Buddy Hield

[Mustinjo]

It's incredible how ridiculous the hype around him has become. When it comes to stories like this people just can't wait to start completely idolize someone without an ounce of rationale.

[Village Idiot]

I see Buddy being 50% Wesley Matthews and 50% Ben Gordon. He's strong but not not explosive. Not ideal size for a SG, not quick enough to guard PGs and not a great handle. Like Matthews his intangibles are off the chart. He won't be a star but he'll be one heck of a complimentary starter on a good team.

[FreakMaster]

Hield will definitely be a top 10 pick simply by what he's done carrying his team to the Final 4. The exposure will elevate his draft status. If OU wins it all or even makes it to the Championship gm expect him to go between 3 and 5.
Ben Simmons
Brandon Ingram
Buddy Hield
Kris Dunn
Jaylen Brown

Picks 3,4 & 5 are interchangeable. Either one of those three could go 3,4 or 5.

What I like with Buddy is his ability to shoot the 3 off of the dribble. After watching Steph Curry do it GM's will be looking for that trait in a guard too. He'll have to work on his handles and passing, but he won't be one of those high draft picks that'll be stuck at the end of the bench, and disappears to the D league or overseas somewhere in 2 yrs. He has the tools to play in the NBA for a long time.
He has a scorers mentality and a clutch gene which makes him worth taking a chance on. Of course he'll have to connect on that 3 pt shot at a high rate in order to see playing time, but teams are looking for guys who can stretch the floor and he'll fit in the NBA just fine.

[Patsfan1081]

Have you seen how Redick moves? Hield is pretty avg athletically, JJ is quick as ****, he is above Buddy in that regard quite clearly.
Same with BG, not even the same conversation.
But hey you have people comparing Buddy to EJ Gordon, who was a once in a lifetime type of athlete at his size, mass and explosiveness.

Honestly I don't know what you're watching a lot of the time. I have seen Reddick, he is great at what he does because of technique. He is in the league through shear work ethic despite his physical limitations. Hield does not have those physical limitations. Hield is a far better athlete with a far better body. Again I don't know what you're watching.

Redick is shiftier, quicker, more dynamic, can move, and could move in Duke, with screens much better than Hield, other than been shooters their games are not that similar.
Hield is a bit bigger, longer and bulkier, but he doesnt have elite quickness in his game.
Having more size doesnt equal to been more athletic, and athleticism is not only about explositivty.

Yeah, I don't agree with you either. Even NBAdraft.net rates Hield as a 8 in athlectism and had Reddick as a 7 coming out. Hield has def added a quicker first step and has become a lot more cut since his freshmen year, he has a NBA ready body. He's a much better slasher than Reddick was coming out. Neither one was close to the athlete Eric Gordon was coming out but Hield isn't an average athlete or on the same level as Reddick.

[Patsfan1081]

I just notice the comp was Ben not Eric Gordon, big difference. I could see similarities, Hield doesn't have the lift that Ben had on his jumpshot but they look similar as shot creators.

[saintEscaton]

Don't think his lackluster Final Four showing will affect his stock, OU choked as a whole. Villanova absolutely steamrolled them shooting 71% from the field, what an embarassment

[No-Man]

Don't think his lackluster Final Four showing will affect his stock, OU choked as a whole. Villanova absolutely steamrolled them shooting 71% from the field, what an embarassment

He really struggled defensively though, when he is not on the ball he is clueless, and he was really lazy in terms of fighting for space off the ball, _I_'d be much more confidence with him if he had shown more 3&D skills and less ballhandling that is anyway going to not matter at all because he is not good enough to playing on the ball at the next level.

[Old Man Game]

I thought Villanova, having seen Hield already earlier in the season and having had a week to scheme for him in the rematch, did a great job making sure he saw multiple defenders and forcing him out of his comfort zone. They forced him into handling the ball in traffic and forcing him to make decisions. Neither of which are his strong suits.

That said, I'd hope that 1 game didn't change anyone's mind too much one way or another. I think GMs probably have a pretty good handle on what he is and what he can bring and what he can't bring at this point.

[No-Man]

I thought Villanova, having seen Hield already earlier in the season and having had a week to scheme for him in the rematch, did a great job making sure he saw multiple defenders and forcing him out of his comfort zone. They forced him into handling the ball in traffic and forcing him to make decisions. Neither of which are his strong suits.

That said, I'd hope that 1 game didn't change anyone's mind too much one way or another. I think GMs probably have a pretty good handle on what he is and what he can bring and what he can't bring at this point.

sure they do, I never had him as a lotto pick and I dont now either, smart GMs wont also, there would be a dumb one that will, it only takes one

[JMac1]

I thought Villanova, having seen Hield already earlier in the season and having had a week to scheme for him in the rematch, did a great job making sure he saw multiple defenders and forcing him out of his comfort zone. They forced him into handling the ball in traffic and forcing him to make decisions. Neither of which are his strong suits.

That said, I'd hope that 1 game didn't change anyone's mind too much one way or another. I think GMs probably have a pretty good handle on what he is and what he can bring and what he can't bring at this point.

sure they do, I never had him as a lotto pick and I dont now either, smart GMs wont also, there would be a dumb one that will, it only takes one

So if some doesn't have the same opinion as you, they are dumb? It is more reasonable to pick him in the lotto more than it isn't, IMO.

[Notanoob]

I'm not a huge Hield fan so this game just helped confirm what I already thought about him - bench player in the NBA. Can't really see the floor well so you can't have him handling it that much.

[Dame Lizard]

I thought Villanova, having seen Hield already earlier in the season and having had a week to scheme for him in the rematch, did a great job making sure he saw multiple defenders and forcing him out of his comfort zone. They forced him into handling the ball in traffic and forcing him to make decisions. Neither of which are his strong suits.

That said, I'd hope that 1 game didn't change anyone's mind too much one way or another. I think GMs probably have a pretty good handle on what he is and what he can bring and what he can't bring at this point.

sure they do, I never had him as a lotto pick and I dont now either, smart GMs wont also, there would be a dumb one that will, it only takes one

Was Neil Olshey dumb for taking Lillard? Also bearing in mind that Lillard did what he did against, on average, substantially weak NCAA teams.

[No-Man]

Was Neil Olshey dumb for taking Lillard? Also bearing in mind that Lillard did what he did against, on average, substantially weak NCAA teams.

I didnt watch any of Lillard's tape when he was in college so I cant really make a proper assesment on that, I can tell you that Hield is not that type of player.

[toussaud]

Can't create separation from plus defenders

Doesn't really move all that great off the ball


L defense besides stealing a lazy pass here and there is non existent

But the biggest thing to me is, if i'm a top 5 talent in the final four and having not my best offensive game ever I can and will effect the game defensively lol your pg might as well go home for the night he's locked down

But instead if trying to help, he just chucks more threes and they took turuns making him their prison bitch all night lol no freaking heart at all

[GimmeDat]

He's not athletic enough or good enough of a ball handler to be a real creator at the next level, but people who say he 'can't' dribble is stretching it.

I know 1 play doesn't suffice for evidence much, but I just saw this play a moment ago and it shows you that he has more to his game than simply catch and shoot -

https://www.instagram.com/p/BDubq5bICwm/?taken-by=houseofhighlights (couldn't embed for some reason).

Is he going to be great at this sort of stuff at the NBA level? Probably not. But he is respectable off the dribble.

[No-Man]

He's not athletic enough or good enough of a ball handler to be a real creator at the next level, but people who say he 'can't' dribble is stretching it.

I know 1 play doesn't suffice for evidence much, but I just saw this play a moment ago and it shows you that he has more to his game than simply catch and shoot -

https://www.instagram.com/p/BDubq5bICwm/?taken-by=houseofhighlights (couldn't embed for some reason).

Is he going to be great at this sort of stuff at the NBA level? Probably not. But he is respectable off the dribble.

In that situation he is attacking a close-out against a 6'11 slow big, I mean sure, he can dribble in those spots, but he cant do that consistently for your team, and not against NBA athletes.

He needs to work his tail off running off screens and defending his man, and I dont think he is close to been good at any of those things yet and he will be 23 when his rookie season starts.

Again, his workethic is there, reportedly, but understanding your role as a pro and who you are is crucial, I doubt he knows that yet, and is not a great sign coming from a Senior.

[RSCD3_]

He's not athletic enough or good enough of a ball handler to be a real creator at the next level, but people who say he 'can't' dribble is stretching it.

I know 1 play doesn't suffice for evidence much, but I just saw this play a moment ago and it shows you that he has more to his game than simply catch and shoot -

https://www.instagram.com/p/BDubq5bICwm/?taken-by=houseofhighlights (couldn't embed for some reason).

Is he going to be great at this sort of stuff at the NBA level? Probably not. But he is respectable off the dribble.

In that situation he is attacking a close-out against a 6'11 slow big, I mean sure, he can dribble in those spots, but he cant do that consistently for your team, and not against NBA athletes.

He needs to work his tail off running off screens and defending his man, and I dont think he is close to been good at any of those things yet and he will be 23 when his rookie season starts.

Again, his workethic is there, reportedly, but understanding your role as a pro and who you are is crucial, I doubt he knows that yet, and is not a great sign coming from a Senior.

Well korver and reddick have had decent success in taking hard dribbles into midrange shots or passes to other shooters for 3's when there is a person going full speed on a closeout. I dont know why buddy would be worse than them, im incined to think he could be moderately better in that respect in fact he has a better handle/speed than korver and has 5 more inches of wingspan and better leaping ability thus than reddick.

[youngthegiant]

People are sleeping on Hield. He's going to be a special player.

[peachbucket]

He's not athletic enough or good enough of a ball handler to be a real creator at the next level, but people who say he 'can't' dribble is stretching it.

I know 1 play doesn't suffice for evidence much, but I just saw this play a moment ago and it shows you that he has more to his game than simply catch and shoot -

https://www.instagram.com/p/BDubq5bICwm/?taken-by=houseofhighlights (couldn't embed for some reason).

Is he going to be great at this sort of stuff at the NBA level? Probably not. But he is respectable off the dribble.

In that situation he is attacking a close-out against a 6'11 slow big, I mean sure, he can dribble in those spots, but he cant do that consistently for your team, and not against NBA athletes.

He needs to work his tail off running off screens and defending his man, and I dont think he is close to been good at any of those things yet and he will be 23 when his rookie season starts.

Again, his workethic is there, reportedly, but understanding your role as a pro and who you are is crucial, I doubt he knows that yet, and is not a great sign coming from a Senior.

Well korver and reddick have had decent success in taking hard dribbles into midrange shots or passes to other shooters for 3's when there is a person going full speed on a closeout. I dont know why buddy would be worse than them, im incined to think he could be moderately better in that respect in fact he has a better handle/speed than korver and has 5 more inches of wingspan and better leaping ability thus than reddick.

Fisichella, why exactly don't you think Hield can be a better version of JJ Reddick?? They have very similar shooting numbers for their senior years with the edge going to Hield. Hield however is a significantly better rebounder/defender due to his length. This should also make it easier for him to create and get his shot off at the next level.

[saintEscaton]

He's not getting knocked enough IMO. His three unspectular seasons makes me wonder whether the astronomical leap he took was a flukey aberration that will regress back to his median. I can't dismiss his prolific TS% on high volume tho, but all I see an spot up catch and shoot specialist who can put it on the deck when needed. But I don't think he's good enough of of a playmake/r one on one isolation scorer to dominate the ball as much as he needs to be effective. An undersized SG without ideal wing measurables who may just barely hold up on the other end because you never question his effort.I see some stylistic resemblance to Wes Matthews without the off hand finishing/post up game