Bryan Colangelo Radio interview tomorrow

[Wham!]

Sure if you want to think of it that way but if Iggy leaves then you just lost two assets and have nothing to show for it. Unless there's some sort of commitment from Iggy that he would re-sign with us then by all means.

That could happen with any player. I don't think it's wise to acquire players based on the likelihood they stay down the road, just go get the players you think will make the team good and the rest takes care of itself. Have some confidence in a plan, or in a move. Plus it's not like DD is a blue chipper and you'd be sacrificing much.

By the way, there's no way Iggy opts out of 16 mil in 13/14...we would have had him for 2 years at least.

[DG88]

Sure if you want to think of it that way but if Iggy leaves then you just lost two assets and have nothing to show for it. Unless there's some sort of commitment from Iggy that he would re-sign with us then by all means.

That could happen with any player. I don't think it's wise to acquire players based on the likelihood they stay down the road, just go get the players you think will make the team good and the rest takes care of itself. Have some confidence in a plan, or in a move. Plus it's not like DD is a blue chipper and you'd be sacrificing much.

By the way, there's no way Iggy opts out of 16 mil in 13/14...we would have had him for 2 years at least.

If Iggy is committed to re-sign sure make the deal, but if he isn't committed then don't bother with.

[ForeverTFC]

Even if Iggy was to resign, how much would that have cost us?

I mean, he is a guy that Philly was trying to get rid of for two years - many are now treating him as if he is a top 20 player in this league.

We would have over paid, in both money and time, for Iggy. It's not right to blast Colangelo for not using the cap properly, and then advocate this signing of Iggy. I for one am happy this didn't happen.

Would we have been better? Sure Is this a long term move? Absolutely not.

[J-Roc]

The fact BC couldn't make a deal just shows how poorly he's set the team up in the grand scheme of things. Let's not spin this into him actively making something happen.

This was the reported offer: 8th pick (Ross, but our board would have flipped out about how we could have had Lamb or Drummond if we kept the pick) along with an additional 1st round pick, Jose Calderon & Ed Davis for Iggy who is on the decline and could opt out after the season.

Assuming that was the reported offer, why would any sane GM pull the trigger? You can't find a way to bash him for saying no. Unless of course you believe he should have used some Jedi mind tricks to coerce Philly into giving us a good deal.

And if BC did make that deal you'd say "the fact BC made this deal just shows how shortsighted and desperate he is to save his job. What a fool."

Except I never did say he should have made that deal, lol.

[nahom1319]

Its funny that Bryan always mentions potential deals and always leaks names. I get the impression that he wants to make it seem like we have a team of substance capable of acquiring marquee players, yet these name drops only make us scrutinize our own players further.

I also find it funny that last years claim that he turned down Tony Parker turned out to be false. I give it 3 months before this claim that he turned down the offer is refuted again.

I would turn down Tony Parker for Jonas Valanciunus as well. Its a pretty well documented trade offer from SA's point of view and I dont see why BC would lie about that.

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2011/6/22/2 ... onio-spurs

I'm trying to hunt down the article, but during last season a writer out of texas ( i believe) stated that SA was the one to turn down the trade not the other way around. That was the point I was trying to make, Bryan claims that he has all the deals lined up ready to go and claims it was he who turned them down. This may or may not be the case depending on who you believe...

I'l keep looking for that article though

[David-Kornel]

Its funny that Bryan always mentions potential deals and always leaks names. I get the impression that he wants to make it seem like we have a team of substance capable of acquiring marquee players, yet these name drops only make us scrutinize our own players further.

I also find it funny that last years claim that he turned down Tony Parker turned out to be false. I give it 3 months before this claim that he turned down the offer is refuted again.

I would turn down Tony Parker for Jonas Valanciunus as well. Its a pretty well documented trade offer from SA's point of view and I dont see why BC would lie about that.

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2011/6/22/2 ... onio-spurs

I'm trying to hunt down the article, but during last season a writer out of texas ( i believe) stated that SA was the one to turn down the trade not the other way around. That was the point I was trying to make, Bryan claims that he has all the deals lined up ready to go and claims it was he who turned them down. This may or may not be the case depending on who you believe...

I'l keep looking for that article though

LOL, of course, who wouldn't believe a random writer, writing about a none trade by an organization, who according to some on this board, doesn't release leaks, over BC just so they can cast BC in a negative light?

[RapsFanInVA]

The fact BC couldn't make a deal just shows how poorly he's set the team up in the grand scheme of things. Let's not spin this into him actively making something happen.

This was the reported offer: 8th pick (Ross, but our board would have flipped out about how we could have had Lamb or Drummond if we kept the pick) along with an additional 1st round pick, Jose Calderon & Ed Davis for Iggy who is on the decline and could opt out after the season.

Assuming that was the reported offer, why would any sane GM pull the trigger? You can't find a way to bash him for saying no. Unless of course you believe he should have used some Jedi mind tricks to coerce Philly into giving us a good deal.

And if BC did make that deal you'd say "the fact BC made this deal just shows how shortsighted and desperate he is to save his job. What a fool."

Except I never did say he should have made that deal, lol.

Ah I see, you were talking in a very broad, global sense. The fact that he couldn't make ANY deal is somehow worth criticizing.

[J-Roc]

Except I never did say he should have made that deal, lol.

Ah I see, you were talking in a very broad, global sense. The fact that he couldn't make ANY deal is somehow worth criticizing.

Isn't it?

[sanity]

By the way, there's no way Iggy opts out of 16 mil in 13/14...we would have had him for 2 years at least.

That is a good point. I think 2 years of Igoudala's services outweighs the benefit of both Davis and DeRozan over the same timeframe... that is, if this team expects to complete for playoffs spot.

The expiring contract as well could've been used a mulligan for dealing him elsewhere if things didn't pan out--he certainly holds more stock than a pine-riding Davis and a S&T DeRozan in a year's time

[OAKLEY_2]

Does anyone care speculate how handcuffed we'd be paying him the max with the pressure squarely on us to further extend him? I'd rather have Derozan and Davis any day when we are emerging from a rebuild.

[witnessraps]

jose's expiring is a valuable asset. especially if he plays well we will be able to swing a nice deal. if we passed on iggy we will get someone as good or better down the road and it won't cost as many young assets hopefully there will be a team desperate for cap savings

[Ackshun]

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thanks in advAnce

[Adrian_05]

is there a link anywhere for this???

thanks in advAnce

http://www.tsn.ca/blogs/james_cybulski/?id=405084

I found this.

[Ackshun]

is there a link anywhere for this???

thanks in advAnce

http://www.tsn.ca/blogs/james_cybulski/?id=405084

I found this.

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