this event regardless so the fight not happening doesn't affect me in any way.

Maybe, just maybe if the buy rate is low enough, the message that we refuse to pay for garbage on ppv will be heard more clearly than it was for the last 2 garbage ppv events. The ufc brand itself used to make it worth their time, I'm not sure if that's the case anymore.

[blkout]

I'm happy about it. I'd love to have seen the fight but I think the UFC needs some heavy failures one after another to start reevaluating what they're doing because they're completely losing me with this over-saturated dilution of their product.

[CPT]

I would have preferred the fight to happen and the event just fail anyway. Now there's an excuse.

With the main event off and Cejudo's debut the other most interesting thing about this card, I can really just pretend it's not even happening. I wasn't going to watch it live anyway, now I may not watch it at all.

There's a better event next weekend. I can wait.

[Bernman]

Yeah, I don't get the problem with rooting for a greedy, egotistical company who isn't looking out for the consumer right now to fail, fail hard, and fail again. Without a real competitor at this point, that's the only thing that will force them to make adjustments like abolish Fight Pass, TUF, reduce the number of events a little, and improve card quality, especially ones we're supposed to pay for, as a result. If they don't do that they won't survive.

[skflives]

Yeah, I don't get the problem with rooting for a greedy, egotistical company who isn't looking out for the consumer right now to fail, fail hard, and fail again. Without a real competitor at this point, that's the only thing that will force them to make adjustments like abolish Fight Pass, TUF, reduce the number of events a little, and improve card quality, especially ones we're supposed to pay for, as a result. If they don't do that they won't survive.

I don't think they should abolish Fight Pass. I like it and once I get a job I'd pay for it. My big problem with the UFC is the dilution of their events. They are just doing too many damned events. They've spread themselves too thin.

[Bernman]

I don't think they should abolish Fight Pass. I like it and once I get a job I'd pay for it. My big problem with the UFC is the dilution of their events. They are just doing too many damned events. They've spread themselves too thin.

Fight Pass and card dilution are related. Bisping-Le and Woodley-DHK would fortify a lot of events quite a bit. Hell, they'd be main events over Bader-St Preux, and co-mains of a ppv like tomorrow. Fight Pass, TUF, ladies just because Honda is marketable, quantity of events, etc.; are in point of fact diluting card qualities quite substantially.

[NZB2323]

Yeah, I don't get the problem with rooting for a greedy, egotistical company who isn't looking out for the consumer right now to fail, fail hard, and fail again. Without a real competitor at this point, that's the only thing that will force them to make adjustments like abolish Fight Pass, TUF, reduce the number of events a little, and improve card quality, especially ones we're supposed to pay for, as a result. If they don't do that they won't survive.

I agree 100%, but I don't think that greedy is the right word to use. Walmart is the greediest company on the planet but they always think of the customer and treat the customer right. The first rule of any business is the customer is always right. If Walmart ran the UFC we wouldn't be having this problem.

Stupid is the right word. Changes need to be made. Nobody is going to pay money to watch **** fights. With how busy everyone is and all the other entertainment options, the UFC needs to do less cards and have them more stacked. If someone isn't a top 20 fighter, cut them. Make events events again.

[Headliner]

Two years ago I never missed an event, now I could care less about nearly every fight but 2 on the card.
They need to focus on quality not quantity. Enough with these awful cards.
And they need to realize that 125/135 should not headline a ppv yet.

[REDDzone]

Two years ago I never missed an event, now I could care less about nearly every fight but 2 on the card.
They need to focus on quality not quantity. Enough with these awful cards.
And they need to realize that 125/135 should not headline a ppv yet.

The biggest irony of the oversaturation (for me) is that I actually watch far fewer fights. You dudes can attest, I used to watch every fight from top to bottom of every card (there is the obscure prelim commentary in hundreds of threads here to prove it ). Now I just watch the top fight, maybe top two fights of every card. Hell there were two events last weekend and I'm pretty sure I only watched the Benson fight and honestly I wouldn't have watched that if not for the debate over the stoppage. Far less mma than I used to watch, despite 4 times the selection.

[REDDzone]

How pissed is Assuncao right now btw? Dude is the one who deserved the fight from the beginning by far. He beat TJ unlike Barao who was embarrassed in every way by TJ. I bet he could have made the weight.

Also, I didn't realize that Soto had never even fought in the ufc. I assumed he had been fighting on all the crap cards that I haven't been watching lately. Wow! Not a single fight.

[REDDzone]

Dana says Cejudo will either fight at 135 or not fight for the ufc.

[Jasen777]

Dana says Cejudo will either fight at 135 or not fight for the ufc.

At this point I have to think he has some sort of issues other than weight cutting.

[NZB2323]

So what are you guys up to tonight? I thought I'd hit the gym, study a little bit, and go to bed early. It's always good to catch up on sleep.

[GoRapstheoriginal]

Meh, I am not going out, nor am I ordering/paying for it so. No skin off my back.

Might watch UFC and play Marvel Heroes 2015 at the same time, watch some anime or a movie or 2 or something.

Shrugs.

[Jasen777]

So what are you guys up to tonight?

College football.

[Jasen777]

College football.

They just showed a PPV ad for Dillashaw vs. Barao II. The same one they had been showing and without noting the change. It even still had Might Mouse.