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Top 5 PG prospects for 2013

Postby Golabki on Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:30 pm

I think they is a great year for PGs. Here's how I rank them now.

1. Burke - great looking pure point
2. Smart - highest defensive potential, with his developing offensive game
3. Young - combo-guard with upside
4. Carter-Williams - a couple years older than the top 3, but has a unique skill set
5. Jackson - quality PG, but probably a reserve in NBA
6. McCollom - interesting prospect, but I don't see him as top 5, a bit overrated IMO

I think the top 3 are all lotto level and CW is mid/late first.
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Re: Top 5 PG prospects for 2013

Postby Cammo101 on Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:24 pm

IMO...

1. Marcus Smart
2. Trey Burke
3. Phil Pressey
4. Michael Carter-Williams
5. CJ McCollum
6. Isaiah Canaan
7. Leo Westermann
8. Myck Kabongo
9. Deonte Burton
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Re: Top 5 PG prospects for 2013

Postby Golabki on Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:55 pm

Cammo101 wrote:IMO...

1. Marcus Smart
2. Trey Burke
3. Phil Pressey
4. Michael Carter-Williams
5. CJ McCollum
6. Isaiah Canaan
7. Leo Westermann
8. Myck Kabongo
9. Deonte Burton
10. Lorenzo Brown
I wouldn't argue against Smart at #1. I think the top two are very good.

I like Pressey as a second rounder drafted to be a bench player, but I don't think he'll be an average NBA starting PG.

Where's BJ Young? I are you considering him a SG? If so, I think that's fair, he's probably most likely to end up at SG, although it will depend on who drafts him.
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Re: Top 5 PG prospects for 2013

Postby [RCG] on Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:59 pm

1. Marcus Smart - more of a combo
2. Michael Carter-Williams - good size, pure point.
3. CJ McCollum - more of a combo
4. Trey Burke - a little under-sized

Those four are in a tier above IMO but none are great prospects or favored to go in the top-10
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Re: Top 5 PG prospects for 2013

Postby Cammo101 on Tue Jan 08, 2013 8:38 pm

I think BJ Young is a SG and not likely to end up in this draft.

I also think Pressey will be an NBA starter. He is a stud.
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Re: Top 5 PG prospects for 2013

Postby Ruzious on Wed Jan 09, 2013 4:06 am

I love Pressey - he may be my favorite college player to watch - but... I agree with Golabki that the best way to use him in the NBA is off the bench - where he could wear out the opposition for short stretches with his speed and relentless play - and his lack of size won't be the issue it'd be if he was playing 35 minutes a game. He's a rare player that even though I project him as a backup, I'd put him in the top 25 picks.

What do people think about the 2 UConn hybrids - Napier and Boatright. Napier kinda reminds me of Lou Williams - with his shot selection and ability to score. Boatright reminds me of a poor man's Iverson - with his cockiness and willingness to take it to the rack no matter how you defend him. Despite their lack of discipline, I think they've really benefited from Kevin Ollie coming in there to settle them down and play in a more team-oriented manner.

And what about the 2 little guards on Louisville - Peyton Siva and Russ Smith? I'd hate to play against them - they are as pesky a pair of guards as I've seen - but are they big enough and skilled enough to play in the NBA? My gut tells me Smith belongs in the NBA - as he's an electric ball defender, but Siva's really playing the point in their offense, and Smith's not a good shooter.

Brandon Young is another PG to consider - not flashy at all but very solid for DePaul.

Top 5 as of now?

1. Burke (easy choice)
2. Smart (easy choice)
3. CJ McCollum (harder choice)
4. Phil Pressey
5. Michael Carter Williams
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Re: Top 5 PG prospects for 2013

Postby Golabki on Wed Jan 09, 2013 12:58 pm

Ruzious wrote:I love Pressey - he may be my favorite college player to watch - but... I agree with Golabki that the best way to use him in the NBA is off the bench - where he could wear out the opposition for short stretches with his speed and relentless play - and his lack of size won't be the issue it'd be if he was playing 35 minutes a game. He's a rare player that even though I project him as a backup, I'd put him in the top 25 picks.

What do people think about the 2 UConn hybrids - Napier and Boatright. Napier kinda reminds me of Lou Williams - with his shot selection and ability to score. Boatright reminds me of a poor man's Iverson - with his cockiness and willingness to take it to the rack no matter how you defend him. Despite their lack of discipline, I think they've really benefited from Kevin Ollie coming in there to settle them down and play in a more team-oriented manner.

And what about the 2 little guards on Louisville - Peyton Siva and Russ Smith? I'd hate to play against them - they are as pesky a pair of guards as I've seen - but are they big enough and skilled enough to play in the NBA? My gut tells me Smith belongs in the NBA - as he's an electric ball defender, but Siva's really playing the point in their offense, and Smith's not a good shooter.

Brandon Young is another PG to consider - not flashy at all but very solid for DePaul.

Top 5 as of now?

1. Burke (easy choice)
2. Smart (easy choice)
3. CJ McCollum (harder choice)
4. Phil Pressey
5. Michael Carter Williams
I like Napier a lot as a second rounder. I think he can be an elite defensive PG with adequate offensive game. I think he'll be a great back-up PG who can come in and be a disruptive 1-man press for 15 minutes a game.
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Re: Top 5 PG prospects for 2013

Postby Johnlac1 on Wed Jan 09, 2013 2:32 pm

Golabki wrote:I think they is a great year for PGs. Here's how I rank them now.

1. Burke - great looking pure point
2. Smart - highest defensive potential, with his developing offensive game
3. Young - combo-guard with upside
4. Carter-Williams - a couple years older than the top 3, but has a unique skill set
5. Jackson - quality PG, but probably a reserve in NBA
6. McCollom - interesting prospect, but I don't see him as top 5, a bit overrated IMO

I think the top 3 are all lotto level and CW is mid/late first.

MCW will be the first pg picked.
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Re: Top 5 PG prospects for 2013

Postby [RCG] on Wed Jan 09, 2013 4:17 pm

Golabki wrote:I think they is a great year for PGs.


I'm assuming you said "I think this is a great year for PGs" in which I couldn't disagree more. I don't think there has been a great PG draft since 2009. It's been John Wall-Kyrie Irving-Damian Lillard and a bunch of mediocre prospects the past couple drafts and this year we can take out the headliner and keep the mediocre prospects part.

Like I said earlier, none of these guys are bona fide top-10 picks right now and each has his significant weaknesses.
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Re: Top 5 PG prospects for 2013

Postby Ruzious on Wed Jan 09, 2013 6:48 pm

[RCG] wrote:
Golabki wrote:I think they is a great year for PGs.


I'm assuming you said "I think this is a great year for PGs" in which I couldn't disagree more. I don't think there has been a great PG draft since 2009. It's been John Wall-Kyrie Irving-Damian Lillard and a bunch of mediocre prospects the past couple drafts and this year we can take out the headliner and keep the mediocre prospects part.

Like I said earlier, none of these guys are bona fide top-10 picks right now and each has his significant weaknesses.

If Burke and Smart get picked out of the top 10, they will be outright steals, imo.
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Re: Top 5 PG prospects for 2013

Postby [RCG] on Wed Jan 09, 2013 6:55 pm

They shouldn't be picked ahead of:

1. Zeller
2. Noel
3. Muhammad
4. McLemore
5. Bennett
6. Porter
7. Goodwin
8. Poythress
9. Len

I could see Austin, Gobert and Mitchell also going ahead of the first PG taken as well.
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Re: Top 5 PG prospects for 2013

Postby [RCG] on Wed Jan 09, 2013 7:10 pm

As it stands as of a couple days ago:
Chance of taking a PG: HIGH MEDIUM LOW

1. Wizards: John Wall - obvious
2. Cavaliers: Kyrie Irving - obvious
3. Hornets: Greivis Vasquez - could upgrade but PG here would be a reach
4. Bobcats: Kemba Walker - Sessions too, other more pressing needs
5. Pistons: Brandon Knight - Serviceable, PG here would be a reach
6. Suns: Goran Dragic - Serviceable, other more pressing needs
7. Kings: Isaiah Thomas - Could upgrade, though SF is a more pressing need
8. Thunder: Russell Westbrook - obvious
9. Magic: Jameer Nelson - Youth movement, first PG could be taken by Magic
10. Mavericks: Darren Collison - could upgrade here, but might want a young big
11. Celtics: Rajon Rondo - obvious
12. Lakers: Steve Nash - could opt for a young big or someone for when Nash retires
13. Jazz: Mo Williams - could be 2nd PG taken here
14. Timberwolves: Ricky Rubio - obvious
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Re: Top 5 PG prospects for 2013

Postby princeofpalace on Wed Jan 09, 2013 8:45 pm

I could see Detroit drafting a big PG like MCW or Marcus Smart, we could move Knight off the ball. I think Detroit goes with a PG or SG in the draft.

But to answer the question, my top 5 PG prospects in this weak PG draft are

1. Micheal Carter Williams
2. Marcus Smart
3. Trey Burke
4. Phil Pressey
5. CJ McCollum
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Re: Top 5 PG prospects for 2013

Postby crgreen on Wed Jan 09, 2013 9:02 pm

You know, the #1 scorer in Division 1 is a 6'3 PG from the ACC, aveeragine almost 25 pts a game, 5 rebs and 5 assissts, 1.6 steals, a 2:1 ATR, 49% from the field and 87% from the line....and has a decimated roster at 9-5 on the season.

Erick Green of Virginia Tech. I guess if he was doing this at Weber State he'd be the #1 PG prospect, but when you play in the lowly ACC, hard to get noticed :)
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Re: Top 5 PG prospects for 2013

Postby [RCG] on Wed Jan 09, 2013 10:56 pm

crgreen wrote:You know, the #1 scorer in Division 1 is a 6'3 PG from the ACC, aveeragine almost 25 pts a game, 5 rebs and 5 assissts, 1.6 steals, a 2:1 ATR, 49% from the field and 87% from the line....and has a decimated roster at 9-5 on the season.

Erick Green of Virginia Tech. I guess if he was doing this at Weber State he'd be the #1 PG prospect, but when you play in the lowly ACC, hard to get noticed :)


Are you related by chance?

I'm not sure he is a pure point and as a senior with lackluster production the previous three years he'll have to maintain this production throughout the year. He's putting up great numbers though, especially the amount of times he's getting to the line per game. If he can raise his assist totals a bit he could be in the discussion for one of the first PGs taken by the end of the year.
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