youngthegiant wrote:Would you guys do a Gallinari, Batum swap?
Absolutely not.
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youngthegiant wrote:Would you guys do a Gallinari, Batum swap?
youngthegiant wrote:Would you guys do a Gallinari, Batum swap?
Goldbum wrote:youngthegiant wrote:Would you guys do a Gallinari, Batum swap?
Would u consider a Nolan Smith for Carried swap?
Wizenheimer wrote:Goldbum wrote:youngthegiant wrote:Would you guys do a Gallinari, Batum swap?
Would u consider a Nolan Smith for Carried swap?
you must mean Otto Carried, the 2nd assistant janitor at the Nuggets practice facility
speaking as a Blazer fan...yes, I'd do that deal
Norm2953 wrote:The 2013 draft is quite bad for Cody Zeller who is projected to be the first pick is
nowhere near the prospect that Anthony Davis was in 2012. There seems to be
a number of young bigs who will need time to develop but we already have such
a player in Leonard.
I would not be opposed to a deal involving our lottery pick that would bring back
a late first round pick and a solid veteran player with a decent contract. I'd
like to see us get a defensive minded guard with size who could handle the ball
well enough to run the team for we haven't had such a player since Greg
Anthony.
Norm2953 wrote:The 2013 draft is quite bad for Cody Zeller who is projected to be the first pick is
nowhere near the prospect that Anthony Davis was in 2012. There seems to be
a number of young bigs who will need time to develop but we already have such
a player in Leonard.
I would not be opposed to a deal involving our lottery pick that would bring back
a late first round pick and a solid veteran player with a decent contract. I'd
like to see us get a defensive minded guard with size who could handle the ball
well enough to run the team for we haven't had such a player since Greg
Anthony.
The Sebastian Express wrote:Well, no, we can trade our pick after the draft lottery if we're in the top 12.
DaVoiceMaster wrote:Interesting comparison Wiz. I would have thought Nene's numbers were a lot higher than that. Nene is a bit bigger, but JJ's numbers are nearly as good. I'll take JJ at $4 million before I consider Nene at $13 for another 3 years (after this season).
Devilzsidewalk wrote:DB is like the ultimate Wolves troll
The Sebastian Express wrote:I believe you are wrong. Teams can't trade future picks consecutively, but once it rolls over to that period after the lottery/the day of the draft it can be traded. At least that is my understanding, and how I have seen it done in the past. So we're certainly free to trade our pick once we know it is ours (1-12), the reason preventing us from trading it before the lottery is both a combination of future consecutive pick possibilities, and the fact that we don't technically own our pick until its slot is determined.
Teams are restricted from trading away future first round draft picks in consecutive years. This is known as the "Ted Stepien Rule." Stepien owned the Cavs from 1980-83, and made a series of bad trades (such as the 1982 trade mentioned above) that cost the Cavs several years' first round picks. As a result of Stepien's ineptitude, teams are now prevented from making trades which might leave them without a first round pick in consecutive future years.
The Stepien rule applies only to future first round picks. For example, if this is the 2011-12 season, then a team can trade its 2012 first round pick without regard to whether they had traded their 2011 pick, since their 2011 pick is no longer a future pick. But they can't trade away both their 2012 and 2013 picks, since both are future picks. Teams sometimes work around this rule by trading first round picks in alternate years.
When dealing with protected picks, the Stepien rule is interpreted to mean that teams can't trade a pick if there is any chance it will leave the team without a first round pick in consecutive future drafts.[/u] Suppose a team makes a trade in 2011-12 that conveys a first round pick sometime from 2012 to 2017. The pick is protected only if it is the first overall pick from 2012 to 2017, and if it is not conveyed by 2017, the other team gets cash instead. In other words, in order to avoid sending a pick from 2012 to 2016, the team would have to win the first overall pick in the draft lottery five seasons in a row. Even though the likelihood of this happening is essentially nil, the team is not allowed to trade its 2018 pick.
DusterBuster wrote:Lillard and Evans would be a terrible fit imo.
Wizenheimer wrote:The Sebastian Express wrote:I believe you are wrong. Teams can't trade future picks consecutively, but once it rolls over to that period after the lottery/the day of the draft it can be traded. At least that is my understanding, and how I have seen it done in the past. So we're certainly free to trade our pick once we know it is ours (1-12), the reason preventing us from trading it before the lottery is both a combination of future consecutive pick possibilities, and the fact that we don't technically own our pick until its slot is determined.
no...and I'm really quite sure you're wrong
from the CBA FAQ:Teams are restricted from trading away future first round draft picks in consecutive years. This is known as the "Ted Stepien Rule." Stepien owned the Cavs from 1980-83, and made a series of bad trades (such as the 1982 trade mentioned above) that cost the Cavs several years' first round picks. As a result of Stepien's ineptitude, teams are now prevented from making trades which might leave them without a first round pick in consecutive future years.
The Stepien rule applies only to future first round picks. For example, if this is the 2011-12 season, then a team can trade its 2012 first round pick without regard to whether they had traded their 2011 pick, since their 2011 pick is no longer a future pick. But they can't trade away both their 2012 and 2013 picks, since both are future picks. Teams sometimes work around this rule by trading first round picks in alternate years.
When dealing with protected picks, the Stepien rule is interpreted to mean that teams can't trade a pick if there is any chance it will leave the team without a first round pick in consecutive future drafts.[/u] Suppose a team makes a trade in 2011-12 that conveys a first round pick sometime from 2012 to 2017. The pick is protected only if it is the first overall pick from 2012 to 2017, and if it is not conveyed by 2017, the other team gets cash instead. In other words, in order to avoid sending a pick from 2012 to 2016, the team would have to win the first overall pick in the draft lottery five seasons in a row. Even though the likelihood of this happening is essentially nil, the team is not allowed to trade its 2018 pick.
http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q84
if it is the period between the lottery and the draft it doesn't matter, it is still a future draft, and it would remain a future draft till the draft is complete. And the protection on the pick would mean that Charlotte still owns the rights to ALL Blazer picks from 2014-2016.
the CBA would prohibit Portland from trading the 2013 first because of the chance that the Blazers would not have a 1st in the 2013 and 2014 drafts. That violates the rule. That's pretty clear
For example, if this is the 2011-12 season, then a team can trade its 2012 first round pick without regard to whether they had traded their 2011 pick, since their 2011 pick is no longer a future pick
was supposed to read "and not a future/consecutive draft".but sold their 2009 pick during the draft to the Knicks (Toney Douglas) because it was considered a present/current draft, and not a consecutive draft.
The Sebastian Express wrote:
Wiz, you're reading it wrong, I'm pretty sure.
The first part you underlined just the first part, essentially the name of the rule. But look at the rest of the paragraph:For example, if this is the 2011-12 season, then a team can trade its 2012 first round pick without regard to whether they had traded their 2011 pick, since their 2011 pick is no longer a future pick
I'm pretty sure once the lottery happens, or on draft day, it is considered a 'present' pick, and not a future pick. The heavy emphasis is on future drafts, not currently happening drafts.
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