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Chauncey Billups Now Odds-On Favorite To Be Next Coach Fired

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2024 10:31 pm
by BNM

Re: Chauncey Billups Now Odds-On Favorite To Be Next Coach Fired

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 12:30 am
by elias808
Let’s go!

But the real question; who replaces him?

Re: Chauncey Billups Now Odds-On Favorite To Be Next Coach Fired

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 12:53 am
by JRoy
Happy trails anywhere else.

Re: Chauncey Billups Now Odds-On Favorite To Be Next Coach Fired

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 12:58 am
by BNM
elias808 wrote:Let’s go!

But the real question; who replaces him?


Mike Budenholzer.

There was a time we could have had our choice of Bud, Vogel or Quin Snyder. Any of them could coach circles around Chauncey in their sleep with both hands tied behind their backs. But, Jody is cheap and doesn't give a **** about winning, so we may be stuck with Chauncey until she sells the team.

Re: Chauncey Billups Now Odds-On Favorite To Be Next Coach Fired

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 3:07 am
by elias808
BNM wrote:
elias808 wrote:Let’s go!

But the real question; who replaces him?


Mike Budenholzer.

There was a time we could have had our choice of Bud, Vogel or Quin Snyder. Any of them could coach circles around Chauncey in their sleep with both hands tied behind their backs. But, Jody is cheap and doesn't give a **** about winning, so we may be stuck with Chauncey until she sells the team.


Would a coach like Budz want to coach this team? I have my doubts.

Re: Chauncey Billups Now Odds-On Favorite To Be Next Coach Fired

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 3:22 am
by BNM
elias808 wrote:
BNM wrote:
elias808 wrote:Let’s go!

But the real question; who replaces him?


Mike Budenholzer.

There was a time we could have had our choice of Bud, Vogel or Quin Snyder. Any of them could coach circles around Chauncey in their sleep with both hands tied behind their backs. But, Jody is cheap and doesn't give a **** about winning, so we may be stuck with Chauncey until she sells the team.


Would a coach like Budz want to coach this team? I have my doubts.


Show him the money! POR stupidly gave Chauncey, who had never coached a day in his life, a 5 year $25 million contract. Throw $9 or $10 million a year at Bud and see what he says.

Of course they won't. Jodie doesn't care about winning and is fine continuing to lose and doesn't care about player development. The team will be sold by the time Scoot and Shaedon and the next two lottery picks enter their primes. Why should she care is Chauncey stunts their growth. That will be someone else's problem after she sells the team.

Re: Chauncey Billups Now Odds-On Favorite To Be Next Coach Fired

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 6:06 am
by The Sebastian Express
So is Jody cheap or is she overpaying for a coach who has never coached a day in his life. Could we maintain some consistency here.

Re: Chauncey Billups Now Odds-On Favorite To Be Next Coach Fired

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 6:17 am
by BNM
The Sebastian Express wrote:So is Jody cheap or is she overpaying for a coach who has never coached a day in his life. Could we maintain some consistency here.


She overpaid for an inexperienced coach because she was too cheap to pay for a real NBA head coach with a proven resume.

Re: Chauncey Billups Now Odds-On Favorite To Be Next Coach Fired

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 6:31 am
by Norm2953
I'd like to see Portland's next coach to be like coach Bud but with potential open jobs in
Chicago, Detroit and Portland, would he choose Portland assuming the offers are the
same?

If its up to Jodi, she might want Becky Hammon to replace Chauncey for that who she
might have preferred before Chauncey was hired

Re: Chauncey Billups Now Odds-On Favorite To Be Next Coach Fired

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 6:40 am
by The Sebastian Express
BNM wrote:
The Sebastian Express wrote:So is Jody cheap or is she overpaying for a coach who has never coached a day in his life. Could we maintain some consistency here.


She overpaid for an inexperienced coach because she was too cheap to pay for a real NBA head coach with a proven resume.


Well that's revisionist history, BNM. You know that too. Billups was hired because Dame named him and Olshey wanted him too.

Let's not get it twisted.

Re: Chauncey Billups Now Odds-On Favorite To Be Next Coach Fired

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 4:33 pm
by m0ng0
Are we really trying to win this year?

Re: Chauncey Billups Now Odds-On Favorite To Be Next Coach Fired

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 11:31 pm
by Shem
BNM wrote:
The Sebastian Express wrote:So is Jody cheap or is she overpaying for a coach who has never coached a day in his life. Could we maintain some consistency here.


She overpaid for an inexperienced coach because she was too cheap to pay for a real NBA head coach with a proven resume.

Did Steve Kerr have a proven resume before being hired by the Warriors?

Re: Chauncey Billups Now Odds-On Favorite To Be Next Coach Fired

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2024 2:15 am
by JasonStern
Zero chance Billups gets fired. This isn't the SPAM era, ownership is indifferent, and Billups has a dozen excuses for poor performances.

Re: Chauncey Billups Now Odds-On Favorite To Be Next Coach Fired

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2024 3:19 am
by Moonbeam
Yes, please! May he and Cronin find opportunities elsewhere.

Re: Chauncey Billups Now Odds-On Favorite To Be Next Coach Fired

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2024 3:44 am
by valleyman33
Norm2953 wrote:I'd like to see Portland's next coach to be like coach Bud but with potential open jobs in
Chicago, Detroit and Portland, would he choose Portland assuming the offers are the
same?

If its up to Jodi, she might want Becky Hammon to replace Chauncey for that who she
might have preferred before Chauncey was hired

Hey an assistant coach under Pop for 6 years sure beat Chauncy's resume. I would have liked to see what she could have done, rather than the struggles Chauncy had. A female head coach is going to happen sometime, and apart from the fact she has a better coaching resume, for me at this point anyone but Chauncy! :)

Re: Chauncey Billups Now Odds-On Favorite To Be Next Coach Fired

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:49 pm
by JasonStern
Becky Hammond would be a huge upgrade over Chauncey. But this is coming from a guy who once broke down the 1990s movie Air Bud and explained how a fictional basketball playing dog had more court awareness and play calling - despite being a dog that can't talk - than Chauncey Billups.

Re: Chauncey Billups Now Odds-On Favorite To Be Next Coach Fired

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2024 11:23 pm
by BNM
Shem wrote:
BNM wrote:
The Sebastian Express wrote:So is Jody cheap or is she overpaying for a coach who has never coached a day in his life. Could we maintain some consistency here.


She overpaid for an inexperienced coach because she was too cheap to pay for a real NBA head coach with a proven resume.

Did Steve Kerr have a proven resume before being hired by the Warriors?


She overpaid for an inexperienced coach because she was too cheap to pay for a real NBA head coach with a proven resume.[/quote]
Did Steve Kerr have a proven resume before being hired by the Warriors?[/quote]

LOL!!! Did you just compare Chauncey Billups to Steve Kerr???? Really???

Steve Kerr record through 219 game = 186 - 33
Chauncey Billups record through 219 games = 75 - 144

Kerr knew how to coach on day one and t was obvious. After nearly three seasons, Chauncey still has zero clues what a modern NBA offense looks like. Unfortunately, that is also obvious.

Re: Chauncey Billups Now Odds-On Favorite To Be Next Coach Fired

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2024 4:46 am
by tester551
BNM wrote:
Shem wrote:
BNM wrote:


She overpaid for an inexperienced coach because she was too cheap to pay for a real NBA head coach with a proven resume.

Did Steve Kerr have a proven resume before being hired by the Warriors?


LOL!!! Did you just compare Chauncey Billups to Steve Kerr???? Really???

Steve Kerr record through 219 game = 186 - 33
Chauncey Billups record through 219 games = 75 - 144

Kerr knew how to coach on day one and t was obvious. After nearly three seasons, Chauncey still has zero clues what a modern NBA offense looks like. Unfortunately, that is also obvious.


Not defending Chauncey here, but I REALLY hate these type of arguments. It completely ignores the roster makeup and talent.... which has a bigger influence than anything else.

I mean look at how Kerr is doing this season... 500 ball (not exactly 'elite').

What about Pop? Did he forget how to coach? He's gone 67 - 154 the last 3 seasons. He has a worse record than Billups does over that period.

Re: Chauncey Billups Now Odds-On Favorite To Be Next Coach Fired

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2024 1:56 am
by BNM
tester551 wrote:
BNM wrote:
Shem wrote:Did Steve Kerr have a proven resume before being hired by the Warriors?


LOL!!! Did you just compare Chauncey Billups to Steve Kerr???? Really???

Steve Kerr record through 219 game = 186 - 33
Chauncey Billups record through 219 games = 75 - 144

Kerr knew how to coach on day one and t was obvious. After nearly three seasons, Chauncey still has zero clues what a modern NBA offense looks like. Unfortunately, that is also obvious.


Not defending Chauncey here, but I REALLY hate these type of arguments. It completely ignores the roster makeup and talent.... which has a bigger influence than anything else.

I mean look at how Kerr is doing this season... 500 ball (not exactly 'elite').

What about Pop? Did he forget how to coach? He's gone 67 - 154 the last 3 seasons. He has a worse record than Billups does over that period.


I hate these kind of excuse filled arguments. Chauncey wasn't hired to be a tank commander. He was hired to win with Damian Lillard in his prime. OK, we can play the injury excuse card for year one (we could also play that same excuse for GSW's record this season - which at 29-26 is still better than anything Chauncey has ever done).

Second year starting line up:
Jusuf Nurkic: 13.3ppg, 0.589 TS%
Jerami Grant: 20.5 ppg, 0.606 TS%
Josh Hart: 9.5 ppg, 0.586 TS%
Anfernee Simons: 21.1 ppg, 0.581 TS%
Damian Lillard: 32.2 ppg, 0.645 TS%

Does that look like the starting line up of a lottery team to you? It sure looks like a play off team to me. You have Damian Lillard having the best season of his career, by a wide margin. You have an entire starting five that scores at, or above the league average efficiency, including two additional 20+ ppg scorers.

That was the best pair of starting forwards Lillard played with since Aldridge + Batum.

So what kept that team from making the playoffs? No, it wasn't injuries. They shut down Dame, Ant, Nurk, traded Hart, etc. after it was obvious they wouldn't even sniff the play-in.

The answer: it was Chauncey's complete ineptitude. POR had the talent to regularly have double digit leads at the half, only to lead the league, by a wide margin, in blown second half double digit leads (14 and counting when they decided to shut it down and tank). How does a team with that much offensive talent constantly get out scored by double digits in the second half? Simple, other real NBA coaches coached circles around Chauncey. Make one simple adjustment at the half and Chauncey is clueless how to respond. Time after time after time after time, you could just see those big leads vanish while Chauncey made ZETRO counter adjustments.

POR was consistently a top 3 clutch time team under Stotts and they had Damian Lillard having the best season of his career. Yet, under Chauncey, they couldn't score to save their lives with the game on the line. I have no idea what kind of plays Chauncey was calling, but neither did the players. They consistently turned the ball over and often couldn't even get a shot off before the shot clock expired.

Remember - 14 blown double digit second half leads - WHEN THEY WERE TRYING TO WIN AND MAKE THE PLAYOFFS. They did not start the season with the goal of tanking, but Chauncey is the reason they ended up there. Based on the roster, that team greatly underachieved, and Chauncey was the reason why.

He's also doing a terrible job developing the young talent. The only think he's capable of teaching them is how to lose - a lot.

He was not the right coach for a win now team and he's also not the right coach to develop young players. He simply has no idea how to run a modern NBA offense. POR is dead last in AST/G, 29th in PTS/G and ORtg, 28th in TOV/G and dead last in TS%. Yes they have some young guys, but they also have veterans like Jerami Grant, Anfernee Simons, Malcom Brogdon and De'Andre Ayton - all proven veterans that have regularly scored at above league average efficiency - until they played for Chauncey.

They have, flat out, the worst offense in the league. No player movement, no ball movement, just endless ISOs that lead to TOVs and low percentage shots. POR gets so few assists, because they don't move the ball - yet they are 28th in TOVs? How is that possible? Chauncey, that's how.

Keep bringing the excuses, but relative to expectations and roster, this team has underachieved every year under Chauncey. No, they didn't have the talent GSW had early in Kerr's coaching career, but Kerr coached that team up from 51 wins and a 1st round exit to 67 wins and an NBA Championship in his first season, with virtually the same roster Mark Jackson had the year before. Kerr consistently coaches his roster up, Chauncey consistently coaches his roster down.

Re: Chauncey Billups Now Odds-On Favorite To Be Next Coach Fired

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2024 2:04 am
by RTG HD
What if the easier explanation is that Jody is too apathetic to care what happens with the Blazers because it is just one small part of the Paul Alan estate and she has other interests to focus on?