NBA Draft 2008 and who would you pick first

Palmeirense · Post #101 » by **Palmeirense** » Tue Apr 15, 2014 4:06 am

abneriii wrote:0 - Russell Westbrook
NBA Comparison: Rajon Rondo/Monta Ellis
42 - Kevin Love
NBA Comparison: Wes Unseld
23 - Derrick RoseMemphis
NBA Comparison: Dwyane Wade/Jason Kidd

LOL those are terrible comparisons, who did this?

abneriii · Post #102 » by **abneriii** » Tue Apr 15, 2014 4:43 am

Palmeirense wrote:
abneriii wrote:0 - Russell Westbrook
NBA Comparison: Rajon Rondo/Monta Ellis
42 - Kevin Love
NBA Comparison: Wes Unseld
23 - Derrick RoseMemphis
NBA Comparison: Dwyane Wade/Jason Kidd

LOL those are terrible comparisons, who did this?

NBA Draft Net, go there its a pretty interesting site

ITK9 · Post #103 » by **ITK9** » Tue Apr 15, 2014 5:02 am

1.Rose
2.Love
3.Westbrook
4.Brook Lopez
5.Hibbert

b-ball forever · Post #104 » by **b-ball forever** » Tue Apr 15, 2014 7:25 am

Dupp wrote:
Cyrusman122000 wrote:Kevin Love by far, surprised so many said Westbrook

Agreed. Westbrook has major injury concerns himself so i'm surprised so many are going with him. Even at 100% i'm still taking love.

Westbrook has played 439 career reg season games compared to Love's 362. Love is more of an injury concern

lilojmayo · Post #105 » by **lilojmayo** » Tue Apr 15, 2014 1:34 pm

Keller61 wrote:
lilojmayo wrote:
Illmatic12 wrote:Love
Westbrook
Rose
Lopez
Ibaka

How quickly they forget . Derrick Rose is a generational talent , one of a kind. Westbrook or Love . has never been on the level of MVP Rose 2011 Campaign.

And that was supposed to be just the beginning. He was a long way from his prime when he went down.

I know right. And the scary part is, that Rose would have been able to start picking his spots due to the rise of analytic s and advance metrics, and become scary efficient just like LeBron/Durant have been able to do.

lilojmayo · Post #106 » by **lilojmayo** » Tue Apr 15, 2014 1:43 pm

j-ragg wrote:
lilojmayo wrote:
Illmatic12 wrote:Love
Westbrook
Rose
Lopez
Ibaka

How quickly they forget . Derrick Rose is a generational talent , one of a kind. Westbrook or Love . has never been on the level of MVP Rose 2011 Campaign.

I think his season that year was pretty overrated. Dwight deserved MVP.

Look at Curry's stats this year compared to Rose's MVP year. Curry is better in every facet.

Not Rose's fault he won it, just saying it wasn't some (statistically) crazy unattainable year. The Bulls were just a damn good TEAM.

You can't compare Curry season to Rose's because they are two sides of the ball. Rose is by far the better defender than Curry.

And is simply unguardable , you can't stay in front of him. Curry on the otherhand relies on his outside shoot ( although he is clearly the best shooter in the NBA,....maybe of all time ).

At the end of the day as Doc Rivers says " its a miss or make game " . Can't rely on an outside shot solely to win a championship.

Flight33 · Post #107 » by **Flight33** » Wed Apr 16, 2014 3:15 pm

Westbrook.

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brownbobcat · Post #108 » by **brownbobcat** » Wed Apr 16, 2014 3:35 pm

deneem4 wrote:People forget how many games rose closed out for the bulls...how he literally dominated 4th quarters...look at deng without rose...look at boozer without rose...these are players that thrived because rose was so good...I'm not even a rose fan but being from chicago and watching every game that guy was a monster...yea he froze up against the heat I'm the playoffs but who didnt...He was 22???? Even durant/westbrook/ harden froze up...rose definitely deserved that mvp...The bulls do ok without him but that's because the effect he had...rose played with the fire if westbrook and the smarts of kd...He didn't take bone headed jumpers like westbrook, he made smart plays and took the shots he knew he had...i know he's injured and been taking alot of time off which I hate as a chicago native but don't forget rose was one of the toughest guys on the court

Look at Chicago without Rose and Deng, still going strong. Put a healthy Westbrook on the Bulls this year and is it that inconceivable they could've won 55-60 games? Westbrook isn't as good of a shooter, distributor or game manager, but he is a better defender and rebounder. I take prime Rose over him, but it's not as if he's head and shoulders above Westbrook.

Massamba · Post #109 » by **Massamba** » Wed Apr 16, 2014 4:33 pm

1-Westbrook
2-Rose
3-Love
4-Ibaka
5-Lopez

abneriii · Post #110 » by **abneriii** » Tue May 27, 2014 4:23 am

After tonight's game and most of the playoffs I think Hibbert was picked where he should have been picked at. He is not a Georgetown great center like the rest

Loud_city · Post #111 » by **Loud_city** » Tue May 27, 2014 4:27 am

Crazy how many players was drafted before Ibaka.

jolbin · Post #112 » by **jolbin** » Tue May 27, 2014 6:41 am

Loud_city wrote:Crazy how many players was drafted before Ibaka.

Or before Dragič

Post #113 » by **City of Trees** » Tue May 27, 2014 7:03 am

That year had a solid draft class.

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Walid · Post #114 » by **Walid** » Tue May 27, 2014 7:07 am

Rose with the first pick again. He is still the best when healthy.

Dwade03 · Post #115 » by **Dwade03** » Tue May 27, 2014 8:14 am

Palmeirense wrote:
abneriii wrote:0 - Russell Westbrook
NBA Comparison: Rajon Rondo/Monta Ellis
42 - Kevin Love
NBA Comparison: Wes Unseld
23 - Derrick RoseMemphis
NBA Comparison: Dwyane Wade/Jason Kidd

LOL those are terrible comparisons, who did this?

You think that's terrible, you should see Adam Morrison's comparison lol

http://nbadraft.net/players/adam-morrison

Joao Saraiva · Post #116 » by **Joao Saraiva** » Tue May 27, 2014 11:33 am

abneriii wrote:1. Westbrook. 2 Love. 3. Rose. 4. Hibbert. 5. Brook Lopez. 6. Ibaka 7. Dragic 8. Pekovic 9. McGee 10. Gordon. Westbrook I would send to the Bulls since he is a PG and Love going to the Bulls.

Hibbert above Ibaka or Brook Lopez? Hell no.

Hibbert is sooooooo overrated because of his playing against the Heat in previous years...

Dupp · Post #117 » by **Dupp** » Tue May 27, 2014 11:55 am

Love easily. Westbrook would be second.

Looking back through this list and there were a lot of steals.

jax98 · Post #118 » by **jax98** » Tue May 27, 2014 12:23 pm

People are ignoring one pretty large factor here:

Westbrook improved as he had no injuries. Assuming Rose was healthy, he too would have improved further. So saying Westbrook is the obvious pick (if we ignore injuries) is very short-sighted and very likely wrong when looking at career trajectory.

When Rose went down, he hadn't reached his prime at all. When the ACL tear happened, he was 23.

Dupp · Post #119 » by **Dupp** » Tue May 27, 2014 12:31 pm

Why would we assume no injuries?

Tave · Post #120 » by **Tave** » Tue May 27, 2014 12:36 pm

WiggOuts wrote:
IbankingBoiler wrote:wtf. westbrook over a healthy rose? Pass whatever you are having over here.

The correct answer is obviously DJ Augustin . Klove with honorable mention.

But in all seriousness...westbrook and ONLY because Rose is injury prone currently. Hell westbrook is starting to be injury prone

Im a HUGE Rose fan but IMO, if Thibs had Westbrook in his same system he probably would have gotten the MVP just the same...those guys are cut from a very similar cloth...and Lebron was still the MVP that year, the NBA just loves to make headlines lol

I don't think so. Rose does (did) a lot of damage of hesitation moves and lateral cuts, that's really not Russ's game. Without KD and Ibaka providing space, those straight-line dribble drives become less and less effective. The Bulls have struggled to find shooters who could provide that type of support.