CHUCK HAYES

Call Me Geoff · Post #31 » by **Call Me Geoff** » Tue Dec 6, 2011 1:17 am

I love the idea of adding Chuck Hayes. He's coming off his best season, is just entering his prime and brings the work ethic and leadership our young guys need to be influenced by. He fills a perfect role for the Kings and that is just as valuable as adding a starter IMO. I'd love to see us keep Dally as well. Maybe dump JT for another PG (Teague?). I don't see JT in the long term plans for this team, it will be interesting to see if Petrie looks to deal him.

SacKingZZZ · Post #32 » by **SacKingZZZ** » Tue Dec 6, 2011 1:26 am

Just saw this one on hoopshype:

Dalembert told FOX Sports Florida last week three teams he’s targeting are the Heat, New York and Houston. It sounds as if the Rockets, with a gaping hole at center due to the retirement of Yao Ming and plenty of money to spend in free agency, are his preference at this point. “Houston, that one is the best," said Dalembert. He later added, “I’m interested in the Rockets. They have a good team over there, a running team."

http://www.foxsportsflorida.com/12/05/11/Free-agents-Salary-cap-hurts-Heats-appea/landing_heat.html?blockID=619990&feedID=3722

My feeling since TraderJoe mentioned Daly to Houston is that is where he'll end up because they need a C and have more than the MLE if they let Hayes go. Hmmm...can you do double sign and trades?

Website · Post #33 » by **Nicky Nix Nook** » Tue Dec 6, 2011 1:32 am

SacKingZZZ wrote:Just saw this one on hoopshype:

Dalembert told FOX Sports Florida last week three teams he’s targeting are the Heat, New York and Houston. It sounds as if the Rockets, with a gaping hole at center due to the retirement of Yao Ming and plenty of money to spend in free agency, are his preference at this point. “Houston, that one is the best," said Dalembert. He later added, “I’m interested in the Rockets. They have a good team over there, a running team."

http://www.foxsportsflorida.com/12/05/11/Free-agents-Salary-cap-hurts-Heats-appea/landing_heat.html?blockID=619990&feedID=3722

My feeling since TraderJoe mentioned Daly to Houston is that is where he'll end up because they need a C and have more than the MLE if they let Hayes go. Hmmm...can you do double sign and trades?

Fine! I never liked him anyway! *runs away crying*

Call Me Geoff · Post #34 » by **Call Me Geoff** » Tue Dec 6, 2011 1:44 am

The thought of getting into a bidding war with Houston scares me. I'd rather pony up the cash for Nene than sign Dally to big time money. The more I think about it Houston may be doing us a favor.

SacKingZZZ · Post #35 » by **SacKingZZZ** » Tue Dec 6, 2011 1:58 am

Call Me Geoff wrote:The thought of getting into a bidding war with Houston scares me. I'd rather pony up the cash for Nene than sign Dally to big time money. The more I think about it Houston may be doing us a favor.

Like I've been saying for months now, I really don't think Petrie wants to re-sign Dalembert. Depending on what the free agency chances are now that numbers are out there it could change, but it just seems like a very un "Petrie" like move for him to re-sign Dalembert unless it's a steal of a deal. I also think Dalembert has gotten the idea and if he didn't after the kind of love affair in the papers the Maloofs were having about re-signing Thornton where Daly's name kind of got tagged in there at the end I don't know what it would take.

Also I would like to add that I agree Dalembert is good for this team but it comes at what price?

Call Me Geoff · Post #36 » by **Call Me Geoff** » Tue Dec 6, 2011 2:08 am

It wouldn't surprise me one bit to see Petrie go hard at Chandler or Nene. We always seem to be the darkhorse that nobody mentions. The last time we had this much cap space we ended up with a big man named Vlade Divac. Just sayin...

mnWI · Post #37 » by **mnWI** » Wed Dec 7, 2011 3:05 am

Chuck Hayes to Sac is a done deal.

ADoaN17 · Post #38 » by **ADoaN17** » Wed Dec 7, 2011 3:14 am

mnWI wrote:Chuck Hayes to Sac is a done deal.

from where?

mnWI · Post #39 » by **mnWI** » Wed Dec 7, 2011 3:25 am

ADoaN17 wrote:
mnWI wrote:Chuck Hayes to Sac is a done deal.

from where?

If you want media confirmation you'll have to wait. But it's done.

OGSactownballer · Post #40 » by **OGSactownballer** » Wed Dec 7, 2011 3:30 am

Should be pretty cheap at least. And the nice part here is that he can pester the shift out of PF's I stead of trying to guard centers.

I go with the guys out there that say go ahead and throw max at Gasol (who is actually worth a four year max) and dare Heisley to actually pay him.

ADoaN17 · Post #41 » by **ADoaN17** » Wed Dec 7, 2011 3:32 am

mnWI wrote:
ADoaN17 wrote:
mnWI wrote:Chuck Hayes to Sac is a done deal.

from where?

If you want media confirmation you'll have to wait. But it's done.

Well if its done this early, I feel the Kings must have offered LOTS of money.

Post #42 » by **KF10** » Wed Dec 7, 2011 3:39 am

mnWI wrote:Chuck Hayes to Sac is a done deal.

Please cheap, please cheap, please cheap.

No more of full MLE stuff for ok players.

dozencousins · Post #43 » by **dozencousins** » Wed Dec 7, 2011 3:52 am

I hope this is not true at all .

SacTown Kings · Post #44 » by **SacTown Kings** » Wed Dec 7, 2011 4:03 am

dozencousins wrote:I hope this is not true at all .

I feel your pain brotha!

dozencousins · Post #45 » by **dozencousins** » Wed Dec 7, 2011 4:05 am

SacTown Kings wrote:
dozencousins wrote:I hope this is not true at all .

I feel your pain brotha!

Yah I hear ya , He is way undersized at his position .
I think he would be a mistake .

SacTown Kings · Post #46 » by **SacTown Kings** » Wed Dec 7, 2011 4:18 am

It's not only that but he is such a liability on offense it's like playing 4 on 5 on offense. The other teams D can double up on our scorers with no hesitation. Not to mention he is a terrible free throw shooter. I can't remember how many games we lost by missing free throws last year <sigh> this blows.

dozencousins · Post #47 » by **dozencousins** » Wed Dec 7, 2011 4:22 am

SacTown Kings wrote:It's not only that but he is such a liability on offense it's like playing 4 on 5 on offense. The other teams D can double up on our scorers with no hesitation. Not to mention he is a terrible free throw shooter. I can't remember how many games we lost by missing free throws last year <sigh> this blows.

I agree . I have heard we had some interest in him . Though I think he is a mistake . That said I wonder how much truth to the user that said it was done really is ? Usually if a deal is done it will come out via espn , sportwriters etc. . So far nothing . Hope it just a hoax ?

Post #48 » by **KF10** » Wed Dec 7, 2011 4:24 am

It isn't like we are going to lose offense if we insert Hayes on court. Sammy wasn't really a factor offensively other than dunking, tip ins & the occasional J.

To me, this would make it easier to distribute shots to the other guys. Especially, a guy like Salmons will need his.

dozencousins · Post #49 » by **dozencousins** » Wed Dec 7, 2011 4:28 am

KF10 wrote:It isn't like we are going to lose offense if we insert Hayes on court. Sammy wasn't really a factor offensively other than dunking, tip ins & the occasional J.

To me, this would make it easier to distribute shots to the other guys. Especially, a guy like Salmons will need his.

Yes but again Hayes is way undersized and IMO he would be a better fit if he played a smaller position for his size . I do not feel he would be much of a factor defensively playing against the majority being significantly taller at the same position .
I would feel better if its a 1 year deal but I seriously doubt that.

SacTown Kings · Post #50 » by **SacTown Kings** » Wed Dec 7, 2011 4:45 am

KF10 wrote:It isn't like we are going to lose offense if we insert Hayes on court. Sammy wasn't really a factor offensively other than dunking, tip ins & the occasional J.

To me, this would make it easier to distribute shots to the other guys. Especially, a guy like Salmons will need his.

Sammy actually showed some good offense last year. I was impressed with his mid jump shot, I never thought he had that in his game. Sam had a much better offensive game than Hayes IMO. But the point is we aren't losing offense directly it's that having Hayes in the lineup allows the other team to play off him more so our scorers will have a harder time scoring. Daly at least kept the other teams defense in check to a certain degree.