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ESPN's 2012 Player Rankings: Blazers

Postby Moonbeam on Tue Sep 11, 2012 8:42 pm

Last year ESPN ranked all players in the NBA. I thought it would be fun to track how the Blazers fare this time around. Here is the list so far.

Listed so far:

#460: Victor Claver (NR last year): 2.08
#422: Elliott Williams (452): 2.39
#409: Will Barton (NR): 2.51
#401: Luke Babbitt (401): 2.57
#373: Ronnie Price (298): 2.76
#357: Sasha Pavlovic (423): 2.86
#338: Nolan Smith (394): 2.97
#330: Myers Leoneard (NR): 3.03
#268: Jared Jeffries (264): 3.61
#211: Damian Lillard (NR): 4.24
#202: J.J. Hickson (125): 4.31
#109: Wesley Matthews (100): 5.26

Others of interest:

#421: Jeff Pendergraph (NR): 2.41
#412: Armon Johnson (419): 2.49
#372: Greg Oden (184): 2.76
#348: Travis Outlaw (271): 2.91
#309: Patty Mills (316): 3.25
#298: Dante Cunningham (311): 3.33
#292: Martell Webster (231): 3.40
#273: Joel Przybilla (198): 3.56
#239: Steve Blake (241): 3.90
#197: Jerryd Bayless (197): 4.38
#192: Hedo Turkoglu (153): 4.42
#191: Channing Frye (160): 4.45
#173: Raymond Felton (80): 4.59
#161: Jarrett Jack (214): 4.69
#145: Brandon Roy (59): 4.85
#127: Marcus Camby (74): 5.05
#111: Jamal Crawford (76): 5.25
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Re: ESPN's 2012 Player Rankings: Blazers

Postby Moonbeam on Tue Sep 11, 2012 8:44 pm

Looks like the experts don't think too highly of the Blazers and also don't watch many Blazer games. Babbitt and Armon Johnson ahead of Elliott Williams is quite funny, as is Nolan Smith being so high. It looks like Joel Freeland has not cracked the top 500 and that only 2 Blazers rank in the top 100.
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Re: ESPN's 2012 Player Rankings: Blazers

Postby King d on Tue Sep 11, 2012 9:21 pm

Hmm... why no Aldridge or Batum ?
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Re: ESPN's 2012 Player Rankings: Blazers

Postby Moonbeam on Tue Sep 11, 2012 9:43 pm

King d wrote:Hmm... why no Aldridge or Batum ?


They haven't announced the top 100 yet.
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Re: ESPN's 2012 Player Rankings: Blazers

Postby taufblazers33 on Tue Sep 11, 2012 10:05 pm

looks good to me. everyone is where they should be.
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Re: ESPN's 2012 Player Rankings: Blazers

Postby Oden2 on Tue Sep 11, 2012 11:04 pm

Lilard is ranked too low imo.
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Re: ESPN's 2012 Player Rankings: Blazers

Postby Shem on Tue Sep 11, 2012 11:22 pm

I'm surprised you didn't post the link.
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Re: ESPN's 2012 Player Rankings: Blazers

Postby Milkdud on Tue Sep 11, 2012 11:29 pm

Seems like the majority of rookies got rated higher then I would expect.
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Re: ESPN's 2012 Player Rankings: Blazers

Postby DeBlazerRiddem on Tue Sep 11, 2012 11:49 pm

Sweet, Blazers only have 2 top 100 players. Go us.



Unless... Freeland isn't listed here - did he somehow sneak into the top 100? That would be odd
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Re: ESPN's 2012 Player Rankings: Blazers

Postby Moonbeam on Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:11 am

Shem wrote:I'm surprised you didn't post the link.


I have edited the OP! Thanks!
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Re: ESPN's 2012 Player Rankings: Blazers

Postby Wickzki on Wed Sep 12, 2012 3:53 am

DeBlazerRiddem wrote:Sweet, Blazers only have 2 top 100 players. Go us.


Only three players in the top 150 (30 x 5 = 150). Effectively the experts believe two of our starters are bench quality players.

3 players ranked 151-300 (30 x 5 x 2 = 300). Effectively the experts believe only SIX of our players are NBA rotation quality players.

I believe we're underrated. I don't think we're a good NBA team but believe that we have more than six rotation (or better) quality players.

Not surprised on Nolan being rated higher than others on the list. He would have some people who are rating him based on his background (father) and his college (Duke).
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Re: ESPN's 2012 Player Rankings: Blazers

Postby portlandoden on Wed Sep 12, 2012 7:22 am

woah, look at some of those names above Outlaw. How he has fallen...
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Re: ESPN's 2012 Player Rankings: Blazers

Postby bob2 on Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:43 am

Moonbeam wrote: It looks like Joel Freeland has not cracked the top 500 .

I'm pretty sure that the list of 500 players is chosen by ESPN and that the "experts" only decide the order of these 500 guys. If Freeland isn't in the list, it would be because ESPN forgot about him (!), not because he's not good enough.

Clearly, Freeland is better than some guys on this list and should have been in the top 500.
Seeing him in the top 100 clearly would be a real surprise. The most likely situation is that someone at ESPN did an awful job listing the 500 candidates.
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Re: ESPN's 2012 Player Rankings: Blazers

Postby a_sensei on Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:46 am

I am surprised to see Claver ranked over Freeland. Maybe the voting done before Freeland was signed. I was surprised to see Elliot Williams so low, but it appears that isn't going to change any time soon. Unproven youth is ranked low, and the Blazers have a lot of that. I don't think that is a surprise to anyone.
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Re: ESPN's 2012 Player Rankings: Blazers

Postby bob2 on Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:05 am

Wickzki wrote:Only three players in the top 150 (30 x 5 = 150). Effectively the experts believe two of our starters are bench quality players.
3 players ranked 151-300 (30 x 5 x 2 = 300). Effectively the experts believe only SIX of our players are NBA rotation quality players.
I believe we're underrated. I don't think we're a good NBA team but believe that we have more than six rotation (or better) quality players.

Portland's team is really young and the rookies are usually ranked pretty badly.
Most of them go up at least 100 ranks in the following year.
Saying that Lillard is not a starting caliber PG seems a bit strange. We don't know if he will be a star or not but it's quite sure that he is good enough to start in the NBA.
Same for Meyers Leonard, a lottery pick should be, at least, a rotation player
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