NY Post Jonas: "I like challenges"

[Scase]

He's more likely to average 4/3 or 5/4 in his rookie year than anything else.

To this I requote tofubeque

Ed Davis put up 7 and 7 with 2.8 fouls in his rookie year. 6 and 6, 2.4 last year.

You honestly think Jonas is going to have a tougher time than our skinny 6'9" PF who has barely seen consistent minutes or a defined role?

If he can't do as well as Ed, we are screwed.

[Jester_]

Don't expect much more than what Kanter has been able to do so far.

[joediamond]

Interesting, bleachers fantasy report rated Jonas as one of this years draft sleepers.

Projected Stats: 13.4 points, 7.9 rebounds, 1.7 blocks, .554 FG%, 28 minutes

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1328 ... -on/page/8

I think we'd all be jumping out of our seats if he puts up those numbers.

bleacher report is garbage.

I would agree, I don't have too much faith in the Bleacher Report, but I wouldn't say those numbers are too far off... probably a bit more conservative, along the lines of 11pts, 6- 7rbds, 1 blk on 53%FG.

There's no way Val will shoot anything under 60%. He never has in his entire career, with the exception of the olympics, where he was sparingly used as teams went small ball against them alot(almost as if to intentionally take him out of the game) and now they're looking for a new head coach. I mean he was brilliant last year against the same players, ( where he also played with jasikevicius much more)

If barg's 13 games in too small of a sample size to judge him, so is his olympic performance.

[C_Money]

He probably would have been better off joining our Summer League team.

Every time I read this sentiment I question what the person saying it is doing here.

On the one hand, you have playing in the Olympics, participating in a world-class event, and competing against some of the best players in the world.

On the other hand, you have an informal league where the games and the score mean absolutely nothing where you are playing against teams of players, most of whom have no chance of ever playing a minute in the NBA.

Its just mind-boggling that someone would even think to compare the two.

Even if he didn't see a single minute of floor time in the Olympics, the experience of being there is more valuable than 1000 summer league games.

There was more defense being played in Summer League than there was in the Olympics. I watched both of them. Some of those European teams don't play a lick of defense and Val barely even got playing time against Team USA.

[ansoncarter]

Don't expect much more than what Kanter has been able to do so far.

one of the youngest players in league history who after missing an entire year of organized bball immediately becomes a dominant rebounder and plays defence? I'd be fine with that. It's kind of a minor miracle either of those things happened (assuming they did, I just remember reading that on the Utah board)

[Dr Positivity]

Kanter was as productive as rookie Davis and just got less minutes, btw. 7/7 in 24mpg is 4/4 in 13mpg

I have no doubt in my mind people will be mad at Casey for not playing Valanciunas more this year

[Dr Positivity]

Looking at the frontcourt minutes, say these are givens on a regular, healthy night.
Bargnani - 35mpg
Gray - 13mpg
Amir - 22mpg

Bargnani and Amir are the two best frontcourt players and will get their usual burn. Gray will start and take post matchups enough to get around that MP. That's 70 minutes of 96 frontcourt ones, so that leaves 26 between Davis, Valanciunas and Acy if he plays.

We could very well see both Ed and Valanciunas at 13-16mpg to start the season, or one of them at a mere 8-12mpg. The hope for the Raptors would be that by the end of the season the rotation would look more like:

Bargnani - 35mpg
Gray - 5mpg
Amir - 22mpg
Davis - 14mpg
Valanciunas - 20mpg

While with injury time over the year Valanciunas total MP ends up in the 16-20mpg range

[ansoncarter]

kantners Rebound% would have been 5th in the league. Ed Davis was 20th his rookie year

and he's a few years older, which is pretty significant at those ages. Think kantner was more impressive, not completely sure though, just going off impressions I got reading the utah board a few times

[DG88]

He probably would have been better off joining our Summer League team.

Every time I read this sentiment I question what the person saying it is doing here.

On the one hand, you have playing in the Olympics, participating in a world-class event, and competing against some of the best players in the world.

On the other hand, you have an informal league where the games and the score mean absolutely nothing where you are playing against teams of players, most of whom have no chance of ever playing a minute in the NBA.

Its just mind-boggling that someone would even think to compare the two.

Even if he didn't see a single minute of floor time in the Olympics, the experience of being there is more valuable than 1000 summer league games.

There was more defense being played in Summer League than there was in the Olympics. I watched both of them. Some of those European teams don't play a lick of defense and Val barely even got playing time against Team USA.

It's something called matchups bro . Do you want Jonas to defend Carmelo Anthony for the majority of the game? Because the USA went small ball for all their games because it gave them the greatest advantage to utilize their athleticism to overwhelm their opponents. Foul trouble and being the youngest on a veteran team that's vying for a medal were the reasons why Jonas got little playing time. In summer league he wouldn't have learned just how much he still needs to work to be at the level that he needs be to be a force in the NBA level. All summer league would have done is make unrealistic expectations run wild on this board.

[C_Money]

It's something called matchups bro . Do you want Jonas to defend Carmelo Anthony for the majority of the game? Because the USA went small ball for all their games because it gave them the greatest advantage to utilize their athleticism to overwhelm their opponents. Foul trouble and being the youngest on a veteran team that's vying for a medal were the reasons why Jonas got little playing time. In summer league he wouldn't have learned just how much he still needs to work to be at the level that he needs be to be a force in the NBA level. All summer league would have done is make unrealistic expectations run wild on this board.

Yeah and what if it hurt his confidence? I don't see how anything positive can come out of being benched while playing against Nigeria. In the Summer League he'd be going up against other rookies while getting lots of playing time and shots, boosting his confidence for this upcoming season.

[nahom1319]

I think both situations have their pro's and cons, and i don't think we could really say which of the two are better for him as we don't know what kind of workouts he was doing with the NT. I do know that him being with the SL team wouldn't have made him into a superstar during his rookie season. The most you can expect is that he would learn how tight fouls would be called in the nba, but guess what, he learned that lesson in the Olympics as well.

[DG88]

It's something called matchups bro . Do you want Jonas to defend Carmelo Anthony for the majority of the game? Because the USA went small ball for all their games because it gave them the greatest advantage to utilize their athleticism to overwhelm their opponents. Foul trouble and being the youngest on a veteran team that's vying for a medal were the reasons why Jonas got little playing time. In summer league he wouldn't have learned just how much he still needs to work to be at the level that he needs be to be a force in the NBA level. All summer league would have done is make unrealistic expectations run wild on this board.

Yeah and what if it hurt his confidence? I don't see how anything positive can come out of being benched while playing against Nigeria. In the Summer League he'd be going up against other rookies while getting lots of playing time and shots, boosting his confidence for this upcoming season.

Jonas said after the Olympics were done that it was a good experience for him. So no it didn't hurt his confidence but gave him a realization of how much more he has to work. Which is a good thing for his long term development. He's not gonna learn much in Summer League compared to the Olympics.

[Yoga]

Good attitude!!!

[Regression2u]

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[Listas]

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