Anything Goes Thread 5.0

[Soulyss]

Sad to hear the news about Channing Frye's mother passing away. Will always be a fan of his. Really nice guy.

That is an incredibly tough thing, losing a parent young... and even though he's in his early 30's, he's still young. I'm almost 40 and can't even fathom not having my folks around.

[DeBlazerRiddem]

I found this recently... Not sure if it has been posted before but ROFL

https://www.reddit.com/r/rareterrys/

[Jstock12]

Domas or Arvydas?

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[The Sebastian Express]

I don't have anything to add to this trade thread specifically except my never ending love for Noel and I still think we should try to trade for him, but I did want to vent my frustration at the inclusion of Matthews in that one trade board thread as some type of negative addition for not getting anything for him at the trade deadline before he ruptured his achilles a few of you will know what I'm agitated about in this incredibly long run-on sentence I've just wrote.

[mactrapper10]

I don't have anything to add to this trade thread specifically except my never ending love for Noel and I still think we should try to trade for him, but I did want to vent my frustration at the inclusion of Matthews in that one trade board thread as some type of negative addition for not getting anything for him at the trade deadline before he ruptured his achilles a few of you will know what I'm agitated about in this incredibly long run-on sentence I've just wrote.

If we are airing our past grievances, I'm still mad that we didn't draft Adam Morrison in 2006 and that we didn't keep him in 2012 when he was a training camp invitee.

[DusterBuster]

I don't have anything to add to this trade thread specifically except my never ending love for Noel and I still think we should try to trade for him, but I did want to vent my frustration at the inclusion of Matthews in that one trade board thread as some type of negative addition for not getting anything for him at the trade deadline before he ruptured his achilles a few of you will know what I'm agitated about in this incredibly long run-on sentence I've just wrote.

If we are airing our past grievances, I'm still mad that we didn't draft Adam Morrison in 2006 and that we didn't keep him in 2012 when he was a training camp invitee.

And why the hell did we ever let Brian Grant go!

[mactrapper10]

I don't have anything to add to this trade thread specifically except my never ending love for Noel and I still think we should try to trade for him, but I did want to vent my frustration at the inclusion of Matthews in that one trade board thread as some type of negative addition for not getting anything for him at the trade deadline before he ruptured his achilles a few of you will know what I'm agitated about in this incredibly long run-on sentence I've just wrote.

If we are airing our past grievances, I'm still mad that we didn't draft Adam Morrison in 2006 and that we didn't keep him in 2012 when he was a training camp invitee.

And why the hell did we ever let Brian Grant go!

Oh boy- that's a good one. At least he is back in some capacity now. Too bad we never got to see what Petteri Koponen could do.

[HartfordWhalers]

I don't have anything to add to this trade thread specifically except my never ending love for Noel and I still think we should try to trade for him, but I did want to vent my frustration at the inclusion of Matthews in that one trade board thread as some type of negative addition for not getting anything for him at the trade deadline before he ruptured his achilles a few of you will know what I'm agitated about in this incredibly long run-on sentence I've just wrote.

Well, thats kind of on you then.

After all, the lister did list 3 times that it was a list of every major move (and non move) he could quickly think of, and that he didn;t think all of them were negative at all (CJ extension for instance).

But I feel like thats been explained a bunch, and you cannot force people to listen!

[The Sebastian Express]

I don't have anything to add to this trade thread specifically except my never ending love for Noel and I still think we should try to trade for him, but I did want to vent my frustration at the inclusion of Matthews in that one trade board thread as some type of negative addition for not getting anything for him at the trade deadline before he ruptured his achilles a few of you will know what I'm agitated about in this incredibly long run-on sentence I've just wrote.

Well, thats kind of on you then.

After all, the lister did list 3 times that it was a list of every major move (and non move) he could quickly think of, and that he didn;t think all of them were negative at all (CJ extension for instance).

But I feel like thats been explained a bunch, and you cannot force people to listen!

The way you phrased it is most certainly negative move. You could have said 'didn't resign Matthews after his injury.'. But you didn't. You specifically listed 'not trading Matthews before he left.'. Why would they have traded Matthews? They had all intent to resign him. They could not foresee a freak accident such as this.

Here's the deal. You listed it that way and that's on -you-. That isn't on me. And if you don't want to accept you worded it poorly and made it look negative in what is supposed to be a neutral list, that's fine. But please don't act like the way it is worded doesn't look like Portland just decided not to trade away Matthews and let him go when he was healthy for nothing. That isn't how that played out and you know it.

[HartfordWhalers]

I don't have anything to add to this trade thread specifically except my never ending love for Noel and I still think we should try to trade for him, but I did want to vent my frustration at the inclusion of Matthews in that one trade board thread as some type of negative addition for not getting anything for him at the trade deadline before he ruptured his achilles a few of you will know what I'm agitated about in this incredibly long run-on sentence I've just wrote.

Well, thats kind of on you then.

After all, the lister did list 3 times that it was a list of every major move (and non move) he could quickly think of, and that he didn;t think all of them were negative at all (CJ extension for instance).

But I feel like thats been explained a bunch, and you cannot force people to listen!

The way you phrased it is most certainly negative move. You could have said 'didn't resign Matthews after his injury.'. But you didn't. You specifically listed 'not trading Matthews before he left.'. Why would they have traded Matthews? They had all intent to resign him. They could not foresee a freak accident such as this.

Here's the deal. You listed it that way and that's on -you-. That isn't on me. And if you don't want to accept you worded it poorly and made it look negative in what is supposed to be a neutral list, that's fine. But please don't act like the way it is worded doesn't look like Portland just decided not to trade away Matthews and let him go when he was healthy for nothing. That isn't how that played out and you know it.

Here is the full listing:

-- Not trading LMA before he left
-- Not trading Mathews before he left

You can complain about that wording, but it is certainly accurate. Portland choose not to trade Mathews before he entered unrestricted free agency, and in unrestricted free agency he left with no compensation. {List also should probably have included Lopez for the same}. I'm not sure how that isn't fair. It is a factual statement, and as you yourself highlight Mathews didn't have his injury yet when the trade deadline came and went.

If anyone is asking should the choices of Portland be debated -- which in that thread someone argued they should not -- that one qualifies as one worth debating. Portland had a choice to cash out on not just LMA, but also Mathews (and Lopez) and that was a huge decision, whether they made it right or wrong.

Spoiler:

If anyone is moving past is it fair to suggest that is worth debate and actually engaging in that debate, I think the question of should Portland have kept Mathews at the trade deadline entirely depends upon what they decided to do with LMA. If they were keeping LMA, you certainly don't trade Mathews (and Lopez?) and limp into the playoffs and LMA's unrestricted free agency. If you think LMA is leaving, you should trade him and then -- injury or no unexpected injury -- you probably should move on from Mathews as well. So, whether the Mathews decision was right or wrong imo depends upon whether the LMA decision was.

Edit: If you are just focusing on whether offering Mathews a big contract after his injury and after LMA left was a wise idea, I feel like that was trivially clearly not a good idea and agree. But the much bigger decision was what to do at the trade deadline, which is not an easy decision.

[DusterBuster]

Jesus Christ HW, you really need to let it go. I know I'm probably stepping on mod toes here but this is getting ... as you would say ... absurd. Maybe step away from the keyboard and get some fresh air dude.

[The Sebastian Express]

Well, thats kind of on you then.

After all, the lister did list 3 times that it was a list of every major move (and non move) he could quickly think of, and that he didn;t think all of them were negative at all (CJ extension for instance).

But I feel like thats been explained a bunch, and you cannot force people to listen!

The way you phrased it is most certainly negative move. You could have said 'didn't resign Matthews after his injury.'. But you didn't. You specifically listed 'not trading Matthews before he left.'. Why would they have traded Matthews? They had all intent to resign him. They could not foresee a freak accident such as this.

Here's the deal. You listed it that way and that's on -you-. That isn't on me. And if you don't want to accept you worded it poorly and made it look negative in what is supposed to be a neutral list, that's fine. But please don't act like the way it is worded doesn't look like Portland just decided not to trade away Matthews and let him go when he was healthy for nothing. That isn't how that played out and you know it.

Here is the full listing:

-- Not trading LMA before he left
-- Not trading Mathews before he left

You can complain about that wording, but it is certainly accurate. Portland choose not to trade Mathews before he entered unrestricted free agency, and in unrestricted free agency he left with no compensation. {List also should probably have included Lopez for the same}. I'm not sure how that isn't fair. It is a factual statement, and as you yourself highlight Mathews didn't have his injury yet when the trade deadline came and went.

If anyone is asking should the choices of Portland be debated -- which in that thread someone argued they should not -- that one qualifies as one worth debating. Portland had a choice to cash out on not just LMA, but also Mathews (and Lopez) and that was a huge decision, whether they made it right or wrong.

Spoiler:

If anyone is moving past is it fair to suggest that is worth debate and actually engaging in that debate, I think the question of should Portland have kept Mathews at the trade deadline entirely depends upon what they decided to do with LMA. If they were keeping LMA, you certainly don't trade Mathews (and Lopez?) and limp into the playoffs and LMA's unrestricted free agency. If you think LMA is leaving, you should trade him and then -- injury or no unexpected injury -- you probably should move on from Mathews as well. So, whether the Mathews decision was right or wrong imo depends upon whether the LMA decision was.

Edit: If you are just focusing on whether offering Mathews a big contract after his injury and after LMA left was a wise idea, I feel like that was trivially clearly not a good idea and agree. But the much bigger decision was what to do at the trade deadline, which is not an easy decision.

You know. I had a long response written up but instead I'll just echo Duster and add: If you want to win, congrats, you win. List it in your most negative way possible that doesn't reflect the truth. Kudos to you.

[The Sebastian Express]

Additionally I've moved those posts here since my initial semi-topical rant has delved into derailment and this is the only thread that really fits it on the board.

[DusterBuster]

Domas or Arvydas?

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I wish we could have had Domas. I don't think his ceiling is all that high, but I just would have loved to have another Sabonis in Portland.

[The Sebastian Express]

Man. This snow lately all throughout Portland and the valley has been great even if terrible for traffic/travel. I knew it was going to be a cold winter. and now I'm terrified it's going to be a extremely scorching summer.

[Shem]

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[Wizenheimer]

If you like to garden and despair over declining pollinator populations, have no fear; first was robocop, next will be robo-bees:

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/robo-bees-could-aid-insects-with-pollination-duties/

[BlackMamba]

ROLO!

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[Fitz303]

ROLO!

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It was deleted.. What did it say?

[Blazinaway]

there was an Ibaka/Rolo brawl