The official #5 pick thread

[RIPskaterdude]

I just hope that IF we trade down, we pick up an actual POSITIVE impact type player, NOT someone like Salmons. I have no absolutely NO idea why we traded Beno for him AND moved down in the draft. None.

[SacKingZZZ]

No, Moultrie is probably a Jason Thompson clone.

check out Moultrie's measurements and athletic testings.

Hahaha, I did and draft express has his best case as Kris Humphries and his worst case as.....Jason Thompson. He's a skilled big, both comparisons are about right, Kings don't need any more skilled bigs.

[SacKingZZZ]

You guys are potentially in a really good position draft-wise.

FWIW, sounds like Beal came out on top in the workout with Barnes in Cleveland, so Barnes likely drops to 5 with Drummond. Could see a competition between Toronto (Barnes at top of their board), Detroit (Drummond), GS (Barnes), Por (Drummond) and Philly (Drummond) to trade up for that pick to ensure they get their man.

Depending on how committed you are to taking Drummond or Barnes. I hear your management may like Henson and you can just see who makes it most your while to trade down.

That's the way I feel, I kind of feel like the hands of fate are bailing the Kings out here by putting them in a position to finally fill a major need regardless of what happens above them. Still, just watch "With the 5th pick...Dion Waiters".

I'm just not so sure of the kind of value any of those 3 are going to have for teams lower, nor do I think they have much to offer to sweeten the deal if it needs to be expanded too far. You're realistically looking at teams from 6-8 if they want Henson. This crap of him going 18-19 is just that, crap. So, are the Warriors or Raps in love with either Barnes or Drummond and do they have anything the Kings would want to sweeten things? One good thing is both teams have major potential need filler for Sacramento.

Two trades I've been thinking about are:

Sac trades #5 and the Warriors trade #7 and Dorrel Wright. Not bad getting one of the best 3 point spot shooting SF's in the league last year for a team needed just that and also getting the player you covet anyway.

Sac trades #5/filler for the Raps #8 and Amir Johnson or Ed Davis. Both are defensive/shotblocking specialists so you could end the night with 48 minutes of the exact type of player you want at PF.

[SacKingZZZ]

I just hope that IF we trade down, we pick up an actual POSITIVE impact type player, NOT someone like Salmons. I have no absolutely NO idea why we traded Beno for him AND moved down in the draft. None.

In all fairness, before John went down with that mysterious "hip injury" he was playing a lot better off the bench. That team could have worked in some ways but it was the perfect example of having too many offensive talents and not enough of the dirty work guys. Then the dirty work guys you did have seemed to only play together off the bench, the coaching of it was a major issue for almost all of last season.

[RIPskaterdude]

Speaking of which, that "hip injury" never really was talked about. In fact, I don't even think he traveled with the team, did he? I wonder if he complained about his role/playing time...

[pillwenney]

Not particularly interested in the Raptors idea. The Warriors idea could have legs though.

[dozencousins]

I see this draft Petrie & the Kings doing alot of activity . This is to say an accumulation either way of prior to the draft , draft day & even after the draft moves .
I see big splashes coming . I do not see him standing pat with just picks . I believe we will get alot of sweet offers as we are in the drivers seat having a nice group of young talent , salary cap etc. & many teams will be making moves just to lower their payroll.

[gswhoops]

Quick question for Kings' fans: I read the other day on Yahoo Sports that you guys wouldn't take Drummond because you don't have time to wait on his development...is there any truth to this?

Sacramento's front office and coaching staff are reportedly leaning toward picking the player who can help the most next season. They do not have the job security to wait on a prospect like Andre Drummond who could take two to three years to develop. With that in mind, Barnes is both the safest and most logical pick here considering how weak the Kings are at small forward.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/y-sports-d ... s1zL.8vLYF

And as an aside, I would definitely take #5 for Wright/#7 as a Warriors fan. I guess you guys would be targeting Henson at 7?

[Cruel_Ruin]

Quick question for Kings' fans: I read the other day on Yahoo Sports that you guys wouldn't take Drummond because you don't have time to wait on his development...is there any truth to this?

Sacramento's front office and coaching staff are reportedly leaning toward picking the player who can help the most next season. They do not have the job security to wait on a prospect like Andre Drummond who could take two to three years to develop. With that in mind, Barnes is both the safest and most logical pick here considering how weak the Kings are at small forward.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/y-sports-d ... s1zL.8vLYF

And as an aside, I would definitely take #5 for Wright/#7 as a Warriors fan. I guess you guys would be targeting Henson at 7?

It sounds like speculation but is probably somewhere close to the truth. The Kings have been rebuilding for a while, its time to produce results. They're only a few roleplayers away from playoff contention anyways.

[SacKingsPejaFan]

Quick question for Kings' fans: I read the other day on Yahoo Sports that you guys wouldn't take Drummond because you don't have time to wait on his development...is there any truth to this?

Sacramento's front office and coaching staff are reportedly leaning toward picking the player who can help the most next season. They do not have the job security to wait on a prospect like Andre Drummond who could take two to three years to develop. With that in mind, Barnes is both the safest and most logical pick here considering how weak the Kings are at small forward.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/y-sports-d ... s1zL.8vLYF

And as an aside, I would definitely take #5 for Wright/#7 as a Warriors fan. I guess you guys would be targeting Henson at 7?

I haven't seen any of the Kings brass comment publicly one way or the other. But I think the general tenor in Sacramento is impatience. We've been in the gutter for more than 3 years now as teams that used to be our peers continue to make the playoffs. Recall that when we got Evans, we had the best shot at landing the first pick, and we've been hovering around the worst record in the league since. Also consider that we finally found ourselves a franchise player in Demarcus Cousins who we can't lock up for another two years. It's been my position that we need to get to the playoffs in two years, or we won't be able to keep him. Finally, with our revolving door of coaches, I could see at least Smart pressuring Petrie to take an instant-impact player or to trade the pick for an instant-impact player. Petrie's job security I don't think is at risk, though, based on continued public support by the Maloofs. So whether job security is a factor in the Kings' next move probably depends on how much Petrie listens to Smart. At this point, I don't know whether he does or not.

Regarding your trade proposal, I'd probably do it unless someone who shouldn't fall to 5 actually does.

[dozencousins]

Quick question for Kings' fans: I read the other day on Yahoo Sports that you guys wouldn't take Drummond because you don't have time to wait on his development...is there any truth to this?

Sacramento's front office and coaching staff are reportedly leaning toward picking the player who can help the most next season. They do not have the job security to wait on a prospect like Andre Drummond who could take two to three years to develop. With that in mind, Barnes is both the safest and most logical pick here considering how weak the Kings are at small forward.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/y-sports-d ... s1zL.8vLYF

And as an aside, I would definitely take #5 for Wright/#7 as a Warriors fan. I guess you guys would be targeting Henson at 7?

IMO :

I see Barnes going # 2 or # 4 and Barnes is 1 of 3 guys the KINGS want if they keep their # 5 pick the other 2 are M.K.G. & DRUMMOND . Unless M.K.G. slips to # 5 wich I doubt the Kings take Drummond & keep him . If for some odd reason all 3 are gone by the time we pick the #5 pick will be traded .

I could see us trading the pick to the 76ers if we landed Iggy though I am conflicted because after next season he has a player option & he will want the farm salary wise orhe can walk . I dont see us giving him the 16 -20 million per season he likely will try to get .

If we draft Drummond expect to see 1 of either Hayes , J.T. or Whiteside traded though I dont think Hayes would be the one dealtbecause if nothing else he has been a big help to DMC'S growth and is needed to help contunue that proccess at least for now. Reke could get dealt IMO gaining us another pick IMO that could land us the #2 pick if so we select M.K.G & DRUMMOND .

[SacKingZZZ]

The way I see it is they'll want Barnes if he's at 5 and they worked him out. If not they'll first try and trade down to get Henson. If they don't like the deals they get in return they'll take Drummond if Barnes isn't there.

[SadKingsFan]

Iggy is a nice player, but can he shoot? We really need more shooters on this besides the glaring weakness at point guard and power forward. Small forward just isn't that important to me right now. We need that, but it shouldn't be a top 2 priority IMO

[bibby1023]

Iggy is a nice player, but can he shoot? We really need more shooters on this besides the glaring weakness at point guard and power forward. Small forward just isn't that important to me right now. We need that, but it shouldn't be a top 2 priority IMO

I'm not sure how much more of Outlaw and Salmons I can take.

[boogie-reke]

Iggy is a nice player, but can he shoot? We really need more shooters on this besides the glaring weakness at point guard and power forward. Small forward just isn't that important to me right now. We need that, but it shouldn't be a top 2 priority IMO

Iggy is one of the best catch and shoot players in the league for quite some time now - which is what we basically need from him once DeMarcus start demanding double teams on a more consistent basis, and with Tyreke's dishouts.