Dante Exum. Biggest bust potential among top picks ?
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Exum is so young. I actually give him a longer leash than I give a guy like MKG. MKG is finally starting to bare some fruit, but he's still wasn't a traditional number 2 talent and wont be when he's at his peak and we all look back on it and it's all said and done.
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[quote="Fidel Sarcasmo"]Exum is so young. I actually give him a longer leash than I give a guy like MKG. MKG is finally starting to bare some fruit, but he's still wasn't a traditional number 2 talent and wont be when he's at his peak and we all look back on it and it's all said and done.[/quote]
Yeah I never got picking a defensive specialist with a pretty broke offensive game at 2
Yeah I never got picking a defensive specialist with a pretty broke offensive game at 2
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beantownski wrote:damecurry wrote:beantownski wrote:i think he'll be ok. i'm just glad the jazz took him to leave smart for my Cs to draft.
heh, we'll see about that in 3-5-10 years from now. Smart's a good player but he does not have the tools and upside exum does.
smart will be a better player than exum...book it.
At what? I don't see what's to like about Smarts game imo... Good but not dominate defender to me.. Bad offensive game. Exum has many more tools to work with..
Too bad he might be injured now
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beantownski wrote:damecurry wrote:beantownski wrote:i think he'll be ok. i'm just glad the jazz took him to leave smart for my Cs to draft.
heh, we'll see about that in 3-5-10 years from now. Smart's a good player but he does not have the tools and upside exum does.
smart will be a better player than exum...book it.
I will book it the other way around, even though it will take an extra year now. Officially booked.
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Dcebucks11 wrote:beantownski wrote:damecurry wrote:heh, we'll see about that in 3-5-10 years from now. Smart's a good player but he does not have the tools and upside exum does.
smart will be a better player than exum...book it.
At what? I don't see what's to like about Smarts game imo... Good but not dominate defender to me.. Bad offensive game. Exum has many more tools to work with..
Too bad he might be injured now
Lol wut? His offensive game isn't bad at all and he's still figuring out the game. We won't know what kind of player he is for another two years. Having said that, Exum has the potential to be the better player, but as of now Smart is better. Exum is younger, coming from overseas and now has to deal with a major injury. It's going to take a lot longer for him to figure it out. His defense will take a hit from this injury and his explosiveness could also take a hit because he's so young and it could easily affect him phychologically. He could end up being Evan Turner, but if he retains everything, he could be much better.
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Not trying to be a Nostradamus or anything like that, but can we all agree that I was right about his big bust potential ? I was told that this thread had bookmark status and I'm glad I bookmarked it.
I got a lot of heat for this thread, but almost 3 years later and Dante Exum hasn't developed anything in his game. I understand that he missed a season due to injuries, but there isn't a slightly sign of development in any area of Exum's game. I mean, look at Joel Embiid or Jabari Parker. Both guys had similar severe injuries, missed tons of games and both look phenomenal regardless .
Exum just got 10 DNPs in a row and can't even beat Mack out of the Jazz rotation. You look at the Jazz board, there's a 10-page thread with a the title - "My faith on Exum has been broken".
Still can't run a team (was never a PG in my mind ), his handle is really poor for a guard, he has a passive mindset and can't shoot to save his life. Speed was enough for him in HS. You need way more than that to get it done in the NBA.
In hindsight, It's crazy how the Magic got trashed for taking Gordon over Exum , but some fellows were so sure that Exum would be the next 6'6 Tony Parker or had Penny Hardaway ceiling (just read the past pages). Gordon may not be a future star, but at least he is NBA material for sure and has showed great flashes in some games.
Fair to call him a bust already ? or some fellows still have high hopes for him as a future star ?
I got a lot of heat for this thread, but almost 3 years later and Dante Exum hasn't developed anything in his game. I understand that he missed a season due to injuries, but there isn't a slightly sign of development in any area of Exum's game. I mean, look at Joel Embiid or Jabari Parker. Both guys had similar severe injuries, missed tons of games and both look phenomenal regardless .
Exum just got 10 DNPs in a row and can't even beat Mack out of the Jazz rotation. You look at the Jazz board, there's a 10-page thread with a the title - "My faith on Exum has been broken".
Still can't run a team (was never a PG in my mind ), his handle is really poor for a guard, he has a passive mindset and can't shoot to save his life. Speed was enough for him in HS. You need way more than that to get it done in the NBA.
In hindsight, It's crazy how the Magic got trashed for taking Gordon over Exum , but some fellows were so sure that Exum would be the next 6'6 Tony Parker or had Penny Hardaway ceiling (just read the past pages). Gordon may not be a future star, but at least he is NBA material for sure and has showed great flashes in some games.
Fair to call him a bust already ? or some fellows still have high hopes for him as a future star ?
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Guy was a cat in the bag pick for sure. Altho he had a good FIBA U19 tournament (18.2 /3.2 /3.8), which is comparable to NCAA talent level.
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LoyalKing wrote:Not trying to be a Nostradamus or anything like that, but can we all agree that I was right about his big bust potential ? I was told that this thread had bookmark status and I'm glad I bookmarked it.
I got a lot of heat for this thread, but almost 3 years later and Dante Exum hasn't developed anything in his game. I understand that he missed a season due to injuries, but there isn't a slightly sign of development in any area of Exum's game. I mean, look at Joel Embiid or Jabari Parker. Both guys had similar severe injuries, missed tons of games and both look phenomenal regardless .
Exum just got 10 DNPs in a row and can't even beat Mack out of the Jazz rotation. You look at the Jazz board, there's a 10-page thread with a the title - "My faith on Exum has been broken".
Still can't run a team (was never a PG in my mind ), his handle is really poor for a guard, he has a passive mindset and can't shoot to save his life. Speed was enough for him in HS. You need way more than that to get it done in the NBA.
In hindsight, It's crazy how the Magic got trashed for taking Gordon over Exum , but some fellows were so sure that Exum would be the next 6'6 Tony Parker or had Penny Hardaway ceiling (just read the past pages). Gordon may not be a future star, but at least he is NBA material for sure and has showed great flashes in some games.
Fair to call him a bust already ? or some fellows still have high hopes for him as a future star ?
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I think that he is a better prospect than Exum.
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Definitely have to admit I was off on him up until this point. Still young but he should be much further in his development. He was pegged as a hardworker and given his physical tools, I thought he would figure it out but the mental aspect is the hardest to project. Definitely undersold his lack of creativity as a ballhandler though I think the shot will still improve in time and PGs usually take time to adjust to running an NBA offense.
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reanimator wrote:Definitely have to admit I was off on him up until this point. Still young but he should be much further in his development. He was pegged as a hardworker and given his physical tools, I thought he would figure it out but the mental aspect is the hardest to project. Definitely undersold his lack of creativity as a ballhandler though I think the shot will still improve in time and PGs usually take time to adjust to running an NBA offense.
only 21 years old, and lost a season due to injury. everyone said he was a project. could still be a solid player but what kinda sucks is if he becomes what people envision him to be, it could be another 5 years down the road
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He hasn't improved his handles and he's a guard. That's the basic two ball dribbling routine that Anthony Davis (a 4/5 man) does. His work ethic was oversold, he clearly doesn't work on anything. Not his body or his game, because it doesn't show in any actual games he plays.
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Chuck Everett wrote:He hasn't improved his handles and he's a guard. That's the basic two ball dribbling routine that Anthony Davis (a 4/5 man) does. His work ethic was oversold, he clearly doesn't work on anything. Not his body or his game, because it doesn't show in any actual games he plays.
How long has he been healthy? I don't mean cleared, I mean actually healthy. I think he'll be a late bloomer. He's also not as quick as he was before at all. His first step made him special and it has disappeared.
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There was just very little useful data points on him. There wasn't for Giannis either and that worked out, but so long as teams keep trying to find Giannis they're gonna end up with Bruno or Exums if he ends up being a bust as well
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Dr Positivity wrote:There was just very little useful data points on him. There wasn't for Giannis either and that worked out, but so long as teams keep trying to find Giannis they're gonna end up with Bruno or Exums if he ends up being a bust as well
Yeah good point. In a way, NCAA 3-4 year seniors could be equated to large cap equities. 1-2 Year NCAA are mid-cap. International are small cap, with players outside of Europe and Turkey being especially uncertain.
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One of those prospects where their tools alone where enough to let them dominate the amateur ranks. Then again selling point with Exum is that he's a blank canvass on 2014 where a team would need to bet on player development for him to be great. It paid off for the Bucks with Giannis.
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Exum looked good a couple games ago against Detroit. He can really make plays with the pass, using his length and speed to get angles. Plus he had a couple blow-bys for lay-ups in the half court. His perimeter defense was also a big upgrade over our other back-up PGs. I wouldn't write him off. If he ever puts it together, he'll be an impact player in the league.
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dorkestra wrote:Yeah good point. In a way, NCAA 3-4 year seniors could be equated to large cap equities. 1-2 Year NCAA are mid-cap. International are small cap, with players outside of Europe and Turkey being especially uncertain.
Turkey is a European country.
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Mirotic12 wrote:dorkestra wrote:Yeah good point. In a way, NCAA 3-4 year seniors could be equated to large cap equities. 1-2 Year NCAA are mid-cap. International are small cap, with players outside of Europe and Turkey being especially uncertain.
Turkey is a European country.
Sort of. Depends on who you ask. It's also Asian or Middle Eastern by some people's definition.
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