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This happened moments ago at the Heat board. They're still not over it. The Cronin comment got a few And1's too.

marson wrote:Jrue holiday is a thorn defensively. Cronin fkd us hard and the Bucks at the same time

DorianRo wrote:Time to blow it up Miami. Weak ass team we got. G-league squad

Heat fans in a nutshell:

Still want a ring for Dame, but glad the Blazers cashed out on his value when they did. There’s no more his value could have gone up and injuries are starting to be more of a thing for him than they ever have been due to age…

Dame also learned the lesson he preached for ages, grass isn’t greener. All that drama this summer to get a situation arguable more rudderless than he had. Only saving grace for Bucks was they had another star. Portland never made the deal to pair him with someone, but just pairing a star with a star doesn’t make you less dysfunctional.

**** coaching to start with Griff, letting the obvious perfect coach walk for nothing (Stotts), hiring a “name” coach who’s flamed out everywhere for 15 years since his ring, bringing in a malcontent lockerroom killer in Beverly… just utterly directionless leadership in the front office. Literally any one of us could have made better roster choices than what the Bucks did after getting Dame. Just mind bogglingly stupid moves.

Stoked for that Bucks pick in the future tho!

Also, this would have been no different with Dame going to Miami.

Perhaps the Bucks will be better with a longer summer off, especially if Giannis'
injury keeps him out of the Olympics.

I say each and every year...injuries are the thing that decides who is the NBA champion.

As for the Bucks, they can look a lot better. It's kinda to be expected that Lillard would need some adjustment time after playing a decade on a different team. If the Bucks hadn't dealt with injuries, things could have been better...but they will in time. And it's not like they were terrible.Continuity is worth WAY more than most fans give it credit for.

zzaj wrote:I say each and every year...injuries are the thing that decides who is the NBA champion.

As for the Bucks, they can look a lot better. It's kinda to be expected that Lillard would need some adjustment time after playing a decade on a different team. If the Bucks hadn't dealt with injuries, things could have been better...but they will in time. And it's not like they were terrible.Continuity is worth WAY more than most fans give it credit for.

I would agree that injuries can kill championship hopes for a team, but I wouldn't say it decides the NBA Champion. I just dislike not giving the NBA Champs full credit for battling it out and winning the whole thing.

Wolves vs Nuggets!!! wooooo. What a battle top to bottom.

Ridiculous - refs called a foul in the first 2 seconds on the JUMP BALL. Could have let that one go completely.

Officiating is all over the place (nothing new). The Wolves/Nuggets game the refs let the players play physical to the point they let a lot of real fouls go. The Knicks/Pacers was the opposite - they called a lot of BS.

I still hate the fact that the Blazers salary dumped Nickeil Alexander-Walker.

JasonStern wrote:I still hate the fact that the Blazers salary dumped Nickeil Alexander-Walker.

From what I’ve seen on this board since I started posting - he’s exactly what you guys want. A tall 2way backup ball handler.

cdubbz wrote:

JasonStern wrote:I still hate the fact that the Blazers salary dumped Nickeil Alexander-Walker.

From what I’ve seen on this board since I started posting - he’s exactly what you guys want. A tall 2way backup ball handler.

Yep. Traded for a 2nd round pick and eating Joe Ingles contract. To be fair, the 2nd round pick did end up being Jabari Walker, so it wasn't as bad as it statistically should have been.

The more I think about it and look at the average payroll of the Playoffs--The Blazers are sooooooooo lucky they got out of Lillard's contract. The sooner they can get out of Grant, Simons and Ayton the better.

The new NBA with the cap the way it is, is going to be shuffling lots of good players on rookie scale contracts. The Suns and Milwaukie are completely hosed. Can you get 80% of Durant for 20% of the cost?...kind of calculus.

IMHO, the era of the supermax is over. In a couple years time almost no owner is going to be willing to give a super max once they realize it hamstrings their franchise for the whole of that contract.

zzaj wrote:The more I think about it and look at the average payroll of the Playoffs--The Blazers are sooooooooo lucky they got out of Lillard's contract. The sooner they can get out of Grant, Simons and Ayton the better.

The new NBA with the cap the way it is, is going to be shuffling lots of good players on rookie scale contracts. The Suns and Milwaukie are completely hosed. Can you get 80% of Durant for 20% of the cost?...kind of calculus.

IMHO, the era of the supermax is over. In a couple years time almost no owner is going to be willing to give a super max once they realize it hamstrings their franchise for the whole of that contract.

Not sure I agree. Especially with the talk of the new media rights increasing the cap by 10% per year for the next 6 years straight.

tester551 wrote:

zzaj wrote:The more I think about it and look at the average payroll of the Playoffs--The Blazers are sooooooooo lucky they got out of Lillard's contract. The sooner they can get out of Grant, Simons and Ayton the better.

The new NBA with the cap the way it is, is going to be shuffling lots of good players on rookie scale contracts. The Suns and Milwaukie are completely hosed. Can you get 80% of Durant for 20% of the cost?...kind of calculus.

IMHO, the era of the supermax is over. In a couple years time almost no owner is going to be willing to give a super max once they realize it hamstrings their franchise for the whole of that contract.

Not sure I agree. Especially with the talk of the new media rights increasing the cap by 10% per year for the next 6 years straight.

Yeah, we'll see...do expensive aging stars on losing teams make you more money than non-expensive good players on a team that goes deep in the playoffs and has way more nationally televised games? This will be the consideration/transition in the next few years.