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AEW x NJPW Forbidden Door Discussion
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2022 7:40 pm
by iMoreland
Chris Jericho, Minoru Suzuki, & Sammy Guevara vs Eddie Kingston, Shota Umino, & Wheeler Yuta
The Young Bucks & Bullet Club (Matt Jackson, Nick Jackson, El Phantasmo, & Hikuleo) vs. Darby Allin, Sting & Los Ingobernables de Japon (Shingo Takagi and Hiromu Takahashi)
Zack Sabre Jr vs An opponent of Bryan Danielson's choosing
IWGP United States Heavyweight Championship
Will Ospreay (c) vs Orange Cassidy
AEW All-Atlantic Championship
Clark Connors vs Malakai Black vs Miro vs Pac
IWGP Tag Team & ROH Tag Team Championship
FTR (c) vs United Empire (c) vs Roppongi Vice
AEW Women's World Championship
Thunder Rosa (c) vs Toni Storm
AEW Interim World Championship
Hiroshi Tanahashi vs Jon Moxley
IWGP World Heavyweight Championship
Jay White (c) vs Adam Cole vs "Hangman" Adam Page vs Kazuchika Okada
Re: AEW x NJPW Forbidden Door Discussion
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2022 11:28 pm
by slickrickstyles
With the insane amount of injuries and the lack of information for domestic fans that are not familiar with NJPW and their roster I worry that this is going to bomb bad...Rampage just had it's lowest ratings ever last week and Dynamite is not holding well during this build either.
Re: AEW x NJPW Forbidden Door Discussion
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 1:46 am
by Dominator83
slickrickstyles wrote:With the insane amount of injuries and the lack of information for domestic fans that are not familiar with NJPW and their roster I worry that this is going to bomb bad...Rampage just had it's lowest ratings ever last week and Dynamite is not holding well during this build either.
Well I already have my tickets so there's no turning back for me lol. But I still feel like it will atleast be entrrtaining to watch. Now it looks like Okada will atleast be in action. But yea we need like a surprise Kenny Omega return and face Niato or something to really deliver
Re: AEW x NJPW Forbidden Door Discussion
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 12:43 pm
by Lord Eder
I feel like the problem with the build to this one is that AEW too often goes for the surprise shock value. The people in the arena seem to pop for whoever comes out unexpectedly but I'm sure there's tons at home, myself included, who are just lost on who these people are and why I should be excited. There should've been vignettes leading up but rather they seem to be going for the pop.
With that said, this is a cool idea and show, it's introduced me to some wrestlers that I'll probably be interested in from here out. Just think it could've been handled better for someone more 'casual' like me. Not sure if the ratings reflect this feeling, I know they've been up against the finals of the NBA as well as the NHL, that could also have something to do with it. Like I missed Malakai-Penta last night because I got lost in the hockey game and that was the match I was looking forward to this week.
Re: AEW x NJPW Forbidden Door Discussion
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 6:33 pm
by heatwillbeback
The one match I don’t understand at all is Thunder Rosa/Storm. It just doesn’t fit the point of this show.
I would have preferred a competent NJPW female wrestler and to save Storm/Rosa for another time.
I’m looking forward to this one. Watching at a local AMC theater.
Re: AEW x NJPW Forbidden Door Discussion
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 7:15 pm
by slickrickstyles
Lord Eder wrote:I feel like the problem with the build to this one is that AEW too often goes for the surprise shock value. The people in the arena seem to pop for whoever comes out unexpectedly but I'm sure there's tons at home, myself included, who are just lost on who these people are and why I should be excited. There should've been vignettes leading up but rather they seem to be going for the pop.
With that said, this is a cool idea and show, it's introduced me to some wrestlers that I'll probably be interested in from here out. Just think it could've been handled better for someone more 'casual' like me. Not sure if the ratings reflect this feeling, I know they've been up against the finals of the NBA as well as the NHL, that could also have something to do with it. Like I missed Malakai-Penta last night because I got lost in the hockey game and that was the match I was looking forward to this week.
Dont use the term "casual" around social media...Dear god the iwc trolls will rip you a part that there is no such thing as a casual fan etc...Uh yeah there is and I know lots of people who only watch from time to time...Hell some that don't even realize AEW exists and just think that certain guys retired I am sure. I love that AEW exists and we needed a real alternative bad but the pretentious nature of expecting everyone to do their own research or to expect everyone to just know about your product is it's biggest issue.
Re: AEW x NJPW Forbidden Door Discussion
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 7:16 pm
by slickrickstyles
heatwillbeback wrote:The one match I don’t understand at all is Thunder Rosa/Storm. It just doesn’t fit the point of this show.
I would have preferred a competent NJPW female wrestler and to save Storm/Rosa for another time.
I’m looking forward to this one. Watching at a local AMC theater.
It was just to get the females on the card I am sure. What is more damaging is the fact that there isn't a single african american on the show and AEW has always had issues with bait and switch representation.
Re: AEW x NJPW Forbidden Door Discussion
Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:00 am
by Lord Eder
This has been a phenomenal show so far
Re: AEW x NJPW Forbidden Door Discussion
Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:19 am
by Dubious Handles
the first three matches are amazing so far. That championship watch was awesome!! PAC deserves it and they set up Miro vs. Malakai
Re: AEW x NJPW Forbidden Door Discussion
Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2022 2:21 am
by Dubious Handles
AEW PPVs never disappoint
Re: AEW x NJPW Forbidden Door Discussion
Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2022 5:24 am
by Dominator83
The 4 way for the IWGP was the match of the night IMO
Re: AEW x NJPW Forbidden Door Discussion
Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2022 7:28 am
by tugs
Was that a botched finish, though? Cole suddenly fell and dodged the Rainmaker and Jay pinned him instead of Okada?
Re: AEW x NJPW Forbidden Door Discussion
Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:54 am
by Dubious Handles
tugs wrote:Was that a botched finish, though? Cole suddenly fell and dodged the Rainmaker and Jay pinned him instead of Okada?
Looked like it. AC got injured so they had to abruptly end the match
Re: AEW x NJPW Forbidden Door Discussion
Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2022 12:01 pm
by heatwillbeback
High quality wrestling PPV for sure.
One qualm I have is the end. Forbidden Door to me is bigger than Blood and Guts. I don’t like using the end of a big PPV to advertise and build for a tv match. Which also left Tahahashi completely out of place.
Not to mention the Chicago crowd wanted somebody very specific to show up, and it wasn’t Jericho
Re: AEW x NJPW Forbidden Door Discussion
Posted: Thu Jul 7, 2022 6:38 am
by Dr Positivity
Shame about the ending to the 4 way since that was a great match. I had a hard time getting into the main event after that and the Cesaro match.
Jay White would be a nice WWE signing, you could tell immediately the storyline that this dirty little weasel stole the title from babyface Okada. Small for main roster but maybe NXT champ. I was also surprised to see born in 1992.