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Re: Has Wiggins been compared to Cory Brewer? 

Post#101 » by brackdan70 » Sat Mar 1, 2014 3:17 pm

Brewer averaged 7.5 points a game as a freshman. was 6-8 185. 24 minutes a game on a team that played 1 ranked team (3 times)

Wiggins is the same height but 200 pounds, is bigger, stronger, faster, and much better. 16 ppg, on a team that has played 10 ranked teams. Maybe they can be compared to some extent on the defensive end, but you could probably randomly pick any NBA wing and make a better comparison.
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Re: Has Wiggins been compared to Cory Brewer? 

Post#102 » by MiltownHawkeye » Sat Mar 1, 2014 4:40 pm

brackdan70 wrote:Brewer averaged 7.5 points a game as a freshman. was 6-8 185. 24 minutes a game on a team that played 1 ranked team (3 times)

Wiggins is the same height but 200 pounds, is bigger, stronger, faster, and much better. 16 ppg, on a team that has played 10 ranked teams. Maybe they can be compared to some extent on the defensive end, but you could probably randomly pick any NBA wing and make a better comparison.

-b-b-but DRtg and wiggins hasn't shown literally a single basketball skill and he's reached his ceiling and he sucks and you're a stan
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Re: Has Wiggins been compared to Cory Brewer? 

Post#103 » by brackdan70 » Sat Mar 1, 2014 7:40 pm

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brackdan70 wrote:Brewer averaged 7.5 points a game as a freshman. was 6-8 185. 24 minutes a game on a team that played 1 ranked team (3 times)

Wiggins is the same height but 200 pounds, is bigger, stronger, faster, and much better. 16 ppg, on a team that has played 10 ranked teams. Maybe they can be compared to some extent on the defensive end, but you could probably randomly pick any NBA wing and make a better comparison.

-b-b-but DRtg and wiggins hasn't shown literally a single basketball skill and he's reached his ceiling and he sucks and you're a stan


My bad, you are correct, he has clearly reached his ceiling because he just turned 19. no way he gets any better. yes clearly no basketball skill at all :lol: :roll: shooting 40% from three in big 12 play so he clearly can't shoot. Only gets to the line 6 times a game. yeah, clearly no basketball skill at all. good post.

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Re: Has Wiggins been compared to Cory Brewer? 

Post#104 » by brackdan70 » Sat Mar 1, 2014 7:47 pm

Goldbum wrote:Wiggins reminds me of MKG. He's probably going to be a better pro do to a superior feel for the game and slightly more agility, but I see a lot of MKG in his game.


what?, have you ever watched either player?
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Re: Has Wiggins been compared to Cory Brewer? 

Post#105 » by MiltownHawkeye » Sat Mar 1, 2014 8:37 pm

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brackdan70 wrote:Brewer averaged 7.5 points a game as a freshman. was 6-8 185. 24 minutes a game on a team that played 1 ranked team (3 times)

Wiggins is the same height but 200 pounds, is bigger, stronger, faster, and much better. 16 ppg, on a team that has played 10 ranked teams. Maybe they can be compared to some extent on the defensive end, but you could probably randomly pick any NBA wing and make a better comparison.

-b-b-but DRtg and wiggins hasn't shown literally a single basketball skill and he's reached his ceiling and he sucks and you're a stan


My bad, you are correct, he has clearly reached his ceiling because he just turned 19. no way he gets any better. yes clearly no basketball skill at all :lol: :roll: shooting 40% from three in big 12 play so he clearly can't shoot. Only gets to the line 6 times a game. yeah, clearly no basketball skill at all. good post.

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Re: Has Wiggins been compared to Cory Brewer? 

Post#106 » by brackdan70 » Sat Mar 1, 2014 8:43 pm

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brackdan70 wrote:
MiltownHawkeye wrote:-b-b-but DRtg and wiggins hasn't shown literally a single basketball skill and he's reached his ceiling and he sucks and you're a stan


My bad, you are correct, he has clearly reached his ceiling because he just turned 19. no way he gets any better. yes clearly no basketball skill at all :lol: :roll: shooting 40% from three in big 12 play so he clearly can't shoot. Only gets to the line 6 times a game. yeah, clearly no basketball skill at all. good post.

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Re: Has Wiggins been compared to Cory Brewer? 

Post#107 » by Dr Positivity » Sat Mar 1, 2014 10:53 pm

brackdan70 wrote:Brewer averaged 7.5 points a game as a freshman. was 6-8 185. 24 minutes a game on a team that played 1 ranked team (3 times)

Wiggins is the same height but 200 pounds, is bigger, stronger, faster, and much better. 16 ppg, on a team that has played 10 ranked teams. Maybe they can be compared to some extent on the defensive end, but you could probably randomly pick any NBA wing and make a better comparison.


Nah, Wiggins has similarities in style of play, ballhandling being a weakness, etc. He's a rich man's Brewer, the question is how much more rich?

The best Wiggins comparison to me is Richard Jefferson
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Re: Has Wiggins been compared to Cory Brewer? 

Post#108 » by Big_C_KU » Sat Mar 1, 2014 11:05 pm

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brackdan70 wrote:Brewer averaged 7.5 points a game as a freshman. was 6-8 185. 24 minutes a game on a team that played 1 ranked team (3 times)

Wiggins is the same height but 200 pounds, is bigger, stronger, faster, and much better. 16 ppg, on a team that has played 10 ranked teams. Maybe they can be compared to some extent on the defensive end, but you could probably randomly pick any NBA wing and make a better comparison.


Nah, Wiggins has similarities in style of play, ballhandling being a weakness, etc. He's a rich man's Brewer, the question is how much more rich?

The best Wiggins comparison to me is Richard Jefferson


My comparison in college is DeMar DeRozan. Both skinny wings. Both solid but nothing spectacular in the handles department. DeRozan was a better finisher at this stage but was definitely behind Wiggins in perimeter shooting. DeRozan was also super athletic but appeared at times to not use it like he was capable of in-game. Wiggins is a considerably better defender though at this stage. I think Wiggins can be at worst a very good starting wing in the NBA like DeRozan.

The problem with Wiggins is he's solid to good at just about everything but not great at anything at this stage. The only thing he's below average is finishing around the rim and that's something you definitely wish was more impressive but not irregular for freshman. Wiggins will become better with finishing as he becomes stronger and learns to use his athleticism better in-game. The question is how much will his skill level improve and how much better will he become at using his athleticism in-game? That remains to be seen.
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Re: Has Wiggins been compared to Cory Brewer? 

Post#109 » by Dr Positivity » Sat Mar 1, 2014 11:24 pm

As a Raptors fan to me Derozan actually gets miscategorized as a player. He has an average amount of athleticism in his game at best for a 2 guard. He's all below the rim craftiness like a poor man's Pierce or Joe Johnson - not much first step, lateral quickness and no highlight reel dunks whatsoever. He's an all-star because he's the best at his position at two things this year, midrange jumpshooting and drawing fouls. The fouls (7.4 a game, .4 FTA per FGA) in particular is amazing because like 19% of his shots are in the restricted area which is a number around the range of jumpshooters like Afflalo and Kmart. Basically he has the lack of driving skills that should lead be leading to 3 or 4 FTA a game, but is somehow drawing them at twice that rate. OTOH, this also may something unsustainable after this season. I think there's a legitimate danger that after the league spends a summer trying to solve him, he goes back to 5 FTA, his midrange shot is a little less hot and all over a sudden he's 17-19ppg .51 TS. What I am hoping however is even if this regression happens, he figures out how to be a 35%+ 3 point shooter at the same time and manages to sustain this production, but through different means
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Re: Has Wiggins been compared to Cory Brewer? 

Post#110 » by MrBigShot » Sun Mar 2, 2014 3:51 am

They are similar stylistically in the sense that neither of them are great shooters, or great ball handlers. Wiggins is already much farther along offensively though. Wiggins worst case scenario is still better than Corey Brewer...
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Re: Has Wiggins been compared to Cory Brewer? 

Post#111 » by bigboi » Sun Mar 2, 2014 3:54 am

Wiggins needs to finish. Two instances where he tried dunking on a player and missed
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Re: Has Wiggins been compared to Cory Brewer? 

Post#112 » by noobcake » Sun Mar 2, 2014 3:58 am

I've never been more convinced that Wiggins is a second rate prospect compared to Parker and Embiid.

He has made 0 driving layups/dunks, 1 jumper tonight.

3 put packs, 1 on his own miss and a 3 pointer. 3 turnovers passing the ball, got picked 2 times for 5 turnovers.

Still 5:50 to go. Embiid looks truly dominant on both ends.
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Re: Has Wiggins been compared to Cory Brewer? 

Post#113 » by reanimator » Sun Mar 2, 2014 4:11 am

Wiggins is a pogo stick but just needs to add strength. All these misses around the basket will be makes after a summer of S&C. Definitely 2nd best prospect after Emblid.
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Post#114 » by MrBigShot » Sun Mar 2, 2014 4:11 am

I thought Wiggins would be an elite finisher at the college level. Is it just a lack of strength? Underwhelming 1st step? Can't really put my finger on why he struggles at the rim.
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Re: Has Wiggins been compared to Cory Brewer? 

Post#115 » by rockmanslim » Sun Mar 2, 2014 4:14 am

MrBigShot wrote:I thought Wiggins would be an elite finisher at the college level. Is it just a lack of strength? Underwhelming 1st step? Can't really put my finger on why he struggles at the rim.


imo it's poor dexterity and body coordination, which is also reflected in his weak ball handling.
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Re: Has Wiggins been compared to Cory Brewer? 

Post#116 » by noobcake » Sun Mar 2, 2014 4:14 am

MrBigShot wrote:I thought Wiggins would be an elite finisher at the college level. Is it just a lack of strength? Underwhelming 1st step? Can't really put my finger on why he struggles at the rim.


His first step is elite. Lightning quick. Contact, can't finish. No contact, still can't finish. There is something called skill in basketball, and yes basketball is a game of skill. You can't get the best athletes and all of a sudden win games.
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Re: Has Wiggins been compared to Cory Brewer? 

Post#117 » by sikma42 » Sun Mar 2, 2014 4:16 am

Some of it is lack of strength and that is correctable. Some of it is that he plays soft, that may be harder to correct.
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Re: Has Wiggins been compared to Cory Brewer? 

Post#118 » by Dr Positivity » Sun Mar 2, 2014 4:48 am

MrBigShot wrote:I thought Wiggins would be an elite finisher at the college level. Is it just a lack of strength? Underwhelming 1st step? Can't really put my finger on why he struggles at the rim.


Strength, overrated athleticism (he is a great athlete but not generational), but probably just being undeveloped/inexperience. I am guessing 27 year old Wiggins is good at finishing at the rim
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Re: Has Wiggins been compared to Cory Brewer? 

Post#119 » by Big_C_KU » Sun Mar 2, 2014 4:49 am

Finishing around the rim is so hard to watch. Just painful. I think it's one of the easier areas to correct but my gawd he's awful at it.

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Re: Has Wiggins been compared to Cory Brewer? 

Post#120 » by bigboi » Sun Mar 2, 2014 4:54 am

He is really bad at finishing at the rim, actually much worse than I thought. It's a combination of things, he isn't strong enough, some times he just drives looking for a foul, and he just doesn't go up strong enough. There's no excuse why he missed those dunks especially since he's an athlete with a rumored 40 inch vert
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