Sell me on Noel

Draft talk all year round

Moderators: jman3134, Marcus, Ruzious

MagicFan32
RealGM
Posts: 14,309
And1: 404
Joined: Jun 13, 2004

Sell me on Noel 

Post#1 » by MagicFan32 » Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:43 pm

I feel like when a guy is an elite prospect he should just jump out at you, with Noel, I think defensively he could be phenomenal, but he has little developed talent with the ball, and on the block. Could he be the next Ben Wallace? or another Thabeet?
aol4532 on bill russell
I think if you put McGee back then, he would get those blocks just as easily as Russell did. Russell's athleticism was well ahead of the players of his time, and that's about it.
User avatar
Dr Positivity
RealGM
Posts: 31,595
And1: 1,323
Joined: Apr 29, 2009
       

Re: Sell me on Noel 

Post#2 » by Dr Positivity » Fri Nov 16, 2012 11:26 pm

He looks somewhere between Anthony Randolph and John Henson to me. Only reason Ford hasn't dropped him from #1 yet is so his pre season hype of him doesn't look stupid
Fischella
Head Coach
Posts: 6,825
And1: 745
Joined: Feb 11, 2012
         

Re: Sell me on Noel 

Post#3 » by Fischella » Fri Nov 16, 2012 11:33 pm

He isn't a top5 prospect in a strong draft, he could be one next year, guy could be similar to Theo Ratliff
User avatar
ManualRam
RealGM
Posts: 23,361
And1: 2,719
Joined: Jun 25, 2004
     

Re: Sell me on Noel 

Post#4 » by ManualRam » Sat Nov 17, 2012 1:49 am

he has little skill and virtually no feel for the game but he does have rockets for feet and really good lateral quickness. i think he has more in common with tyrus thomas than anthony davis.
idontgiveashtaboutmelo
User avatar
TheGoodDoctor
Head Coach
Posts: 6,476
And1: 4,907
Joined: Jul 23, 2012
Location: Jurassic Park
 

Re: Sell me on Noel 

Post#5 » by TheGoodDoctor » Sat Nov 17, 2012 2:34 am

He has a sick high top fade?!?
#MLSEHIRETZ ------ HOLD UP, HOLD UP-------#WETHENORTH.
Image
TheMailMan3232
Junior
Posts: 288
And1: 7
Joined: Dec 27, 2011

Re: Sell me on Noel 

Post#6 » by TheMailMan3232 » Sat Nov 17, 2012 6:30 am

Fischella wrote:He isn't a top5 prospect in a strong draft, he could be one next year, guy could be similar to Theo Ratliff


He a top 5 pick right now.
Image
User avatar
DirtyDez
RealGM
Posts: 11,875
And1: 909
Joined: Jun 25, 2009
Location: the Arizona desert

Re: Sell me on Noel 

Post#7 » by DirtyDez » Sat Nov 17, 2012 7:41 am

He better fix that shot or teams will keep fouling him. If developed properly he can be Serge Ibaka-ish... Hopefully he stays another year in college. He gets visibly frustrated on offense so he knows he'll get destroyed in the NBA.
jman3134
Forum Mod
Forum Mod
Posts: 17,999
And1: 182
Joined: Apr 17, 2005
Location: Follow me on Twitter: JTMBasketball
Contact:
 

Re: Sell me on Noel 

Post#8 » by jman3134 » Sat Nov 17, 2012 4:43 pm

I never understood the hype, even when he was in high school. People compared him to Davis and I don't think they're in the same universe defensively. Offensively, he simply uses his athleticism to faceup guys from what I've seen and drive past them or draw contact. It's not going to work in the league.

Defensively, he gambles a lot to block shots. This is why they're going to allow a lot of offensive rebounds this year.
User avatar
phx#7
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,160
And1: 153
Joined: Jun 28, 2002
Location: Colbert Nation

Re: Sell me on Noel 

Post#9 » by phx#7 » Sat Nov 17, 2012 8:53 pm

jman3134 wrote:I never understood the hype, even when he was in high school. People compared him to Davis and I don't think they're in the same universe defensively. Offensively, he simply uses his athleticism to faceup guys from what I've seen and drive past them or draw contact. It's not going to work in the league.

Defensively, he gambles a lot to block shots. This is why they're going to allow a lot of offensive rebounds this year.


This is exactly my take. I really don't understand how he was the #1 recruit in this class. And defensively even when he doesn't gamble he gives up positioning to any decent post player I've seen him match up with.
User avatar
boogie-reke
Head Coach
Posts: 6,913
And1: 234
Joined: Nov 05, 2010
   

Re: Sell me on Noel 

Post#10 » by boogie-reke » Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:19 pm

I've never been overly impressed in the games I got to see him and expressed it in my posts.

Ibaka looks a decent comparison down the line if he can develop offensively in terms of rhe realistic best case scenario.
“Its my 2nd year of losing and Im not trying to get used to this.I didnt want to get use to it last year.I had enough of it. Its time to turn it around”
-DeMarcus Cousins

“Rookie or not- Im not letting anybody relax"
-Thomas Robinson
black bart
Rookie
Posts: 1,245
And1: 40
Joined: Mar 08, 2011

Re: Sell me on Noel 

Post#11 » by black bart » Sat Nov 17, 2012 11:37 pm

Watching him, he has huge problems defensively and is not a good team defender. He is extremely quick, extremely long, and has a high vert. Actually more of a freak than Anthony davis as an athlete. He is able to post up and get past his defender easily because of his quick feet. He does have however the lowest bball iq I've seen in a while. He always tries to block the ball and never boxes out his opponent for rebounds. He is one of the worst rebounders for a tall guy because of this. He deserves top 5 similar to drummond. I was down on him but his athletic ability is too good to pass on him. Most overrated recruit though. He is a one and done and is going to lose more games than win his first season. He shouldn't have been ahead of shabazz
GreenRiddler
Head Coach
Posts: 6,135
And1: 553
Joined: May 19, 2012
Location: Blazer fan from Toronto
     

Re: Sell me on Noel 

Post#12 » by GreenRiddler » Tue Nov 20, 2012 5:02 am

boogie-reke wrote:I've never been overly impressed in the games I got to see him and expressed it in my posts.

Ibaka looks a decent comparison down the line if he can develop offensively in terms of rhe realistic best case scenario.

I doubt that's his ceiling he is already pretty close to him. I think he is gonna be a more active player on O and he also has better hands.
User avatar
ManualRam
RealGM
Posts: 23,361
And1: 2,719
Joined: Jun 25, 2004
     

Re: Sell me on Noel 

Post#13 » by ManualRam » Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:07 am

i think noel has quicker feet than ibaka. noel has more potential than ibaka as a man defender because of those quicker feet. noel can actually put the ball on the deck and is faster in straight lines.
idontgiveashtaboutmelo

Return to NBA Draft