So Clutch wrote:theonlyeastcoastrapsfan wrote:Here's the thing with leverage. In a regular trade, we would be in the driver seat to make a trade when we got a good offer. With a s&t it's usualy already established the player is leaving, and this is a way they can get the most money possible, despite leaving the team. Now, if a team is over the cap, so like Lakers, Dallas, Houston, San Antonio, Cleveland (if LeBron stays) this is the only way they can get Bosh. In a regular FA scenario only teams with capspace could get the player, through s&t any team the player wants to go to is in play. With Bosh seeing himself as a max player, it helps as it means extra incentive for him to sign with us no matter where he goes, and he expects wherever he goes to be willing to pay it. Now, the teams that are under the cap, MIA NY CHI Clippers NJ do not need us to sign CB to a max deal, but they do for CB to get the deal he feels he deserves. Teams without capspace have to send contracts back near CB's new deal, teams under the cap don't, they just have to satisfy us, so that we agree to do it. If we don't it would mean less money for CB so it may impact where he wants to sign. If there's only one place CB will consider playing, then no, we would not have a whole lot of leverege to stand between where a player wants to go by playing hardball. It's important to have a good relationship with the player and the players agent. I think with the cap going down, BC figured a lot of teams would not clear the space, but with chi and houston-NY doing their deals, chi has capspace and NY has enough space for two. Still, they will need to give us something.
If CB wants to leave I think the best bet for us is Houston, and don't think Morey doesn't know it. I think Amare will go to Mia with Wade, not sure about LeBron, if CB leaves I think he goes to NY with JJ or Lebron, or to Chicago or houston.
If he goes to NY I think we get Lee and TPE
From chicago Gibson, Johnson, +pick
Houston, we could get anything but Brooks and Yao
Now you throw a 3rd team in there. Things get harder to predict. I love for us to somehow acquire the rights to rubio. Also, if Amare leave PHX you have to wonder if they are going to want to rebuild and part with Nash. BC should try to connect with the agents of players who would ask to be traded here.
How big is "where Chris wants to go" going to be a factor. What if the team he wants to go to is going to offer us ****. Are we going to take it up the ass just so we can have a good reputation with agents? I sure as hell hope not.
It's huge. Bosh in all likelihood will get both his wishes this summer... Where he wants to play and the 126 mil contract.
As for the "offering us ****" bit. It depends what you qualify as ****. Us and Phx will likely get one-two mid 1sts and a TPE for Bosh/Amare as they tell their new teams they're not signing unless it's for 126 (and we won't S&T without a price). If you're expecting a Noah like return, it's not happening.
Two 14-20 1sts and a TPE is a decent return. I'd love to package them together and move into the top 10, then pick Cole Aldrich. Derozan/Bargnani/Aldrich... not a bad way to start over
