WWE Network Thread

[Dunthreevy]

Alright, so last night seems to be a bit of a turning point in the minds of pretty much everyone here on the board. Aside from 1 person, it appears that everyone is pretty fed up with WWE's decision making, nearly across the board. Considering the Network starts up in less than a month, I think they picked a pretty bad time to alienate a large chunk of their fans. Hit up the poll so we've got concrete numbers to gauge. It's all about numbers!!

Also keep in mind that we don't know what we want. Vince McMahon will tell us what we want. He flat out told us so on an episode of RAW a year or so ago. At the time it was looked at by some as "wow he's really heeling it up out there." In reality, he wasn't kidding or playing a role, at all.

[Starkiller]

LMMFAO @ option 5.

I was very close to getting the network, after last night I am waiting to see how things pan out. If it coniutes this path, I will not. So yes, you can directly contribute the pushing of Batista to me not wanting to spend money on the product.

[Dunthreevy]

LMMFAO @ option 5.

I was very close to getting the network, after last night I am waiting to see how things pan out. If it coniutes this path, I will not. So yes, you can directly contribute the pushing of Batista to me not wanting to spend money on the product.

I feel the same way. As of this moment, I don't plan on subscribing to the Network. If you would have asked me 24 hours ago I would have to you that I was going to subscribe. Last night seems like such a slap in the face that I can't bring myself to do anything that will benefit the decision makers at WWE in any way. I'm sure I'll probably cool off a little between now and February 24th, but that's going to depend on the results of the next few episodes of RAW, which I will read here.

[whysoserious]

LMAO Dunthreavy....I'm thinking option 5 works out.

I probably won't. First it's not even available in Canad so the choice is not even mine at this point. But also, I had WWE On Demand up here and it was so much repetitive content.

Plus the internet plans up here for downloadable content would be killer in addition to paying WWE whatever it costs to stream. I'll just catch what WWE content on I want on Netflix and on cable.

I had given up on WWE up until the Summer of Punk and they're slowly just pushing me away again.

[Dunthreevy]

LMAO Dunthreavy....I'm thinking option 5 works out.

I probably won't. First it's not even available in Canad so the choice is not even mine at this point. But also, I had WWE On Demand up here and it was so much repetitive content.

Plus the internet plans up here for downloadable content would be killer in addition to paying WWE whatever it costs to stream. I'll just catch what WWE content on I want on Netflix and on cable.

I had given up on WWE up until the Summer of Punk and they're slowly just pushing me away again.

I had the On Demand subscription for about 6 months a couple years ago and dropped it for the same reason. Very limited amount of things to watch and a lot of it wasn't stuff I wanted to sit through anyway. Had Hulu Plus for about a year before I dropped it, for the same reason. I just couldn't justify paying $8/month to watch NXT.

[WRau1]

I would've bought it without question before last night's PPV but with Batista winning the Rumble and the landscape of how things are looking, at this point right now, I don't think I will. That could change depending on what happens between now and Chamber.

[skbucks1985]

I still think I probably would. Especially in the first 6 months, its just such a value. Wrestlemania, MITB, Summerslam I would get all of those plus the tape library. The question for me, and I don't think there is an insignificant number of people who share my view, is would I renew. Because those next 6 months are the Rumble and a bunch of b-PPV's (yes, Survivor Series falls into that category now) and I will have pretty much seen everything I wanted to see in the tape library.

[studcrackers]

prior to last night i was a definite yes, probably still am, but safi makes a great point about not renewing after summerslam, especially if we have to put up w/the garbage that's occurred since the event

[Celtics_Champs]

Just for the library now.

[heatwillbeback]

Yes for the old WCE, ECW, and WWE ppv's

after the six months though, who knows.

[NeedsMoreCheese]

i was in the definite yes group before, now i probably will still do it but not as excited about it as i was before. Being able to get all the PPVs at an affordable rate was a large part of the appeal, but with the issues with the current product that appeal has lessened considerably.

[J0rdan4life42o]

For WWE's sake, I would hope they have enough business sense to make the Network's older content a limited library that's rotated periodically, rather than streaming it all at once. I am sure a large contingent of their subscribers will be signing up for the older content rather than what their current product offers. What's to stop a fan from viewing as much of the older footage as they could within the first 6 months and then cancel their subscription? Gradually making the older footage available will keep the fans of the older WWE hooked, while giving them time to try and sell them on what their current product offers. The fans of the current product will subscribe regardless due to the cheapness of the PPVs.

[Sebastian]

I'll subscribe since I'm currently going through an Attitude Era rewatch and it would be nice to have better quality episodes of RAW available.

Also all the territorial content will probably be worth the price by itself.

The fact that the PPVs are thrown in there is a nice bonus.

[NeedsMoreCheese]

For WWE's sake, I would hope they have enough business sense to make the Network's older content a limited library that's rotated periodically, rather than streaming it all at once. I am sure a large contingent of their subscribers will be signing up for the older content rather than what their current product offers. What's to stop a fan from viewing as much of the older footage as they could within the first 6 months and then cancel their subscription? Gradually making the older footage available will keep the fans of the older WWE hooked, while giving them time to try and sell them on what their current product offers. The fans of the current product will subscribe regardless due to the cheapness of the PPVs.

From what i read it sounded like not all the content would be available at all times, they're going to have some sort of rotation as you suggested. I didn't see any details as to what that would look like though. But i assume it'll be a Netflix type thing where every so often they put up "new" content and remove other content. As long as they announce when they're doing that and what content is being added/removed it should work out well.

[Brandon-Clyde]

For those upset with the WWE's current storylines this is a great way to let them know how upset you are. E-mail the WWE and tell them why you are not willing to buy the WWE network at this time and tell them what they must do to get your hard earned dollars

[kblo247]

This official ppv list that's available from day one is why

WWE:
WrestleMania
The Wrestling Classic (1985)
WrestleMania 2
The Big Event (1986)
WrestleMania III
Survivor Series (1987)
Royal Rumble (1988)
WrestleMania IV
SummerSlam (1988)
Survivor Series (1988)
Royal Rumble (1989)
WrestleMania V
SummerSlam (1989)
Survivor Series (1989)
Royal Rumble (1990)
WrestleMania VI
SummerSlam (1990)
Survivor Series (1990)
Royal Rumble (1991)
WrestleMania VII
SummerSlam (1991)
Survivor Series (1991)
This Tuesday in Texas (1991)
Royal Rumble (1992)
WrestleMania VIII
SummerSlam (1992)
Survivor Series (1992)
Royal Rumble (1993)
WrestleMania IX
King of the Ring (1993)
SummerSlam (1993)
Survivor Series (1993)
Royal Rumble (1994)
WrestleMania X
King of the Ring (1994)
SummerSlam (1994)
Survivor Series (1994)
Royal Rumble (1995)
WrestleMania XI
In Your House #1 (1995)
King of the Ring (1995)
In Your House #2 (1995)
SummerSlam (1995)
In Your House #3 (1995)
In Your House # 4 (1995)
Survivor Series (1995)
In Your House # 5 (1995)
Royal Rumble (1996)
In Your House # 6 (1996)
WrestleMania XII
In Your House # 7 - Good Friends, Better Enemies (1996)
In Your House # 8 - Beware of Dog (1996)
King of the Ring (1996)
In Your House # 9 - International Incident (1996)
SummerSlam (1996)
In Your House # 10 - Mind Games (1996)
In Your House # 11 - Buried Alive (1996)
Survivor Series (1996)
In Your House # 12 - It's Time (1996)
Royal Rumble (1997)
In Your House #13 - Final Four (1997)
WrestleMania 13
In Your House # 14 - Revenge of the Taker (1997)
In Your House # 15 - A Cold Day in Hell (1997)
King of the Ring (1997)
In Your House # 16 - Canadian Stampede (1997)
SummerSlam (1997)
Ground Zero: In Your House (1997)
One Night Only (UK) (1997)
Badd Blood: In Your House (1997)
Survivor Series (1997)
Degeneration X: In Your House (1997)
Royal Rumble (1998)
No Way Out: In Your House (1998)
WrestleMania XIV
Unforgiven: In Your House (1998)
Over the Edge: In Your House (1998)
King of the Ring (1998)
Fully Loaded: In Your House (1998)
SummerSlam (1998)
Breakdown: In Your House (1998)
Judgment Day: In Your House (1998)
Survivor Series (1998)
Capital Carnage (UK only) (1998)
Rock Bottom: In Your House (1998)
Royal Rumble (1999)
St. Valentine's Day Massacre: In Your House (1999)
WrestleMania XV
Backlash: In Your House (1999)
No Mercy (UK only) (1999)
Over the Edge (1999)
King of the Ring (1999)
Fully Loaded (1999)
SummerSlam (1999)
Unforgiven (1999)
Rebellion (UK only) (1999)
No Mercy (1999)
Survivor Series (1999)
Armageddon (1999)
Royal Rumble (2000)
No Way Out (2000)
WrestleMania 2000 (16)
Backlash (2000)
Insurrextion (UK only) (2000)
Judgment Day (2000)
King of the Ring (2000)
Fully Loaded (2000)
SummerSlam (2000)
Unforgiven (2000)
No Mercy (2000)
Survivor Series (2000)
Rebellion (UK only) (2000)
Armageddon (2000)
Royal Rumble (2001)
No Way Out (2001)
WrestleMania X-Seven
Backlash (2001)
Insurrextion (UK only) (2001)
Judgment Day (2001)
King of the Ring (2001)
Invasion (2001)
SummerSlam (2001)
Unforgiven (2001)
No Mercy (2001)
Rebellion (UK only) (2001)
Survivor Series (2001)
Vengeance (2001)
Royal Rumble (2002)
No Way Out (2002)
WrestleMania X8
Backlash (2002)
Insurrextion (UK only) (2002)
Judgment Day (2002)
King of the Ring (2002)
Vengeance (2002)
SummerSlam (2002)
Unforgiven (2002)
No Mercy (2002)
Rebellion (UK only) (2002)
Survivor Series (2002)
Armageddon (2002)
Royal Rumble (2003)
No Way Out (2003)
WrestleMania XIX
Backlash (2003)
Judgment Day (2003)
Insurrextion (UK only) (2003)
Bad Blood (2003)
Vengeance (2003)
SummerSlam (2003)
Unforgiven (2003)
No Mercy (2003)
Survivor Series (2003)
Armageddon (2003)
Royal Rumble (2004)
No Way Out (2004)
WrestleMania XX
Backlash (2004)
Judgment Day (2004)
Bad Blood (2004)
The Great American Bash (2004)
Vengeance (2004)
SummerSlam (2004)
Unforgiven (2004)
No Mercy (2004)
Taboo Tuesday (2004)
Survivor Series (2004)
Armageddon (2004)
New Year's Revolution (2005)
Royal Rumble (2005)
No Way Out (2005)
WrestleMania 21
Backlash (2005)
Judgment Day (2005)
Vengeance (2005)
The Great American Bash (2005)
SummerSlam (2005)
Unforgiven (2005)
No Mercy (2005)
Taboo Tuesday (2005)
Survivor Series (2005)
Armageddon (2005)
New Year's Revolution (2006)
Royal Rumble (2006)
No Way Out (2006)
WrestleMania 22
Backlash (2006)
Judgment Day (2006)
Vengeance (2006)
The Great American Bash (2006)
SummerSlam (2006)
Unforgiven (2006)
No Mercy (2006)
Cyber Sunday (2006)
Survivor Series (2006)
Armageddon (2006)
New Year's Revolution (2007)
Royal Rumble (2007)
No Way Out (2007)
WrestleMania 23
Backlash (2007)
Judgment Day (2007)
One Night Stand (2007)
Vengeance: Night of Champions (2007)
The Great American Bash (2007)
SummerSlam (2007)
Unforgiven (2007)
No Mercy (2007)
Cyber Sunday (2007)
Survivor Series (2007)
Armageddon (2007)
Royal Rumble (2008)
No Way Out (2008)
WrestleMania XXIV
Backlash (2008)
Judgment Day (2008)
One Night Stand (2008)
Night of Champions (2008)
The Great American Bash (2008)
SummerSlam (2008)
Unforgiven (2008)
No Mercy (2008)
Cyber Sunday (2008)
Survivor Series (2008)
Armageddon (2008)
Royal Rumble (2009)
Now Way Out (2009)
WrestleMania XXV
Backlash (2009)
Judgment Day (2009)
Extreme Rules (2009)
The Bash (2009)
Night of Champions (2009)
SummerSlam (2009)
Breaking Point (2009)
Hell in a Cell (2009)
Bragging Rights (2009)
Survivor Series (2009)
WWE TLC: Tables, Ladders & Chairs (2009)
Royal Rumble (2010)
Elimination Chamber (2010)
WrestleMania XXVI
Extreme Rules (2010)
Over the Limit (2010)
Fatal 4-Way (2010)
Money in the Bank (2010)
SummerSlam (2010)
Night of Champions (2010)
Hell in a Cell (2010)
Bragging Rights (2010)
Survivor Series (2010)
WWE TLC: Tables, Ladders & Chairs (2010)
Royal Rumble (2011)
Elimination Chamber (2011)
WrestleMania XXVII
Extreme Rules (2011)
Over the Limit (2011)
Capitol Punishment (2011)
Money in the Bank (2011)
SummerSlam (2011)
Night of Champions (2011)
Hell in a Cell (2011)
Vengeance (2011)
Survivor Series (2011)
WWE TLC: Tables, Ladders & Chairs (2011)
Royal Rumble (2012)
Elimination Chamber (2012)
WrestleMania XXVIII
Extreme Rules (2012)
Over The Limit (2012)
No Way Out (2012)
Money in the Bank (2012)
SummerSlam (2012)
Night of Champions (2012)
Hell in a Cell (2012)
Survivor Series (2012)
WWE TLC: Tables, Ladders & Chairs (2012)
Royal Rumble (2013)
Elimination Chamber (2013)
WrestleMania 29
Extreme Rules (2013)
WWE Payback (2013)
Money in the Bank (2013)
SummerSlam (2013)
Night of Champions (2013)
WWE Battleground (2013)
Hell in a Cell (2013)
Survivor Series (2013)
WWE TLC: Tables, Ladders & Chairs (2013)
Royal Rumble (2014)

WCW:
Starrcade '83
Starrcade '84
Starrcade '85
Starrcade '86
Starrcade '87
Bunkhouse Stampede (1988)
The Great American Bash (1988)
Starrcade '88
Chi-Town Rumble (1989)
WrestleWar '89
The Great American Bash '89
Halloween Havoc '89
Starrcade '89
WrestleWar '90
Capital Combat '90
The Great American Bash (1990)
Halloween Havoc (1990)
Starrcade '90
WrestleWar '91
SuperBrawl (1991)
The Great American Bash (1991)
Halloween Havoc (1991)
Starrcade '91
SuperBrawl II
WrestleWar '92
Beach Blast (1992)
The Great American Bash (1992)
Halloween Havoc (1992)
Starrcade (1992)
SuperBrawl III
Slamboree (1993)
Beach Blast (1993)
Fall Brawl (1993)
Halloween Havoc (1993)
BattleBowl (1993)
Starrcade (1993)
SuperBrawl IV
Spring Stampede (1994)
Slamboree (1994)
Bash at the Beach (1994)
Fall Brawl (1994)
Halloween Havoc (1994)
Starrcade (1994)
SuperBrawl V
Uncensored (1995)
Slamboree (1995)
The Great American Bash (1995)
Bash at the Beach (1995)
Fall Brawl (1995)
Halloween Havoc (1995)
World War 3 (1995)
Starrcade (1995)
SuperBrawl VI
Uncensored (1996)
Slamboree (1996)
The Great American Bash (1996)
Bash at the Beach (1996)
Hog Wild (1996)
Fall Brawl (1996)
Halloween Havoc (1996)
World War 3 (1996)
Starrcade (1996)
Souled Out (1997)
SuperBrawl VII
Uncensored (1997)
Spring Stampede (1997)
Slamboree (1997)
The Great American Bash (1997)
Bash at the Beach (1997)
Road Wild (1997)
Fall Brawl (1997)
Halloween Havoc (1997)
World War 3 (1997)
Starrcade (1997)
Souled Out (1998)
SuperBrawl VIII
Uncensored (1998)
Spring Stampede (1998)
Slamboree (1998)
The Great American Bash (1998)
Bash at the Beach (1998)
Road Wild (1998)
Fall Brawl (1998)
Halloween Havoc (1998)
World War 3 (1998)
Starrcade (1998)
Souled Out (1999)
SuperBrawl IX
Uncensored (1999)
Spring Stampede (1999)
Slamboree (1999)
The Great American Bash (1999)
Bash at the Beach (1999)
Road Wild (1999)
Fall Brawl (1999)
Halloween Havoc (1999)
Mayhem (1999)
Starrcade (1999)
Souled Out (2000)
SuperBrawl 2000
Uncensored (2000)
Spring Stampede (2000)
Slamboree (2000)
The Great American Bash (2000)
Bash at the Beach (2000)
New Blood Rising (2000)
Fall Brawl (2000)
Halloween Havoc (2000)
Mayhem (2000)
Starrcade (2000)
Sin (2001)
SuperBrawl Revenge (2001)
Greed (2001)

ECW:
Barely Legal
Hardcore Heaven '97
November to Remember '97
Living Dangerously '98
Wrestlepalooza '98
Heatwave '98
November to Remember '98
Guilty as Charged '99
Living Dangerously '99
Hardcore Heaven '99
Heatwave '99
Anarchy Rulz '99
November to Remember '99
Guilty as Charged 2000
Living Dangerously 2000
Hardcore Heaven 2000
Heatwave 2000
Anarchy Rulz 2000
November to Remember 2000
Massacre on 34th St. 2000
Guilty as Charged 2001
ECW One Night Stand (2005)
ECW One Night Stand (2006)
December to Dismember (2006)

[studcrackers]

interestingly enough, it will air over the edge 99 which was the one where owen hart died. curious how they edit that, as ive never seen the show

[SDM]

interestingly enough, it will air over the edge 99 which was the one where owen hart died. curious how they edit that, as ive never seen the show

I saw it live, albeit on scrambled PPV. From what I remember, the scene started with a crowd shot with an abrupt cut to an awkward backstage promo with Jarrett. Later I learned that this promo was planned for later in the night, but they moved it up so that they could get Owen out of the ring. Until the next match started, they alternated between crowd shots (they were stunned... or from what I could tell from the scramble) and JR, who mentioned that Owen had an accident and that none of this is part of the scheduled entertainment, etc. The next match was a Val Venis match and both guys just worked through it with their hearts clearly not in it, I remember JR not giving a **** and speaking in hushed tones. A little after the match, JR announced that Owen was dead. I remember the period between the backstage promo and the Venis match starting feeling much longer than it actually was... it was really confusing to follow and at first it looked like they were planning to end the show, but obviously went back on that idea.

I'm guessing they'll cut out the fan shots + JR's immediate reaction and re-shoot commentary for the matches that occurred after the incident.

(though I could be wrong on this... it was 15 years ago)

[studcrackers]

They never actually aired the fall though right?

[SDM]

They never actually aired the fall though right?

No. I would wager a guess that they don't even have footage of it, since nothing has leaked. If a fan took a video too, it would have materialized online.