Greatest Face And Heel Of All Time.

jade_hippo · Post #21 » by **jade_hippo** » Thu Mar 13, 2014 3:40 am

I like heels who stayed heels for long runs, was Ted ever a face after he became the Million Dollar Man? Thats got to amount for something. I want to toss out the Freebirds because in some places those guys were so hated they had to be snuck in and out of the arena because fans wanted to beat them up.

Post #22 » by **studcrackers** » Thu Mar 13, 2014 5:27 am

whysoserious wrote:Let me say that Hogans heel turn was probably the single greatest turn ever ( despite Heenan kind of screwing up the call ) but i dont see him as a great heel. He was good for a brief period but it got stale after a while to because WCW screwed up the exit strategy from the NWO angle. I get why people think of him in that category but a lot of it was the NWO angle and the outsiders as well. Just my two cents on Hogan as a heel.

man i watched that a few nights ago after only having seen it in passing w/o every paying attention to the heenan call, and finding out years later how pissed everyone was at him for saying that (rightfully so) but god damn was it amazing

also tony schiavone's call of "Hulk Hogan, you can go to hell! We're outta here. Straight to hell." is hilarious

Wo1verine · Post #23 » by **Wo1verine** » Thu Mar 13, 2014 8:53 am

Face:

Heel:

Thunder Muscle · Post #24 » by **Thunder Muscle** » Thu Mar 13, 2014 7:51 pm

Face: Hogan, Warrior (He was REALLY over in that 89-91 period), Cena (for younger audience), Bret Hart.
Heel: Million Dollar Man, Jake The Snake Roberts (1991-92), Sgt Slaughter had a TON of heat in 1991. I thought Jericho was always an underrated heel.

I agree that Rock, Austin, Taker, etc are tough guys to put in either category. Even Macho Man was good as both.

Thunder Muscle · Post #25 » by **Thunder Muscle** » Thu Mar 13, 2014 7:56 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbAqainO76Q[/youtube]

whysoserious · Post #26 » by **whysoserious** » Thu Mar 13, 2014 8:59 pm

studcrackers wrote:
whysoserious wrote:Let me say that Hogans heel turn was probably the single greatest turn ever ( despite Heenan kind of screwing up the call ) but i dont see him as a great heel. He was good for a brief period but it got stale after a while to because WCW screwed up the exit strategy from the NWO angle. I get why people think of him in that category but a lot of it was the NWO angle and the outsiders as well. Just my two cents on Hogan as a heel.

man i watched that a few nights ago after only having seen it in passing w/o every paying attention to the heenan call, and finding out years later how pissed everyone was at him for saying that (rightfully so) but god damn was it amazing

also tony schiavone's call of "Hulk Hogan, you can go to hell! We're outta here. Straight to hell." is hilarious

They sold that thing beautifully. Even with Heenan's misstep it is still an awesome moment and it didn't hurt them overall. It was the perfect storm, it's just sad the effed up the exit strategy from the NWO angle and added too many guys to it. They never even needed Bischoff to turn and join that group, DiBiase was a great mouthpiece but they didn't even really need him long-term. They need at most 4 maybe 5 guys.

Post #27 » by **Marcus** » Thu Mar 13, 2014 9:19 pm

studcrackers wrote:
whysoserious wrote:Let me say that Hogans heel turn was probably the single greatest turn ever ( despite Heenan kind of screwing up the call ) but i dont see him as a great heel. He was good for a brief period but it got stale after a while to because WCW screwed up the exit strategy from the NWO angle. I get why people think of him in that category but a lot of it was the NWO angle and the outsiders as well. Just my two cents on Hogan as a heel.

man i watched that a few nights ago after only having seen it in passing w/o every paying attention to the heenan call, and finding out years later how pissed everyone was at him for saying that (rightfully so) but god damn was it amazing

also tony schiavone's call of "Hulk Hogan, you can go to hell! We're outta here. Straight to hell." is hilarious

I never thought Heenan really made a mistake. He was always against Hogan for years so it always seemed normal to me.

whysoserious · Post #28 » by **whysoserious** » Thu Mar 13, 2014 10:10 pm

Marcus wrote:
studcrackers wrote:
whysoserious wrote:Let me say that Hogans heel turn was probably the single greatest turn ever ( despite Heenan kind of screwing up the call ) but i dont see him as a great heel. He was good for a brief period but it got stale after a while to because WCW screwed up the exit strategy from the NWO angle. I get why people think of him in that category but a lot of it was the NWO angle and the outsiders as well. Just my two cents on Hogan as a heel.

man i watched that a few nights ago after only having seen it in passing w/o every paying attention to the heenan call, and finding out years later how pissed everyone was at him for saying that (rightfully so) but god damn was it amazing

also tony schiavone's call of "Hulk Hogan, you can go to hell! We're outta here. Straight to hell." is hilarious

I never thought Heenan really made a mistake. He was always against Hogan for years so it always seemed normal to me.

It wasn't that big of a deal, especially to most fans. But for those that followed closely, it did take a little away from Hogan dropping the leg on (I believe it was) Savage. It was a big deal in WCW, or was made to be in that moment. But it didn't end up hurting the segment and Hogan still delivered one heck of a heel promo following it up.

SpReEfOrAlL · Post #29 » by **SpReEfOrAlL** » Thu Mar 13, 2014 11:50 pm

I always thought Edge was an amazing heel

Post #30 » by **studcrackers** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 12:06 am

he got some nuclear heat when the hardy/edge saga played out

Thunder Muscle · Post #31 » by **Thunder Muscle** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 12:07 pm

studcrackers wrote:he got some nuclear heat when the hardy/edge saga played out

I remember really being into that storyline and then it lead to a terribly booked match at I believe SummerSlam 2005 where like Hardy got DQ'd or Counted Out. It had a huge build but the pay-off was disappointing imo.

suntzuballin · Post #32 » by **suntzuballin** » Sun Mar 16, 2014 7:55 pm

face:1-2-3 kid
heel:syxx

Post #33 » by **Cyrus** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 5:27 am

I lean towards the 80's wrestlers:

Thought Jake the snake heel turn was amazing, just the psychological games he played.

Heel: Jake the Snake, and Ravishing Rick Rude. Both truly under-rated. Is Rick Rude in the hall yet?

Post #34 » by **pduh01** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 7:08 am

[quote="Cyrus"
Is Rick Rude in the hall yet?[/quote]

Nope not yet.

But Jake is going to be in the Hall this year.

kblo247 · Post #35 » by **kblo247** » Tue Mar 18, 2014 5:32 am

Face
Wrestling in general - Hogan
WWF - Austin

Hell
Wrestling in general - Flair
WWE - Triple H

tugs · Post #36 » by **tugs** » Wed Mar 19, 2014 5:18 am

regarding JBL, yeah he was a perfect fit as a heel and I despised him so much. I always thougt, "How can a man with a big belly be this good?!" :lol:

he had great storylines with Eddie (RIP), Rey, and Cena. and his stable suits his gimmick very well.

aside from the obvious picks, I'd probably wanted some of these wrestlers to have longer heel moments/or turned:

-JoMo
-RTruth
-Kofi (Randy feud)
-Justin Gabriel (looks bad ass back in Nexus)

I'd also mention Y2J.

Post #37 » by **studcrackers** » Wed Mar 19, 2014 6:15 am

r-truth turned heel right as i started watching on a consistent basis again and i legitimately enjoyed him as heel truth. the entrance was badass and some of the promos he had were f*cking gold.

the opening promo to capital punishment 2011 is phenomenal

Post #38 » by **Marcus** » Wed Mar 19, 2014 3:29 pm

studcrackers wrote:r-truth turned heel right as i started watching on a consistent basis again and i legitimately enjoyed him as heel truth. the entrance was badass and some of the promos he had were f*cking gold.

the opening promo to capital punishment 2011 is phenomenal

Heel R-Truth is the only Truth i've ever been able to stand and actually thoroughly enjoyed. they really needed to keep going with that.

skbucks1985 · Post #39 » by **skbucks1985** » Wed Mar 19, 2014 7:28 pm

I remember when he came out dressed like a confederate general, that was one of the funniest things I've ever seen in a wrestling ring.

juice4080 · Post #40 » by **juice4080** » Thu Mar 20, 2014 9:25 pm

Jake The Snake heel run in 91-92 was the best f*****g thing i ever watched......wrestling will never be this good and believable again