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Re: Kings Keeper League 2011-2012

Posted: Mon Dec 5, 2011 4:49 am
by OGSactownballer
OGSactownballer wrote:I'm here and I am keeping Love, Cousins and Randolph for certain.

I'm still hedging on my fourth.


I think I'll just go with Beasley as my fourth keeper since none of the others really have me thinking "keep him!".

Re: Kings Keeper League 2011-2012

Posted: Mon Dec 5, 2011 4:16 pm
by mobiuseinz
Im keeping:

Kobe Bryant
LaMarcus Aldrige
Brook Lopez
Al Jefferson

Re: Kings Keeper League 2011-2012

Posted: Mon Dec 5, 2011 8:46 pm
by pillwenney
OGSactownballer wrote:OK, I logged on from the invite. Sorry it took a bit, we had my bro-in-laws wedding this weekend. I had forgot tomwntion that the timing is really bad for me for the draft because we have a big family holiday party at my house starting at 2:00 that day. Any chance of either different day or a later time?


Absolutely. I just set the draft at that day and time because it wouldn't let me proceed without entering something.


Well it appears everyone has returned. But we also have two that would like to join. What do you guys think? Is there a way to do this effectively with a keeper league?

Re: Kings Keeper League 2011-2012

Posted: Mon Dec 5, 2011 8:57 pm
by ADoaN17
pillwenney wrote:
OGSactownballer wrote:OK, I logged on from the invite. Sorry it took a bit, we had my bro-in-laws wedding this weekend. I had forgot tomwntion that the timing is really bad for me for the draft because we have a big family holiday party at my house starting at 2:00 that day. Any chance of either different day or a later time?


Absolutely. I just set the draft at that day and time because it wouldn't let me proceed without entering something.


Well it appears everyone has returned. But we also have two that would like to join. What do you guys think? Is there a way to do this effectively with a keeper league?

Maybe we can do it this week? I have finals next week so that won't be ideal for me.

Re: Kings Keeper League 2011-2012

Posted: Mon Dec 5, 2011 9:16 pm
by pillwenney
The problem with doing it this early is that there's still an entire offseason to go through that could potentially drastically change the value of a pick.

I'd rather wait and do it closer to Christmas. That's going to be tough schedule-wise for me because I work during the week at nights (and I assume during the week during days would be tough for most of you), but hopefully we can figure something out--like maybe Christmas Eve or something. Otherwise, we can do a draft that isn't live. That wouldn't be the end of the world.

Right now I want to focus on whether or not adding other teams would be doable. I'm hoping some of you guys who have more experience with leagues like this can give some input.

Re: Kings Keeper League 2011-2012

Posted: Mon Dec 5, 2011 11:00 pm
by Wolfay
I prefer doing the draft closer to Christmas as well, since I have final exams and auditions that I need to intensely prepare for.

As for this-

pillwenney wrote:Right now I want to focus on whether or not adding other teams would be doable. I'm hoping some of you guys who have more experience with leagues like this can give some input.


I don't know, but perhaps reduce the number of keepers and let the new guys pick a few dudes or whatever before the draft, so they can at least have some top 40 players on their roster. That, or we just start all over. No keepers and have a lottery to determine draft order.

Re: Kings Keeper League 2011-2012

Posted: Mon Dec 5, 2011 11:16 pm
by ADoaN17
Wolfay wrote:I prefer doing the draft closer to Christmas as well, since I have final exams and auditions that I need to intensely prepare for.

As for this-

pillwenney wrote:Right now I want to focus on whether or not adding other teams would be doable. I'm hoping some of you guys who have more experience with leagues like this can give some input.


I don't know, but perhaps reduce the number of keepers and let the new guys pick a few dudes or whatever before the draft, so they can at least have some top 40 players on their roster. That, or we just start all over. No keepers and have a lottery to determine draft order.

Well I joined last year and chose keepers from my new team.

Re: Kings Keeper League 2011-2012

Posted: Mon Dec 5, 2011 11:23 pm
by pillwenney
Didn't you take over somebody else's team that already had its players set up?

Re: Kings Keeper League 2011-2012

Posted: Mon Dec 5, 2011 11:55 pm
by OGSactownballer
Yes he did and so did I, but I made it work pretty well for a first timer.

I'm all for making it three keepers and adding the other two who want in. As far as I can see they are both regular valued posters from the board and would be a great addition to the league.

Also I am completely flexible about any day/time outside of 7-11pm on Saturday the 17th, and the 18th until at least 8 or 9 o'clock.

Re: Kings Keeper League 2011-2012

Posted: Tue Dec 6, 2011 12:01 am
by pillwenney
Alright. If a few others get behind that idea, we'll do that.

Re: Kings Keeper League 2011-2012

Posted: Tue Dec 6, 2011 12:34 am
by Wolfay
I'm all for letting those guys in.

Re: Kings Keeper League 2011-2012

Posted: Tue Dec 6, 2011 3:18 am
by ADoaN17
pillwenney wrote:Didn't you take over somebody else's team that already had its players set up?

Sorta, I saw his team from the year before and took 4 and drafted the rest.

Re: Kings Keeper League 2011-2012

Posted: Tue Dec 6, 2011 4:02 am
by OGSactownballer
I'm ok with the "start fresh with a total draft" idea as well.

It makes sense if we are expanding the league, but I'm newer and I'll see what the guys who have been around say.

Re: Kings Keeper League 2011-2012

Posted: Tue Dec 6, 2011 6:03 am
by KingInExile
I'm ok with adding 2 more teams, although adding them while maintaining the original keeper format can be problematic. Thinking out loud, how is this for an expansion draft idea...

All current teams keep 3 from their current roster instead of 4.
The 2 new teams do an off-line expansion draft to fill their 3 "keepers" from the remaining pool of non-rookie players (idea is for all teams to start the draft with 3 players who were in the league last year).
The new teams get picks 1 and 2 in the first round and the existing teams get picks 3-12 based on a lottery (compensates the new teams for the fact that they won't likely have access to top 30 players).

Anyway, just an idea of how to expand. Thoughts?

Re: Kings Keeper League 2011-2012

Posted: Tue Dec 6, 2011 6:31 am
by Wolfay
KingInExile wrote:I'm ok with adding 2 more teams, although adding them while maintaining the original keeper format can be problematic. Thinking out loud, how is this for an expansion draft idea...

All current teams keep 3 from their current roster instead of 4.
The 2 new teams do an off-line expansion draft to fill their 3 "keepers" from the remaining pool of non-rookie players (idea is for all teams to start the draft with 3 players who were in the league last year).
The new teams get picks 1 and 2 in the first round and the existing teams get picks 3-12 based on a lottery (compensates the new teams for the fact that they won't likely have access to top 30 players).

Anyway, just an idea of how to expand. Thoughts?


This is kinda what I thought of, and I like this idea. I'm not at all opposed to giving up a keeper and giving them the first picks. Other than doing a complete reset, I think this is the fair thing to do.

Re: Kings Keeper League 2011-2012

Posted: Tue Dec 6, 2011 6:39 am
by OGSactownballer
Either way works fine for me, but that is well thought out.

Re: Kings Keeper League 2011-2012

Posted: Tue Dec 6, 2011 11:08 pm
by pillwenney
Yeah that sounds like a plan. I'll give people another day or two to object, and if nobody does, then we'll put that plan into action.

Re: Kings Keeper League 2011-2012

Posted: Wed Dec 7, 2011 4:28 am
by mobiuseinz
w/e Kobe Aldrige and Lopez then for me

Re: Kings Keeper League 2011-2012

Posted: Wed Dec 7, 2011 6:22 pm
by RoyalCourtJestr
Lamesause, only three keepers? I think a ten team league is more than enough, personally.

But if we're gonna do it, I'll keep

Derrick Rose
Blake Griffin
Tyreke Evans

Re: Kings Keeper League 2011-2012

Posted: Wed Dec 7, 2011 7:37 pm
by ADoaN17
How many more people are we talking about? 10 seems good but I'd be willing to go to a MAX of 12. In that case I'll take Dirk, Curry, DWill.