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Re: 2013 Sleepers 

Post#76 » by UGA Hayes » Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:58 pm

Has anyone seen Alex Len play for Maryland? I didn't but his numbers albeit in limited games (22) were pretty good his freshman year.

Will Yeguette out of Florida is interesting prospect and I like Olidipu, too.
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Re: 2013 Sleepers 

Post#77 » by ManualRam » Thu Aug 23, 2012 11:29 pm

here's my take on take on len, but i only saw like 3 terp games since they were an awful team to watch.
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i didnt see a whole lot of len last yr, but what i saw didnt impress. he's light, soft, didnt know how to defend without fouling, couldnt establish position in the post and when he did he was a prime candidate to get stripped as he's weak with the ball. he supposedly has some soft touch and decent footwork in the paint, but i didnt get to see much since he was in foul trouble and didnt get enough touches from the terps' selfish perimeter players. he'll have to make some serious strides this yr to be taken in the first IMO, unless some team just drafts him as a raw shot-blocker.
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Re: 2013 Sleepers 

Post#78 » by mattg » Thu Aug 23, 2012 11:53 pm

UGA Hayes wrote:Has anyone seen Alex Len play for Maryland? I didn't but his numbers albeit in limited games (22) were pretty good his freshman year.

Will Yeguette out of Florida is interesting prospect and I like Olidipu, too.

Len isn't an NBA player at this stage in his development. He's got some tools but he'd need to make massive improvements in every aspect of his game to be drafted. He still needs a few years.
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Re: 2013 Sleepers 

Post#79 » by ManualRam » Tue Aug 28, 2012 8:15 pm

jman3134 wrote:Same MR. Xavier will probably be a middle of the pack team in the A10 imo because of this. I think many of these sexual incidents at universities get thrown out all the time though. Word is that he appeared before a student council and his appeal was thrown out. He was also well liked at Xavier. So, I'm guessing the evidence must have been pretty incriminating. But, I would reserve judgment until more information comes out on the matter.


here's more info.
the county prosecutor won't even pursue a case.
sounds like dez got a raw deal.
http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basket ... no-charges
In an interview with WLW-AM radio, Deters called the use of a University Conduct Board to determine whether Wells had committed an offense worthy of expulsion “fundamentally unfair” and “seriously flawed.” Deters said this matter “should never have gotten to the point where someone’s reputation is ruined.”

Deters said he took the allegation seriously and assigned two assistant prosecutors “who are highly skilled at assessing these kinds of cases.”

A source close to Wells told Sporting News he testified before the Hamilton County Grand Jury on Monday.

On Tuesday morning, the Grand Jury declined to prosecute. Deters said, based on what was presented, “It wasn’t even close. ... We would never take anything like this to court. It just wouldn’t happen.”
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Post#80 » by sisibilio » Tue Sep 11, 2012 6:42 am

Nikola Ivanovic might be an interesting pick with a mid-late second round assuming he declares eligible.
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Post#81 » by jowglenn » Tue Sep 11, 2012 12:28 pm

Christian Watford is getting completely ignored. Late 2nd round or completely undrafted in some mocks I've seen.

The guy has good NBA size, great scoring abilities, good shooter. He's like, robert horry 2.0 ffs.
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Post#82 » by Indy2thaWindy » Wed Sep 12, 2012 7:31 am

Watford rarely ever shows up on D. Too skinny to defend 4's and 3's and not quick enough too guard 2's or 1's. His spot up shooting and shooting off the dribble will get him drafted most likely, but he's pretty awful most nights on D. Some nights he looks decent, but Zeller has to cover for him a lot.
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Post#83 » by TheGoodDoctor » Tue Sep 18, 2012 3:27 am

I'm not sure he qualifies as a sleeper per say but I feel like Kyle Anderson is being so badly overlooked by most draft boards. I don't see why he's not projected top 10 especially in a crappy draft like the one next year. This kid has "ol' man" game.
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Post#84 » by crgreen » Wed Sep 19, 2012 12:39 am

ManualRam wrote:
TayP wrote:Who are the best pure shooters in this draft?


depends who declares, but there arent many.

alex abrines (int'l)
cj wilcox (jr)
allen crabbe (jr)
sean kilpatrick (jr). imo, he's more streaky than pure.
dre hollins (soph)

not sure i would call caldwell-pope a pure shooter. pure shooters usually have pretty good shot selection. his is terrible.


Pure shooter, true sleeper - If Shabazz's problems cost him his whole frosh year, then Jordan Adams of the Bruins likely gets those minutes and a chance to shine. He's going to be a MAJOR player - just depends on if he plays behind 'Bazz this year and shines next season, or has the spotlight (and is on the receiving end of Kyle Anderson's passes) this year.
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Post#85 » by sisibilio » Thu Oct 4, 2012 12:47 am

I wouldn't call Abrines a pure shooter and i doubt he'll declare next season.
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Re: 2013 Sleepers 

Post#86 » by joseph mamah » Tue Oct 30, 2012 10:21 pm

anyone know why Brandon Ashley isnt getting much love? he looks like a potential lottery talent to me, but I dont see his name mentioned in any mocks.
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Post#87 » by ManualRam » Tue Oct 30, 2012 11:13 pm

joseph mamah wrote:anyone know why Brandon Ashley isnt getting much love? he looks like a potential lottery talent to me, but I dont see his name mentioned in any mocks.

he's an undersized PF or a tweener who's game has stagnated over the past yr. plus he'll be playing in a frontcourt with good depth so he won't be able to put up gaudy numbers. out of the 3 bigs in 'zona's class, he's probably the 3rd best.
i think he's a 3 yr player. after those 3 yrs im not sure what he'll be. seems like he's got his mind set on being a SF, but i haven't seen anything from his game to suggest that he'll be able to transition to the position.
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Re: 2013 Sleepers 

Post#88 » by Upperclass » Wed Oct 31, 2012 4:44 pm

JT Terrell @ USC. Reminds me of a smaller JR Smith, with slightly better IQ. If he performs well statistically, he has to be late lotto. Much better prospect than a guy like Waiters imo.
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Re: 2013 Sleepers 

Post#89 » by ManualRam » Thu Nov 8, 2012 6:59 am

it's just the exhibition season but montrezl harrell has arguably been the best player for the louisville cardinals. kid is a beast with a non-stop motor. reminds me of k.faried. he's slightly undersized height-wise for the PF position but he's got a monster wingspan. he'll likely be the 3rd big for the cards but he should get plenty of minutes to be productive.
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Re: 2013 Sleepers 

Post#90 » by SkyMason21 » Thu Nov 8, 2012 5:25 pm

ManualRam wrote:it's just the exhibition season but montrezl harrell has arguably been the best player for the louisville cardinals. kid is a beast with a non-stop motor. reminds me of k.faried. he's slightly undersized height-wise for the PF position but he's got a monster wingspan. he'll likely be the 3rd big for the cards but he should get plenty of minutes to be productive.


Trez is actually the starting PF for the moment. Pitino's been saying he will be starting for the louisville's first game this Sunday. Chane Behanan is in the doghouse but Harrell might be able to keep the job as starting PF.
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Re: 2013 Sleepers 

Post#91 » by ManualRam » Thu Nov 8, 2012 7:02 pm

SkyMason21 wrote:
ManualRam wrote:it's just the exhibition season but montrezl harrell has arguably been the best player for the louisville cardinals. kid is a beast with a non-stop motor. reminds me of k.faried. he's slightly undersized height-wise for the PF position but he's got a monster wingspan. he'll likely be the 3rd big for the cards but he should get plenty of minutes to be productive.


Trez is actually the starting PF for the moment. Pitino's been saying he will be starting for the louisville's first game this Sunday. Chane Behanan is in the doghouse but Harrell might be able to keep the job as starting PF.


what did behanan do? has he just been outplayed by harrell?
behanan's a nice player in his own right
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Re: 2013 Sleepers 

Post#92 » by Ruzious » Thu Nov 8, 2012 8:49 pm

On the first post in this thread, Dez Wells was mentioned - with a very good description. Yesterday, the NCAA reversed their previous ruling and granted him immediate eligibility. In just 2 days, he makes his debut with Maryland against Kentucky, and Maryland is likely going to be pumped out of their minds trying to show that they are back - under Coach Turgeon - plus they want to show the Harrison twins what they're going to miss (It was between KY and MD for them.). And it'll be a fun game to check out how good KY's freshman are.
Edit - actually, the game is tonight - 8:30 Eastern time.
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Re: 2013 Sleepers 

Post#93 » by SkyMason21 » Thu Nov 8, 2012 11:34 pm

ManualRam wrote:
SkyMason21 wrote:
ManualRam wrote:it's just the exhibition season but montrezl harrell has arguably been the best player for the louisville cardinals. kid is a beast with a non-stop motor. reminds me of k.faried. he's slightly undersized height-wise for the PF position but he's got a monster wingspan. he'll likely be the 3rd big for the cards but he should get plenty of minutes to be productive.


Trez is actually the starting PF for the moment. Pitino's been saying he will be starting for the louisville's first game this Sunday. Chane Behanan is in the doghouse but Harrell might be able to keep the job as starting PF.


what did behanan do? has he just been outplayed by harrell?
behanan's a nice player in his own right


Pitino said Behanan didn't put in the amount of effort he expected in the offseason, and Trez outplayed him and won the starting spot.

Behanan also has been having some off the court issues that got him suspended for an exhibition game and is currently banned temporarily from talking to the media. But from what I've heard its nothing big.
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Re: 2013 Sleepers 

Post#94 » by Expeditious » Sat Nov 10, 2012 12:26 am

I'm a Kentucky homer, but I think Willie Cauley-Stein will surprise a lot of people this year. I wasn't expecting much from him this year, since he was ranked in the 30s by the recruiting guys and didn't put up big stats in high school (12 ppt, 4 rpg), but he has been impressive in the two exhibitions I've watched in person. He's a very athletic 7-footer (noticeably 1-2" taller than Noel) who plays hard, gets a lot of deflections, and runs the floor like a deer. He is still very raw offensively, but it seems like he has good instincts. He played a bunch of sports in high school and now that he is focusing solely on basketball, I think he is going to develop quickly. I expected him to be at Kentucky for 2-3 years at least, but now I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up a late first rounder in the 2013 draft. If he sticks around for his sophomore year, I think he'll be a borderline lottery pick after starting for what is looking like a loaded Kentucky squad.

I've been a little underwhelmed by Alex Poythress. He looks the part of a pro physically, but he isn't as active and aggressive as I'd like. I'm hoping he is just going through an adjustment period as he transitions to the college game, but so far the projections as a top 5 pick look overly optimistic.
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Re: 2013 Sleepers 

Post#95 » by Fischella » Sat Nov 10, 2012 6:24 pm

Cauley-Stein and Whitey will earn their money in the NBA, 8-10m$ easily

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