who do the Bobcats draft?

Elden Payton · Post #1 » by **Elden Payton** » Mon Mar 7, 2011 5:02 am

If you were the GM of the Bobcats who would you draft this year & why? Currently our pick is at 10 & the 1st rounder from Portland is 19. We have a big need at SF & C & we need depth basically everywhere else.

I'm thinking Kawhi Leonard at 10 (what do you guys think of him?) He replaces Gerald Wallace straight away & in a few years i imagine will be a borderline allstar if his offense comes along as I imagine it will.

The pick at 19 is difficult as the success of the Crash trade will be measured by who we choose with the picks we got in return. I'm thinking Jordan Williams as PF/C backup even though we seem covered in the PF department which would allow Tyrus to slide over to the 3 at times for added support of Kawhi Leonard.

what do you guys think? Who would you pick? What should we do?!!

teamjosh04 · Post #2 » by **teamjosh04** » Mon Mar 7, 2011 8:20 am

All posters on here seem to be so concerned with filling a need. Forget what your team needs, they are in the lottery - no player on the Bobcats is safe. I dont see any players on the Bobcats that are even close to be above average starters a few years down the road. And its not like players are exclusive to one position.

The main impact a team should have on who they draft if it isnt straight BPA should be how they fit into playing style. Also, if your team has a great big man coach who is loyal to the team, you can afford more to draft a project big. If you have quality vets, you can rank a player with character issues higher.

Just go back to threads a few years old and "lol" at reasons why said team shouldnt take player X because they have some journeyman player at that position. In only a few years, many of those guys arent on the team anymore or if they are, they are riding the bench.

/end rant

doc.end · Post #3 » by **doc.end** » Mon Mar 7, 2011 5:06 pm

BPA if top 3, otherwise best euros who could stay in Europe (this is a bit weak draft overall but euro heavy).. There is probable lockout, so really little to no impact till 2012-2013 and they are not able to compete for anything till 2013-2014 when they bigger contracts unload. Bring those Euros in 2013 as mature players on rookie contracts. Draft NCAA stars in 2012, 2013 draft with those 1-3 first round picks (depends on when Chicago gets CHA pick and how PDX will do in 2013). Try to get pieces for future for Cpt Jack as he is too good to be stuck on that team. Unload for pieces other than cap space/money if there would be an offer for him.

GoBobs · Post #4 » by **GoBobs** » Wed Mar 9, 2011 11:42 pm

Bobcats actually have three picks. They have there own pick for the year and two from the Wallace deal, one from the Hornets and one form Portland.

All the pick will likely end up in the 10-20 range give or take a few spots. If there is a possibility to move up and take Jonas Valanciunas at center it might be worth it because the drop off at that position is pretty sudden. It might also be worth it to look at moving multiple picks for a young vet (s Curry). More then likely though I think we take the best player on the board with each pick. Maybe we get lucky and one of those guys turns out to be a good player.

Post #5 » by **BigSlam** » Wed Mar 9, 2011 11:44 pm

GoBobs wrote:Bobcats actually have three picks. They have there own pick for the year and two from the Wallace deal, one from the Hornets and one form Portland.

No, they don't. At least not three 1st round picks.

The Portland pick isn't for this coming draft.

Dr Positivity · Post #6 » by **Dr Positivity** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 1:18 am

If I'm the Bobcats I try to move from #18 or w/e to the lotto by giving Golden State or Houston stuff (both teams are interested in vets). And then see if there's any way those two lotto picks can be turned into a Derrick Williams or Jared Sullinger. They just need anyone with upside.

Post #7 » by **BigSlam** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 2:34 pm

Dr Mufasa wrote:If I'm the Bobcats I try to move from #18 or w/e to the lotto by giving Golden State or Houston stuff (both teams are interested in vets). And then see if there's any way those two lotto picks can be turned into a Derrick Williams or Jared Sullinger. They just need anyone with upside.

Problem there is the investment they have made in Tyrus Thomas and the production he has shown for Charlotte and considerable upside he still has left.

I get what you are saying though.

Post #8 » by **gswhoops** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 10:27 pm

Dr Mufasa wrote:If I'm the Bobcats I try to move from #18 or w/e to the lotto by giving Golden State or Houston stuff (both teams are interested in vets). And then see if there's any way those two lotto picks can be turned into a Derrick Williams or Jared Sullinger. They just need anyone with upside.

Problem is, Charlotte's biggest needs (SF and C) are also GS' biggest needs.

umopapisdn · Post #9 » by **umopapisdn** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 10:56 pm

BPA without a doubt
their best current players are either old or backup quality

jhern87 · Post #10 » by **jhern87** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 7:45 am

Almost always you draft BPA.. And this is exactly what Charlotte needs to do.

Post #11 » by **Ruzious** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 3:24 pm

Sik Infant wrote:If you were the GM of the Bobcats who would you draft this year & why? Currently our pick is at 10 & the 1st rounder from Portland is 19. We have a big need at SF & C & we need depth basically everywhere else.

I'm thinking Kawhi Leonard at 10 (what do you guys think of him?) He replaces Gerald Wallace straight away & in a few years i imagine will be a borderline allstar if his offense comes along as I imagine it will.

The pick at 19 is difficult as the success of the Crash trade will be measured by who we choose with the picks we got in return. I'm thinking Jordan Williams as PF/C backup even though we seem covered in the PF department which would allow Tyrus to slide over to the 3 at times for added support of Kawhi Leonard.

what do you guys think? Who would you pick? What should we do?!!

Just wondering - because I haven't seen Leonard - Why do people prefer him over Faried?

After the way he ended the season, I'd be hugely surprised if Jordan Williams enters the draft. He's got to develop a little jump shot - and his FT shooting was really embarrassing the entire season. And frankly, even though he's come a long way since entering Maryland, he's got to get in better cardio shape. He runs out of gas too quickly.

Cammo101 · Post #12 » by **Cammo101** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 4:03 pm

Alec Burks or the best PF on the board.

Post #13 » by **BigSlam** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 4:27 pm

Cammo101 wrote:Alec Burks or the best PF on the board.

That's ridiculous.

Henderson has been playing very, very well and the Bobcats have already invested heavily in Tyrus Thomas and he has started to repay them by showing great things.

If by SF or PF you meant SF or C then you might be onto something................but you didn't so you are not.

Cammo101 · Post #14 » by **Cammo101** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 5:16 pm

BigSlam wrote:
Cammo101 wrote:Alec Burks or the best PF on the board.

That's ridiculous.

Henderson has been playing very, very well and the Bobcats have already invested heavily in Tyrus Thomas and he has started to repay them by showing great things.

If by SF or PF you meant SF or C then you might be onto something................but you didn't so you are not.

Nothing says title on the horizon like Gerald Henderson and Tyrus Thomas in your starting lineup. :roll:

Center would be nice too, but it is not likely there will be a center where Charlotte is picking. Burks would be a clear upgrade over what Charlote has on the wing and Jackson would have no problem sliding the SF. Charlotte needs scoring and Burks can definately help with that. Any big man who can play would be a welcome addition in Charlotte as well.

Post #15 » by **BigSlam** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 6:31 pm

Proving once again how little you actually know about the Bobcats.

Jackson is already playing the SF - his more natural position - since the Wallace trade.

Cammo101 · Post #16 » by **Cammo101** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 6:34 pm

BigSlam wrote:Proving once again how little you actually know about the Bobcats.

Jackson is already playing the SF - his more natural position - since the Wallace trade.

It is shocking some of the marginal players people reference when talking about how their team will not draft a certain position. Gerald Henderson and Tyrus Thomas will not stop Charlotte from taking a wing or a PF. Even Charlotte's front office has to have that much figured out.

To hear people on this board talk, Minnesota and Charlotte do not even need their pick, because they are set at every position.

travisjordan · Post #17 » by **travisjordan** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 10:34 pm

As big a fan as I am of Michael Jordan, there's always a difference between who the Bobcats should draft and who they will draft. Alexis Ajinca, Adam Morrison, and Gerald Henderson are good examples there. I'd take the BPA and do a little spring cleaning in the offseason.

doc.end · Post #18 » by **doc.end** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 3:04 pm

Except Gerald Henderson has proven to be a good pick.

#1 pick · Post #19 » by **#1 pick** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 4:30 pm

Perry Jones if available. They need to go most talent/potential available. They need to get a potential star. I would look at Enes Kanter as well. PG/SG/SF are good positions for them but they need someone with superstar potential. Not saying Jones has that but he can be a much better NBA player than college player. He seems to be much more talented and has higher BBIQ than Anthony Randolph but his motivation is on the same level with a young T-Mac. He can go so many ways. High like a T-Mac or low like a Tim Thomas. Much more talented than Randolph. He's a top 5 pick but one you might not get your full value out of.

Dr Positivity · Post #20 » by **Dr Positivity** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 9:29 pm

#1 pick wrote:Perry Jones if available. They need to go most talent/potential available. They need to get a potential star. I would look at Enes Kanter as well. PG/SG/SF are good positions for them but they need someone with superstar potential. Not saying Jones has that but he can be a much better NBA player than college player. He seems to be much more talented and has higher BBIQ than Anthony Randolph but his motivation is on the same level with a young T-Mac. He can go so many ways. High like a T-Mac or low like a Tim Thomas. Much more talented than Randolph. He's a top 5 pick but one you might not get your full value out of.

Perry is one of the most confusing prospects I've ever seen. I can buy arguments for him at #1 and arguments at #10 just because I don't know which way he'll go.

On one hand I think he's by far the most talented player in this draft. I think he has Wall and Rose talent. A 6'11 guy that athletic with his perimeter skills has terrifying mismatch potential. And I've heard pros reports about how he should still fill out physically to classic PF size

But I can't ignore that what makes prospects succesful is what they have upstairs. Guys like Rose, Durant and Griffin are franchise players because they carry themselves like one. They want to win more than anyone, they have an osmosis effect on their teammates, they see the game the right way. The history of the league suggests a guy with Harrison Barnes' mental aptitude is what you want, not PJIII.

With that said. It's not like Jones is a bad kid. It's not like he doesn't have a work ethic. It's not like his basketball IQ is overly dumb. Most of the reports I've heard is that he's the nicest and most high character kid on the team. It's just he has zero confidence. The thing is, the world is full of 18 year olds who are confidence turtles and are afraid of the world. I was one. By the time I was 20 I did a full 180. And I'm sure a lot of people would say they made a similar turnaround. But there's a difference between turning it around after you go to college and get out in the world and turning it around with the pressure of the NBA, as a top 5 pick when everyone is ready to criticize you as a bust. In the right place he could turn it around and become this draft's right superstar. In the wrong place it'd be all over. I think a place like Utah or Milwaukee would be terrific for him. In Sacramento or Washington or Minnesota it's all over. I'd also say avoid Indiana or Charlotte cause you don't want him hanging out with Roy Hibbert or MJ, lol