Brandon Ingram

jpatrick · Post #21 » by **jpatrick** » Mon Nov 16, 2015 2:54 pm

Played poorly his first game, no matter what the highlights say. Missed a ton of wide open threes (1-9) and didn't show any ability to beat his man off the dribble. While super skinny, his body did look better than last year and with his length/quickness, he at least has the look of a defensive stopper on the wing.

Saw most of his second game and while Ingram didn't show a lot of ability to beat his man, his shot was back and he knocked down most everything.

Anyone who compared him to Durant is crazy. Durant stepped on to campus at Texas and when Augustine would give him the ball, he always looked like the best player on the court. Ingram doesn't have that skill level. However, Ingram's only played two games and he is very young, almost 1.5 years younger than Skal and Simmons, so lets see where he goes from here.

ImChillin01 · Post #22 » by **ImChillin01** » Mon Nov 16, 2015 3:37 pm

jpatrick wrote:Played poorly his first game, no matter what the highlights say. Missed a ton of wide open threes (1-9) and didn't show any ability to beat his man off the dribble. While super skinny, his body did look better than last year and with his length/quickness, he at least has the look of a defensive stopper on the wing.

Saw most of his second game and while Ingram didn't show a lot of ability to beat his man, his shot was back and he knocked down most everything.

Anyone who compared him to Durant is crazy. Durant stepped on to campus at Texas and when Augustine would give him the ball, he always looked like the best player on the court. Ingram doesn't have that skill level. However, Ingram's only played two games and he is very young, almost 1.5 years younger than Skal and Simmons, so lets see where he goes from here.

Ingram is KD lite, just like Simmons is LeBron lite

crazy_me_87 · Post #23 » by **crazy_me_87** » Mon Nov 16, 2015 8:16 pm

ImChillin01 wrote:Ingram is KD lite, just like Simmons is LeBron lite

yeah i think so too.
To what kind of careers that translates remains to be seen.

What is a KD lite? or a Lebron lite? We dont have those players really in the NBA right now so its hard to predict.

Kobe is MJ lite but does that mean Ingram and Simmons will still be top 20 of all time Players like Kobe? i honestly cant say. unlikley but i hope it^^ thats the fun too in watching young prospects.. imagining what they could become. The Potential is there with both Ingram and Simmons.. its up to them and good fortune(health etc) if they can reach it

No-Man · Post #24 » by **No-Man** » Mon Nov 16, 2015 8:25 pm

Ingram seems more plugged defensively that what I recall from Durant, at the same time Kevin played a ton of C for Texas that season, Ingram seems a bit more in the TPrince/Porter side of the spectrum than Durants, not saying that he is that team first guy, but he score that way, cuts, open shots, uses his length in defense, he has some stuff of what Kawhi is doing right now too.
A bit more down to earth Durant, in terms of scoring, but better defensively, he is, or looks to me, quicker or more agile when he is tunned in terms of defending small players, I could see him playing the SG eventually, something that I never thought about Durant, who I think will be better as a PF moving forward.

Post #25 » by **Undefeated** » Mon Nov 16, 2015 8:40 pm

Fischella wrote:Ingram seems more plugged defensively that what I recall from Durant, at the same time Kevin played a ton of C for Texas that season, Ingram seems a bit more in the TPrince/Porter side of the spectrum than Durants, not saying that he is that team first guy, but he score that way, cuts, open shots, uses his length in defense, he has some stuff of what Kawhi is doing right now too.
A bit more down to earth Durant, in terms of scoring, but better defensively, he is, or looks to me, quicker or more agile when he is tunned in terms of defending small players, I could see him playing the SG eventually, something that I never thought about Durant, who I think will be better as a PF moving forward.

Ya, Coach K has him at the top of their defense a lot of times when Duke goes into a 1-2-2 press. He's been getting a lot of deflections and guys have a hard time getting past him.

EddieJonesFan · Post #26 » by **EddieJonesFan** » Tue Nov 17, 2015 11:18 pm

How is he different from Quincy Miller? For those that were familiar with Miller at the same stage.

Post #27 » by **Undefeated** » Wed Nov 18, 2015 1:16 am

QMiller was a lot slower and wasn't as nimble as Ingram. Ingram's lateral quickness is far superior. K has him playing a lot at the top of their 1-2-2 press.

OleSchool · Post #28 » by **OleSchool** » Wed Nov 18, 2015 2:59 am

He didn't do anything offensively against Kentucky but, he was tuned in defensively

Unbreakable99 · Post #29 » by **Unbreakable99** » Wed Nov 18, 2015 3:36 am

Not impressed so far.

rumdiary · Post #30 » by **rumdiary** » Wed Nov 18, 2015 9:24 pm

Highlights vs Bryant

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94p0c6Xo8nE[/youtube]

Post #31 » by **Marcus** » Sat Nov 21, 2015 9:33 pm

OleSchool wrote:He didn't do anything offensively against Kentucky but, he was tuned in defensively

team as a whole missed a lot of shots they should have hit. Ingram missed some midrangers that are bunnies for him. Kennard missed some open looks.

just a bad game all-around for the squad.

Still don't understand why Derryck Thornton isn't starting at PG btw. Not sure what coach K is doing in that regard.

Post #32 » by **Duke4life831** » Sat Nov 21, 2015 10:04 pm

Marcus wrote:
OleSchool wrote:He didn't do anything offensively against Kentucky but, he was tuned in defensively

team as a whole missed a lot of shots they should have hit. Ingram missed some midrangers that are bunnies for him. Kennard missed some open looks.

just a bad game all-around for the squad.

Still don't understand why Derryck Thornton isn't starting at PG btw. Not sure what coach K is doing in that regard.

Thornton started last nights game and is supposed to start from here on out. Thornton reclassed so he spent all summer getting all the credits needed to join Duke this year. So he missed the entire summer with the team, so he has been playing catch up with learning the system and building chemistry. But he seems all caught up now and he is a big time game changer for us. We have no offensive flow when he is not in the game and he is a great on ball defender. When it comes to Ingram, he is becoming a big defensive liability especially on the ball, cant stay in front of his man. And offensively he has been beyond terrible for the year. He had one good game against a non top 200 team, either than that he is averaging less than 10 ppg on 27% shooting and 0.08% from 3 plus terrible free throw shooting.

Post #33 » by **Marcus** » Sat Nov 21, 2015 11:20 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:
Marcus wrote:
OleSchool wrote:He didn't do anything offensively against Kentucky but, he was tuned in defensively

team as a whole missed a lot of shots they should have hit. Ingram missed some midrangers that are bunnies for him. Kennard missed some open looks.

just a bad game all-around for the squad.

Still don't understand why Derryck Thornton isn't starting at PG btw. Not sure what coach K is doing in that regard.

Thornton started last nights game and is supposed to start from here on out. Thornton reclassed so he spent all summer getting all the credits needed to join Duke this year. So he missed the entire summer with the team, so he has been playing catch up with learning the system and building chemistry. But he seems all caught up now and he is a big time game changer for us. We have no offensive flow when he is not in the game and he is a great on ball defender. When it comes to Ingram, he is becoming a big defensive liability especially on the ball, cant stay in front of his man. And offensively he has been beyond terrible for the year. He had one good game against a non top 200 team, either than that he is averaging less than 10 ppg on 27% shooting and 0.08% from 3 plus terrible free throw shooting.

Well Thornton starting is good news. Kiddo is the only legit PG they have on the roster and I figured with all the scoring around him he should be primed for a pretty good year. Watching that UK game he was the only defender capable of staying in front of Ulis and forcing him to take tough shots.

Post #34 » by **Duke4life831** » Sat Nov 21, 2015 11:27 pm

Marcus wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:
Marcus wrote:
team as a whole missed a lot of shots they should have hit. Ingram missed some midrangers that are bunnies for him. Kennard missed some open looks.

just a bad game all-around for the squad.

Still don't understand why Derryck Thornton isn't starting at PG btw. Not sure what coach K is doing in that regard.

Thornton started last nights game and is supposed to start from here on out. Thornton reclassed so he spent all summer getting all the credits needed to join Duke this year. So he missed the entire summer with the team, so he has been playing catch up with learning the system and building chemistry. But he seems all caught up now and he is a big time game changer for us. We have no offensive flow when he is not in the game and he is a great on ball defender. When it comes to Ingram, he is becoming a big defensive liability especially on the ball, cant stay in front of his man. And offensively he has been beyond terrible for the year. He had one good game against a non top 200 team, either than that he is averaging less than 10 ppg on 27% shooting and 0.08% from 3 plus terrible free throw shooting.

Well Thornton starting is good news. Kiddo is the only legit PG they have on the roster and I figured with all the scoring around him he should be primed for a pretty good year. Watching that UK game he was the only defender capable of staying in front of Ulis and forcing him to take tough shots.

Ya he is. The team needs him to play 35+ minutes a game. Ya defensively he looks like he is a stud on that end, he is lightening quick and moves his feet very well. He makes Duke a much much better team on both sides. It will be fun to watch this team grow this year

Post #35 » by **Marcus** » Sat Nov 21, 2015 11:32 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:
Marcus wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:
Thornton started last nights game and is supposed to start from here on out. Thornton reclassed so he spent all summer getting all the credits needed to join Duke this year. So he missed the entire summer with the team, so he has been playing catch up with learning the system and building chemistry. But he seems all caught up now and he is a big time game changer for us. We have no offensive flow when he is not in the game and he is a great on ball defender. When it comes to Ingram, he is becoming a big defensive liability especially on the ball, cant stay in front of his man. And offensively he has been beyond terrible for the year. He had one good game against a non top 200 team, either than that he is averaging less than 10 ppg on 27% shooting and 0.08% from 3 plus terrible free throw shooting.

Well Thornton starting is good news. Kiddo is the only legit PG they have on the roster and I figured with all the scoring around him he should be primed for a pretty good year. Watching that UK game he was the only defender capable of staying in front of Ulis and forcing him to take tough shots.

Ya he is. The team needs him to play 35+ minutes a game. Ya defensively he looks like he is a stud on that end, he is lightening quick and moves his feet very well. He makes Duke a much much better team on both sides. It will be fun to watch this team grow this year

same thing I was thinking. in watching that UK game you can see what's there with Duke this year. It just all needs to come together. Jeter needs to get tougher to stay on the floor seems like cause Plum and Amile aren't gonna be outworked down there. I think having a true PG and growing around Thornton should tie up whatever loose ends that seem to exist right now. Luke and Brandon's shots will start to fall and they should look like a completely different team come March.

Post #36 » by **Undefeated** » Sun Nov 22, 2015 1:58 am

Thronton struggled mightily to set up Duke's offense in the first 2 games and they were against inferior opponents and Coach K doesn't even run that complicate of an offense mostly Motion PNR. He also struggled to finish inside. He played well against UK but can't discount those 2 previous games.

I haven't watched the VCU game yet, but Ingram was caught guarding Murray/Briscoe a lot and you can't expect a guy like him to stay in front of them. He at least challenged Briscoe a few times from behind after he got beat.

Dcebucks11 · Post #37 » by **Dcebucks11** » Sun Nov 22, 2015 2:57 am

Doesn't look like a top 10 pick to me. Haven't seen anything good on either end of the floor but it's early.

Post #38 » by **Duke4life831** » Sun Nov 22, 2015 9:05 pm

Lost his starting spot and today he continued his awful play. Starting to think he is not a lock to be in this year's draft. He's been being horrible to start the year

Dcebucks11 · Post #39 » by **Dcebucks11** » Sun Nov 22, 2015 9:08 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:Lost his starting spot and today he continued his awful play. Starting to think he is not a lock to be in this year's draft. He's been being horrible to start the year

He needs one more year of strength training and to work on that jumper, that's for sure. He reminds me of Corey Brewer right now.

Post #40 » by **Duke4life831** » Sun Nov 22, 2015 9:11 pm

Dcebucks11 wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:Lost his starting spot and today he continued his awful play. Starting to think he is not a lock to be in this year's draft. He's been being horrible to start the year

He needs one more year of strength training and to work on that jumper, that's for sure. He reminds me of Corey Brewer right now.

Ya definitely needs another year minimum to work on his body. He wouldn't see a second in the NBA with his body right now. Right now he's Corey Brewer is Brewer was terrible on the defensive end.