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Re: Selby, Beal or Waiters
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 1:56 am
by ManualRam
Keshavarzi wrote:Selby? Really?? If were going off SL and charity games sure, I see where you're coming from. But he has done NOTHING significant in games that actually matter. Did nothing in College and has yet to do anything in the NBA. I just don't think he deserves to be mentioned with Beal or even Waiters at this point.
yeah, selby. i dont see anything wrong with including him in this comparison. dont act like he has no talent. he wasnt rated the #1 player in his class by some services for no reason. did he underachieve in college? yes, but he also had to start his season late because of suspension on a top team that hit the ground running and also happened to be deep in the backcourt. he actually played pretty well for a stretch until he got injured and then he played the rest of the year with the injury.
he happens to be the most physically gifted in terms of athleticism and he has the most complete offensive game of the 3. all 3 are in a position to get minutes, including selby, who is expected to take the minutes that mayo left behind.
Re: Selby, Beal or Waiters
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 2:29 am
by King d
Beal
Selby
Waiters
Re: Selby, Beal or Waiters
Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 4:14 am
by TheGoodDoctor
Beal...easily.
I'll only take Selby over Dion because Waiters has looked awful and like he has a bad attitude but wouldn't surprise me if over his career he matures and becomes better than Selby as well.
Re: Selby, Beal or Waiters
Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 5:21 am
by Super Selby
Selby is a better shooter than Beal, a better athlete and has much better one on one ability. The only reason would be length but Beal is mediocre at that too with a blah wingspan
Re: Selby, Beal or Waiters
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 4:21 am
by King d
Super Selby wrote:Selby is a better shooter than Beal, a better athlete and has much better one on one ability. The only reason would be length but Beal is mediocre at that too with a blah wingspan
What about defense ?
Re: Selby, Beal or Waiters
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 4:51 am
by Super Selby
both are below average at this moment
Re: Selby, Beal or Waiters
Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 4:07 pm
by King d
Super Selby wrote:both are below average at this moment
Re: Selby, Beal or Waiters
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 7:14 am
by LeBosh Wade
Super Selby wrote:1. Selby is the best out of the three in creating his own shot with his one on one ability. He's the best athlete, the best at getting to the rim and has the best jumpshot by far.
2. Beal
3. Waiters
stay out of this thread if you don't want your feelings hurt
beal's jumper destroys selbys and waiters is the better athlete and better at getting to the rim
Re: Selby, Beal or Waiters
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:25 pm
by ManualRam
LeBosh Wade wrote:Super Selby wrote:1. Selby is the best out of the three in creating his own shot with his one on one ability. He's the best athlete, the best at getting to the rim and has the best jumpshot by far.
2. Beal
3. Waiters
stay out of this thread if you don't want your feelings hurt
beal's jumper destroys selbys and waiters is the better athlete and better at getting to the rim
You are wrong on all accounts.
selby's jumper is better than the other 2. Selby is the best athlete out of the bunch and has the quickest first step.
Re: Selby, Beal or Waiters
Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 11:17 am
by King d
ManualRam wrote:LeBosh Wade wrote:Super Selby wrote:1. Selby is the best out of the three in creating his own shot with his one on one ability. He's the best athlete, the best at getting to the rim and has the best jumpshot by far.
2. Beal
3. Waiters
stay out of this thread if you don't want your feelings hurt
beal's jumper destroys selbys and waiters is the better athlete and better at getting to the rim
You are wrong on all accounts.
selby's jumper is better than the other 2. Selby is the best athlete out of the bunch and has the quickest first step.
Beal is a better athlete than Selby. Just look at Beal's body... Way stronger, as quick as him running the open floor, pretty good vertical...
You are the one who is wrong here
Re: Selby, Beal or Waiters
Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 3:40 pm
by ManualRam
King d wrote:ManualRam wrote:LeBosh Wade wrote: stay out of this thread if you don't want your feelings hurt
beal's jumper destroys selbys and waiters is the better athlete and better at getting to the rim
You are wrong on all accounts.
selby's jumper is better than the other 2. Selby is the best athlete out of the bunch and has the quickest first step.
Beal is a better athlete than Selby. Just look at Beal's body... Way stronger, as quick as him running the open floor, pretty good vertical...
You are the one who is wrong here
uh, no. just look at the way they move on the court. selby is quicker and more explosive with or without the ball.
Re: Selby, Beal or Waiters
Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 10:32 pm
by King d
Diasagree, Selby is quicker with the ball because of his handles, but they are about the same speed without the ball, and the proof is their 3/4 sprint time from the combine. And like I said speed/quickness isn't the only thing in the athletic department
Re: Selby, Beal or Waiters
Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 10:53 pm
by SmooveCam
Selby is truely a hybrid of Monta and Eric Gordon..
Re: Selby, Beal or Waiters
Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 11:06 pm
by ManualRam
King d wrote:Diasagree, Selby is quicker with the ball because of his handles, but they are about the same speed without the ball, and the proof is their 3/4 sprint time from the combine. And like I said speed/quickness isn't the only thing in the athletic department
yeah, his speed with the ball, running the wing in the open floor, his explosiveness in terms of first step, exploding off the floor, his body control and ability to change direction, etc.
i don't think it's even debatable. selby is a tremendous athlete. beal is average to slightly below average.
combine results are hardly "proof".
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36td_ejDRJ8[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEEGg_qIFvY&feature=relmfu[/youtube]
Re: Selby, Beal or Waiters
Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 2:12 am
by Charsace
Some of you guys have to be joking. Beal is an average athlete for a guard. Selby is near elite. I'm not calling him elite yet because I have to see more of him in league play before saying he is. Injury and coaching is what killed his draft stock. Looking at Selby's skills you its not a stretch to say that he's in the same class talent wise as Beal. What keeps him back is the shooting and bbiq. As a ballhandler, slasher and creating space he's better than Beal.
Re: Selby, Beal or Waiters
Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 5:54 am
by SmooveCam
Charsace have you been paying attention? Selbys jumper is on another level. I would even say that his jumper is closer to being elite than his athletic ability.
Not to mention he and Eric Gordon are the same height.
Re: Selby, Beal or Waiters
Posted: Sat Oct 6, 2012 9:48 pm
by RebelWithACause
1. Selby
2. Beal
3. Waiters
Re: Selby, Beal or Waiters
Posted: Mon Oct 8, 2012 4:56 pm
by Ruzious
Keshavarzi wrote:Selby? Really?? If were going off SL and charity games sure, I see where you're coming from. But he has done NOTHING significant in games that actually matter. Did nothing in College and has yet to do anything in the NBA. I just don't think he deserves to be mentioned with Beal or even Waiters at this point.
Yup, there are always going to be people who will never get that SL games mean virtually nothing.
Re: Selby, Beal or Waiters
Posted: Mon Oct 8, 2012 8:55 pm
by RebelWithACause
Ruzious wrote:Keshavarzi wrote:Selby? Really?? If were going off SL and charity games sure, I see where you're coming from. But he has done NOTHING significant in games that actually matter. Did nothing in College and has yet to do anything in the NBA. I just don't think he deserves to be mentioned with Beal or even Waiters at this point.
Yup, there are always going to be people who will never get that SL games mean virtually nothing.
Then College disqualifies as well!
Why? Because its just as different from a Nba game as a SL game ...
Re: Selby, Beal or Waiters
Posted: Mon Oct 8, 2012 9:21 pm
by Kabookalu
ElMaestro90 wrote:Then College disqualifies as well!
Why? Because its just as different from a Nba game as a SL game ...
Not exactly. College ball is a lot more organized where the team has a unified goal to win whereas SL is a place where scrubs are out to accomplish their own agendas.