Bones into rehab for cocaine??
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This is a weird situation for me because I honestly don't care that he's most likely on **** lol. I just want to see him fight, juice him up to the gills for all I care he's the only truly legit superstar in the UFC at the moment and the only guy I'll get excited about watching.
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REDDzone wrote:I mean, our options are...he either has a serious issue that causes him to cause extremely low levels of testosterone
Poor guy needs some TRT.
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I wonder how Bones even manages to grow that gnarly beard if he has 1/5 the testosterone of a normal man?
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I just read that when Justin Gatlin popped back in 05-06, his ratio was ~ .5 / 1.
I think the most fascinating aspect of this entire thing to me is whether the ufc/nsac decides to test the absolute levels of his b samples in these cases.
I think the most fascinating aspect of this entire thing to me is whether the ufc/nsac decides to test the absolute levels of his b samples in these cases.
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So it looks like Dc was on to something when he talked about Jones strength was much better than expected. Time to put away this cheater. Here's the real catch with these test results: Androstenedione levels shoot from a low of 55 ng/ml to **** 890 ng/ml , that is crazy insane. I will interested in his fight night test...
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Chael said the same thing about Jones. Were results released for that fight?
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blkout wrote:Chael said the same thing about Jones. Were results released for that fight?
Not yet.
edit: Oh nvm for the Chael fight? IDK but I assume so because that is the card Healy tested positive for marijuana on. For ufc 182...not yet.
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da pmp wrote:So it looks like Dc was on to something when he talked about Jones strength was much better than expected. Time to put away this cheater. Here's the real catch with these test results: Androstenedione levels shoot from a low of 55 ng/ml to **** 890 ng/ml , that is crazy insane. I will interested in his fight night test...
Can you put the bolded part in english for us peasants?
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When Dana said "its a great thing that this happened!" you almost wonder if he meant it because people are talking about the cocaine when they should be talking about that sketch as f*ck t:e ratio.
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REDDzone wrote:blkout wrote:Chael said the same thing about Jones. Were results released for that fight?
Not yet.
edit: Oh nvm for the Chael fight? IDK but I assume so because that is the card Healy tested positive for marijuana on. For ufc 182...not yet.
I'd be curious to see if there were any discrepancies, I guess if there were it would have come out at the time. He made a point of talking about how unexpectedly strong he was, so this isn't something that just popped up in the DC fight.
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REDDzone wrote:da pmp wrote:So it looks like Dc was on to something when he talked about Jones strength was much better than expected. Time to put away this cheater. Here's the real catch with these test results: Androstenedione levels shoot from a low of 55 ng/ml to **** 890 ng/ml , that is crazy insane. I will interested in his fight night test...
Can you put the bolded part in english for us peasants?
Andro is a prohormone that strongly effects on the adrenals.it also gets converted into Testosterone elsewhere in the body. He had borderline normals levels early on and than it skyrocketed. This suggests he may have taken something to boost his normal levels back to what they were after they were depleted. It can also mean Synthetic hormones suppressed his natural ability to create it.He could have had a very poor training cycle, no sleep, overtraining which in turn plumetted them to what they were when they were low.Here's a reference for you to take a look. I'm eagerly waiting for his post fight test, that should seal the deal, but on first glance these results show something dirty.
http://www.hemingways.org/GIDinfo/hrt_ref.htm
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So doing a little research since this broke, I guess synthetic epitestosterone IS INDEED a thing. With that said, is the ratio still all they test and not the absolute level of testosterone after events?
No wonder athletes stay so far ahead of commissions and tests...all you would need to do is take an equal unit dose of epi to test in order to keep your ratios within a 6:1 ratio, correct?
No wonder athletes stay so far ahead of commissions and tests...all you would need to do is take an equal unit dose of epi to test in order to keep your ratios within a 6:1 ratio, correct?
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da pmp wrote:REDDzone wrote:da pmp wrote:So it looks like Dc was on to something when he talked about Jones strength was much better than expected. Time to put away this cheater. Here's the real catch with these test results: Androstenedione levels shoot from a low of 55 ng/ml to **** 890 ng/ml , that is crazy insane. I will interested in his fight night test...
Can you put the bolded part in english for us peasants?
Andro is a prohormone that strongly effects on the adrenals.it also gets converted into Testosterone elsewhere in the body. He had borderline normals levels early on and than it skyrocketed. This suggests he may have taken something to boost his normal levels back to what they were after they were depleted. It can also mean Synthetic hormones suppressed his natural ability to create it.He could have had a very poor training cycle, no sleep, overtraining which in turn plumetted them to what they were when they were low.Here's a reference for you to take a look. I'm eagerly waiting for his post fight test, that should seal the deal, but on first glance these results show something dirty.
http://www.hemingways.org/GIDinfo/hrt_ref.htm
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You heard the man, da pmp
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So we should expect him to throw spinning back limp wrists in the future?
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blkout wrote:You heard the man, da pmp
I just meant in general. I'd be interested to hear his thoughts on possible reasons for the ratio being so off.
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Yeah I know, I was seconding your command lol people with brains are always welcome here.
I'm not a scientist but I wonder if cheap shots at the bell followed by crotch chops are a known side effect of coking yourself up to the eyeballs when you're on PEDs before a fight
I'm not a scientist but I wonder if cheap shots at the bell followed by crotch chops are a known side effect of coking yourself up to the eyeballs when you're on PEDs before a fight
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Good article here I found on reddit: http://www.subjectmma.com/explained-jon ... t-scandal/
Lots of super sketchy stuff going on with the fuc and nsac, the author brings up good points. The tests were just tucked away and left alone until a reporter called asking for the results and they had to disclose since its public record in NE? Would we have ever heard, otherwise?
Lots of super sketchy stuff going on with the fuc and nsac, the author brings up good points. The tests were just tucked away and left alone until a reporter called asking for the results and they had to disclose since its public record in NE? Would we have ever heard, otherwise?
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Cocaine is very bad thing from the point of moral and heakth, but what do you think about his short effect? If, say, Bones was on cocaine during the fight wth DC, it would increase his odds of winning or decrease ?
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Gregoire wrote:Cocaine is very bad thing from the point of moral and heakth, but what do you think about his short effect? If, say, Bones was on cocaine during the fight wth DC, it would increase his odds of winning or decrease ?
IDK about DC/Bones but let's say you and I were going to fight, I would much rather fight gregoire than coked up gregoire, for sure.
That said, the dude wasn't on coke during the fight.
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