The NBENFANT Thread (NBA): Offseason Edition

[Wizenheimer]

They also had Dragic over Lillard in the ASG.. Eh. I can see that sadly.

So here's a thought, Is Dragic better than Lillard? We could have signed him, and potentially drafted Drummond.
Dragic
Wes
Batum
LMA
Drummond

Is that team better than

Lillard
Wes
Batum
LMA
Lopez?

I LOVE Dame, but maybe Goran was the move?

the draft was about a week before teams could start talking to free agents so it would have been hard to take Drummond and roll the dice on finding a PG in free agency

besides that, I think Olshey knew all along he was going to make a max offer to Hibbert. So the smart move, I suppose, was Lillard at #6

however, once Indiana matched the offer sheet to Hibbert, there was nothing preventing the Blazers from making an offer to Dragic. A 3 guard rotation of Lillard-Matthews-Dragic would be pretty dynamic. Do that and take Henson or Sullinger instead of Leonard and the Blazers would probably have the best record in the league right now

of course, that's making a set of perfect decisions in real time...making a string of perfect decisions is a nearly impossible

[DeBlazerRiddem]

Holy crap, this wiretap about Cleveland's GM has me cracking up.

Grant had spent the final months of his tenure as GM pitching one-sided deals to his peers from other teams, clearly overvaluing his young draft picks in offers for the likes of LaMarcus Aldridge, Anthony Davis and Andre Drummond. Few executives maintained the patience to listen to Grant's pitches.

Reminds me of some of the Cleveland fans here on RealGM. ROFL.


Maybe I am a terrible person, but Portland fans and Cleveland fans do NOT seem to get along. The only other team that we have that sort of regular friction with is Minnesota, a rivalry that actually makes sense on several levels, although even then we seem to get along better with them than the Cav's.

Anyways, hearing this type of things makes me think.. maybe it wasn't us at all, maybe it was them all along

[Shem]

Holy crap, this wiretap about Cleveland's GM has me cracking up.

Grant had spent the final months of his tenure as GM pitching one-sided deals to his peers from other teams, clearly overvaluing his young draft picks in offers for the likes of LaMarcus Aldridge, Anthony Davis and Andre Drummond. Few executives maintained the patience to listen to Grant's pitches.

Reminds me of some of the Cleveland fans here on RealGM. ROFL.


Maybe I am a terrible person, but Portland fans and Cleveland fans do NOT seem to get along. The only other team that we have that sort of regular friction with is Minnesota, a rivalry that actually makes sense on several levels, although even then we seem to get along better with them than the Cav's.

Anyways, hearing this type of things makes me think.. maybe it wasn't us at all, maybe it was them all along

You're not a terrible person. There's a reason why they call Cleveland, "The mistake by the lake!" The majority of fans are delusional that I have come across. Grant actually fit their culture. I'm trying to understand based on that why he got fired. Even Dan Gilbert is delusional.

And the funny thing is in a general sense, I put Minnesota and Dallas fans in the same boat. There's something in the water in those places.

[Wizenheimer]

Holy crap, this wiretap about Cleveland's GM has me cracking up.

Grant had spent the final months of his tenure as GM pitching one-sided deals to his peers from other teams, clearly overvaluing his young draft picks in offers for the likes of LaMarcus Aldridge, Anthony Davis and Andre Drummond. Few executives maintained the patience to listen to Grant's pitches.

Reminds me of some of the Cleveland fans here on RealGM. ROFL.


Maybe I am a terrible person, but Portland fans and Cleveland fans do NOT seem to get along. The only other team that we have that sort of regular friction with is Minnesota, a rivalry that actually makes sense on several levels, although even then we seem to get along better with them than the Cav's.

Anyways, hearing this type of things makes me think.. maybe it wasn't us at all, maybe it was them all along

certainly, all the crap last summer about Aldridge to Cleveland for a crappy draft pick or two left a sour taste. It wasn't just constant low-ball statements about Aldridge's value, it was "Irving is better then Lillard and it isn't close"...."Waiters is better then Matthews"...."Tristan Thompson and a #1 pick is way too much to give up for Aldridge"...it went on and on

of course the same crap happened in discussions with Houston fans about Asik

and who can forget Timberwolves fans when Minny had that offer sheet out to Batum?

the other side of that is that some of every teams' fans say similar things. There's a trade on the trade board about Portland getting Koufos for Wright and Barton

oh, one other thing...the description of the Cleveland GM overvaluing his own assets is remarkably similar to what was said about Kevin Pritchard when he was the Blazer GM

[JasonStern]

wow. three winners? never thought I would see an NBA slam dunk contest that would make me miss blake griffin dunking over a kai in kia's NBA slam dunk contest sponsored by kia.

[GreenRiddler]

Damn Greg Monroe is so talented. Why can't his contract exp in 2015? He is like a primo young big to replace LMA. Crazy they signed Josh Smith this year, Dumars need to be fired.

[GreenRiddler]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLiYEIaLcSE[/youtube]

I can count on 1 hand the number of times he has posted up in Portland. I thought he couldn't he has some back-to-the-basket moves, could refine em. Granted those are tweeners he is posting up, but I have seen him defended by the Quincy Acys of the NBA.

[GreenRiddler]

We don't have a pick this year but I have been following the draft and man is Wiggins talented. Paul george like player. I hope he goes to the Eastern Conf.

76ers pretty much had 1 tank year and they got Noel/MCW plus a top 3 pick that could be Wiggins Embiidd or Parker. Not to mention there 11th pick. They cleaned house!

[Wizenheimer]

76ers pretty much had 1 tank year and they got Noel/MCW plus a top 3 pick that could be Wiggins Embiidd or Parker. Not to mention there 11th pick. They cleaned house!

prior to this season, Philly has been in the lottery in 5 out of 10 season, and 4 of the 5 times they've made the playoffs have been 1st round exits. And they are about to have a season of less then 20 wins, probably one of the 10 worst seasons ever.

and after this season is over, they will be dealing with the prospect of Tony Wroten, Nerlens Noel, Michael Carter Williams, & their two 1sts from this season all needing rookie extensions in a 24 month period, plus having to re-sign James Anderson next summer.

If the 76ers hit paydirt on all their young players, they won't be able to keep them. That's the problem under the new CBA of loading up draft picks/young players

[GreenRiddler]

Roy Hibb is complaining about not getting shots for his bigs. He should tell that to Hill, Lance is a good passer, a willing passer. hill is the one that sucks at being a point guard, the dude is pretty useless, one of the most overrated starters in the league, tweener scoring guard who can't even score that well. Sure he had 37 against us, but he avgs below what you would expect from a scoring guard.

And on top of that they signed him to a 5 year deal

Rubio or Lowry would be great for Indy. Hill has been a joke for a while.

[GreenRiddler]

man after reading up on their locker room problems, I can't say I am surprised, Roy, Paul George and Lance are all a bit immature for their age. When push comes to shove it looks like they fold. I m glad we got leaders on this team that wouldn't let that happen. We actually have a similar record to Indy since February.

[Shem]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sG9zrfeTAhM[/youtube]

[GreenRiddler]

Man watching Jonas Val right now, he is everything I hoped Meyers would be. They even had similar per 36 last year, but you can just tell which player has played more organized structured basketball. I still doubt NO doesn't pickup his contact next year, he probably shouldn't and just trade him in a deal for a package like the Pacers did with Plumlee.

[GreenRiddler]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sG9zrfeTAhM[/youtube]

Now if only he could bring that mentality all day on Defense, it was painful watching him last night, we put him on bledsoe because Dragic is the more well rounded Guard, so what does Bledsoe do? The same thing Wes does when he has a PG, attack him. We couldn't switch it back to Dragic cause he would do the same thing and PJ is too big, Green even got some work in on him (although he was scorching that night).

He really needs to bring effort all game on that end and he needs too watch game tape because his stance in 1 on 1 situations and in PnR have been consistently bad all year long.

[Shem]

For tonight only, I'm very grateful that Portland passed up on Kenneth Faried.

[GreenRiddler]

For tonight only, I'm very grateful that Portland passed up on Kenneth Faried.

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[GreenRiddler]

It is beautiful when refs don't call a foul on Harden drives, like this Pelican game. The announcers mentioned he creates that contact.

[Shem]

For tonight only, I'm very grateful that Portland passed up on Kenneth Faried.

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Because the other night he hit the game winning shot against Golden State helping the Blazers secure the 5th seed. Keep up man!

[GreenRiddler]

For tonight only, I'm very grateful that Portland passed up on Kenneth Faried.

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Because the other night he hit the game winning shot against Golden State helping the Blazers secure the 5th seed. Keep up man!

Ah of course, I am tired though!

[Jsun947]

West
1.) SAS
2.) OKC
3.) LAC
4.) HOU
5.) POR
6.) GSW
7.) MEM
8.) DAL
9.) PHO

East
1.) IND
2.) MIA
3.) TOR
4.) CHI
5.) WAS
6.) BKN
7.) CHA
8.) ATL

Game guide for tomorrow

OKC vs Det @ 5
If OKC wins they are #2 & LAC #3.

LAC vs POR @ 7:30
If OKC won their game this is meaningless
If OKC lost & LAC wins then LAC is 2 and OKC 3

DAL vs MEM @ 5
Winner is #7, Loser #8

CHI vs CHA @ 4 Chicago Lost
TOR vs NYK @ 5
If Chi & Tor win or if Chi loses @ Tor wins than Toronto is #3
If Tor loses & Chi wins or Tor & Chi lose than Chicago is #3
??? I think?

If CHA loses they are #7
If CHA wins @ WAS loses then CHA is #6 @ WAS #7

BKN vs CLE @ 5
If BKN wins or BKN & WAS loses then BKN is #5
If BKN loses and WAS wins then BKN is #6

WAS vs BOS @ 5
If CHA wins @ WAS loses then WAS is #7
If BKN loses and WAS wins then WAS is #5
If CHA loses and WAS loses then WAS is #6
If WAS wins & BKN wins then WAS is #6