2017 Draft Day and Rumors Thread.

Blazinaway · Post #861 » by **Blazinaway** » Tue May 23, 2017 1:07 am

ZZAJ, check out his range from 3 in this vid where he went 7/7 from 3 in one game, and his range is big time

zzaj · Post #862 » by **zzaj** » Tue May 23, 2017 1:12 am

Blazinaway wrote:ZZAJ, check out his range from 3 in this vid where he went 7/7 from 3 in one game, and his range is big time

Watch on YouTube

Yeah, his shooting range is what separates him from many others in the second round. I fully expect him to end up in the first round on draft day. Why he's expected to go so low is a complete mystery to me. I think he's a much better prospect than Rabb, for example...

Blazinaway · Post #863 » by **Blazinaway** » Tue May 23, 2017 1:24 am

zzaj wrote:
Blazinaway wrote:ZZAJ, check out his range from 3 in this vid where he went 7/7 from 3 in one game, and his range is big time

Watch on YouTube

Yeah, his shooting range is what separates him from many others in the second round. I fully expect him to end up in the first round on draft day. Why he's expected to go so low is a complete mystery to me. I think he's a much better prospect than Rabb, for example...

I agree with you, looks like a really good stretch 4 prospect with some good athleticism and height/wingspan/movement as well. Seems like a Stotts type and a "potential" great fit next to NurK and off the bench, given the league he plays in who knows about his D? but he looks to have the talent to play some at least decent D and you just can't have enough of that shooting ability the way the league is going. And since it appears he's going late 1st at best at this time, how can you not take a shot at a guy like this?

Norm2953 · Post #864 » by **Norm2953** » Tue May 23, 2017 2:16 am

Is Bolden the same guy who had an indifferent season at UCLA?

Blazinaway · Post #865 » by **Blazinaway** » Tue May 23, 2017 2:19 am

Norm2953 wrote:Is Bolden the same guy who had an indifferent season at UCLA?

yep, in a interview said he got distracted coming to LA and was basically immature, didn't work out well and he went to Serbia and matured a lot

Goldbum · Post #866 » by **Goldbum** » Tue May 23, 2017 3:36 am

Is Bolden's 7'4" wingspan legit?

Blazinaway · Post #867 » by **Blazinaway** » Tue May 23, 2017 4:50 am

Goldbum wrote:Is Bolden's 7'4" wingspan legit?

seems to be what he's often quoted at but I haven't seen anything "official"

Norm2953 · Post #868 » by **Norm2953** » Tue May 23, 2017 4:11 pm

Chad Ford has a new draft board with mostly the usual list of names but with newcomers
like Jeanne, Diallo and Frank Jackson. As far as the bigs go, he still has John Collins as his
next best big after Zach Collins follwed in a group of Allen, Anigbogu, Patton and Adebayo.

Interesting the combine testing downgrades Anigbogu who tested below average as an
athlete and Allen is being downgraded from his interviews. It's clear those pre-draft
workouts will be critical as far as determining the pecking order amongst the bigs.

Waynearchetype · Post #869 » by **Waynearchetype** » Tue May 23, 2017 5:14 pm

Norm2953 wrote:Chad Ford has a new draft board with mostly the usual list of names but with newcomers
like Jeanne, Diallo and Frank Jackson. As far as the bigs go, he still has John Collins as his
next best big after Zach Collins follwed in a group of Allen, Anigbogu, Patton and Adebayo.

Interesting the combine testing downgrades Anigbogu who tested below average as an
athlete and Allen is being downgraded from his interviews. It's clear those pre-draft
workouts will be critical as far as determining the pecking order amongst the bigs.

Weird, seemed to me Anigbogu shot up on DXs rank after the combine and his insane wingspan. Of everyone after Zach, I think I like Patton the best.

Big guy, flashes some range, well rounded.

BigLurch92 · Post #870 » by **BigLurch92** » Tue May 23, 2017 5:37 pm

Portland should do whatever it takes to get OG Anunoby.

Norm2953 · Post #871 » by **Norm2953** » Tue May 23, 2017 5:44 pm

Waynearchetype wrote:
Norm2953 wrote:Chad Ford has a new draft board with mostly the usual list of names but with newcomers
like Jeanne, Diallo and Frank Jackson. As far as the bigs go, he still has John Collins as his
next best big after Zach Collins follwed in a group of Allen, Anigbogu, Patton and Adebayo.

Interesting the combine testing downgrades Anigbogu who tested below average as an
athlete and Allen is being downgraded from his interviews. It's clear those pre-draft
workouts will be critical as far as determining the pecking order amongst the bigs.

Weird, seemed to me Anigbogu shot up on DXs rank after the combine and his insane wingspan. Of everyone after Zach, I think I like Patton the best.

Big guy, flashes some range, well rounded.

Patton though tested out as a below average athlete with slow feet. Anigbogu did not test out above average athletically but more of a power player. Allen was downgraded from interviews.

Blazinaway · Post #872 » by **Blazinaway** » Tue May 23, 2017 5:47 pm

Norm2953 wrote:
Waynearchetype wrote:
Norm2953 wrote:Chad Ford has a new draft board with mostly the usual list of names but with newcomers
like Jeanne, Diallo and Frank Jackson. As far as the bigs go, he still has John Collins as his
next best big after Zach Collins follwed in a group of Allen, Anigbogu, Patton and Adebayo.

Interesting the combine testing downgrades Anigbogu who tested below average as an
athlete and Allen is being downgraded from his interviews. It's clear those pre-draft
workouts will be critical as far as determining the pecking order amongst the bigs.

Weird, seemed to me Anigbogu shot up on DXs rank after the combine and his insane wingspan. Of everyone after Zach, I think I like Patton the best.

Big guy, flashes some range, well rounded.

Patton though tested out as a below average athlete with slow feet. Anigbogu did not test out above average athletically but more of a power player. Allen was downgraded from interviews.

I am starting to "lean to Jeanne" here as a C pick

Norm2953 · Post #873 » by **Norm2953** » Tue May 23, 2017 5:58 pm

BigLurch92 wrote:Portland should do whatever it takes to get OG Anunoby.

Team physicals like in the case of Giles will determine where he is drafted. He might really drop if he has to miss his rookie season from a torn ACL

Waynearchetype · Post #874 » by **Waynearchetype** » Tue May 23, 2017 6:02 pm

Blazinaway wrote:
Norm2953 wrote:
Waynearchetype wrote:Weird, seemed to me Anigbogu shot up on DXs rank after the combine and his insane wingspan. Of everyone after Zach, I think I like Patton the best.

Big guy, flashes some range, well rounded.

Patton though tested out as a below average athlete with slow feet. Anigbogu did not test out above average athletically but more of a power player. Allen was downgraded from interviews.

I am starting to "lean to Jeanne" here as a C pick

I remain unconvinced that combine athletic testing is a useful indicator for NBA success. Looking back through prior years it's 90% guys that aren't drafted, flame out within a few years, or are mediocre at best.

Norm2953 · Post #875 » by **Norm2953** » Tue May 23, 2017 6:15 pm

I remember back to the 2013 draft where the Blazers opted for the athlete (Meyers) over the guy who was more ready play (Tyler Zeller). It turned out neither was the answer but these workout warriors need to weighed against the guys who are more likely to play.

BigLurch92 · Post #876 » by **BigLurch92** » Wed May 24, 2017 9:00 am

Norm2953 wrote:
BigLurch92 wrote:Portland should do whatever it takes to get OG Anunoby.

Team physicals like in the case of Giles will determine where he is drafted. He might really drop if he has to miss his rookie season from a torn ACL

That is true. I feel that he has high defensive potential which would do great wonder for this team.

Blazinaway · Post #877 » by **Blazinaway** » Wed May 24, 2017 5:36 pm

Waynearchetype wrote:
Blazinaway wrote:
Norm2953 wrote:
Patton though tested out as a below average athlete with slow feet. Anigbogu did not test out above average athletically but more of a power player. Allen was downgraded from interviews.

I am starting to "lean to Jeanne" here as a C pick

I remain unconvinced that combine athletic testing is a useful indicator for NBA success. Looking back through prior years it's 90% guys that aren't drafted, flame out within a few years, or are mediocre at best.

I think it's good to know as a "part" of the evaluation process, but in no way is it more important than skill and how a guy has played and how he might project

Village Idiot · Post #878 » by **Village Idiot** » Wed May 24, 2017 9:07 pm

Blazinaway wrote:
zzaj wrote:
Blazinaway wrote:ZZAJ, check out his range from 3 in this vid where he went 7/7 from 3 in one game, and his range is big time

Watch on YouTube

Yeah, his shooting range is what separates him from many others in the second round. I fully expect him to end up in the first round on draft day. Why he's expected to go so low is a complete mystery to me. I think he's a much better prospect than Rabb, for example...

I agree with you, looks like a really good stretch 4 prospect with some good athleticism and height/wingspan/movement as well. Seems like a Stotts type and a "potential" great fit next to NurK and off the bench, given the league he plays in who knows about his D? but he looks to have the talent to play some at least decent D and you just can't have enough of that shooting ability the way the league is going. And since it appears he's going late 1st at best at this time, how can you not take a shot at a guy like this?

Thanks for turning me on to Bolden. He had been flying under my radar. Looks like very solid pick-up.

Considering this young guy is not just surviving but thriving in Serbia says a lot about his fortitude. They don't F around when it comes to basketball and are not kind to blacks. My son played against Red Star Belgrade and they were extremely well rounded and physical players who also knew all the dirty tricks in the book.

This guy could even be a steal at 15. He seems to tick all the boxes in what we're looking for in a PF.

Waynearchetype · Post #879 » by **Waynearchetype** » Wed May 24, 2017 9:31 pm

Village Idiot wrote:Thanks for turning me on to Bolden. He had been flying under my radar. Looks like very solid pick-up.

Considering this young guy is not just surviving but thriving in Serbia says a lot about his fortitude. They don't F around when it comes to basketball and are not kind to blacks. My son played against Red Star Belgrade and they were extremely well rounded and physical players who also knew all the dirty tricks in the book.

This guy could even be a steal at 15. He seems to tick all the boxes in what we're looking for in a PF.

Hey man, I know you meant no offense and this isn't a big deal but I thought I'd just mention it for future reference incase someone gets on your case later in life. It is a little awkward in modern vernacular to refer to black people as "blacks", particularly because when people talk about "whites" they say "white people". "Black people" fits the bill just fine. Just adding "people" seems to imply a bit more respect to an unfortunately still touchy subject.

As for Bolden, he is projected as a mid round 2nd right?

Blazinaway · Post #880 » by **Blazinaway** » Wed May 24, 2017 9:53 pm

Waynearchetype wrote:
Village Idiot wrote:Thanks for turning me on to Bolden. He had been flying under my radar. Looks like very solid pick-up.

Considering this young guy is not just surviving but thriving in Serbia says a lot about his fortitude. They don't F around when it comes to basketball and are not kind to blacks. My son played against Red Star Belgrade and they were extremely well rounded and physical players who also knew all the dirty tricks in the book.

This guy could even be a steal at 15. He seems to tick all the boxes in what we're looking for in a PF.

Hey man, I know you meant no offense and this isn't a big deal but I thought I'd just mention it for future reference incase someone gets on your case later in life. It is a little awkward in modern vernacular to refer to black people as "blacks", particularly because when people talk about "whites" they say "white people". "Black people" fits the bill just fine. Just adding "people" seems to imply a bit more respect to an unfortunately still touchy subject.

As for Bolden, he is projected as a mid round 2nd right?

if he's on a draft list at all 2nd rd is all I have seen "so far"