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Re: 2012-13 Toronto Raptors Trade Idea Thread

Postby Rapsobsessed7 on Fri Nov 16, 2012 12:50 pm

No way the Nuggets do that

They have Lawson & Miller why do they need or want Jose?
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Re: 2012-13 Toronto Raptors Trade Idea Thread

Postby Raptorfan2012 on Fri Nov 16, 2012 12:55 pm

ballislife wrote:I think Gallinari will become available with the way he and the Nuggets are playing...

Would you guys trade Calderon and Ross for him? It could work out well for both sides. Maybe we could try to grab Andre Miller as our backup PG, we'd have to add someone like Ed Davis or Amir (preferably Ed). I'd do that.


LOL of course we would do that; BC will be dancing for joy if all it takes to get Gallinari is Ross and Calderon.

Denver will NOT be doing this though; they see Gallinari as a core piece. Heck, Bargnani can't even get us Gallinari.

Most likely obtainable SF is Chandler, and we probably will not have to give up any core pieces to get him (I consider Ross a core future piece for now).
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Re: 2012-13 Toronto Raptors Trade Idea Thread

Postby Morris_Shatford on Fri Nov 16, 2012 2:09 pm

ballislife wrote:What about something like Ed Davis and TRoss for Derrick Williams...


I have no idea what Williams value is;
However he is the sort of player I see BC going after.
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Re: 2012-13 Toronto Raptors Trade Idea Thread

Postby Master Ze on Fri Nov 16, 2012 3:35 pm

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=cywnxmj

Toronto out: Terrence Ross, Linus Kleiza, Ed Davis
Toronto in: Wilson Chandler, Austin Daye

Detroit out: Tayshaun Prince, Austin Daye
Detroit in: Linus Kleiza, Terrence Ross, Ed Davis, Nuggets protected first round pick

Denver out: Wilson Chandler
Denver in: Tayshaun Prince

Toronto: Obtain a starting SF and a promising young prospect in Austin Daye
Detroit: Move TP's long-term contract for 2 young prospects, a first, and Kleiza.
Denver: Move their bench SF for a veteran SF who can start over Gallinari since he's been struggling.
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Re: 2012-13 Toronto Raptors Trade Idea Thread

Postby Morris_Shatford on Fri Nov 16, 2012 4:27 pm

Master Ze wrote:http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=cywnxmj

Toronto out: Terrence Ross, Linus Kleiza, Ed Davis
Toronto in: Wilson Chandler, Austin Daye

Detroit out: Tayshaun Prince, Austin Daye
Detroit in: Linus Kleiza, Terrence Ross, Ed Davis, Nuggets protected first round pick

Denver out: Wilson Chandler
Denver in: Tayshaun Prince

Toronto: Obtain a starting SF and a promising young prospect in Austin Daye
Detroit: Move TP's long-term contract for 2 young prospects, a first, and Kleiza.
Denver: Move their bench SF for a veteran SF who can start over Gallinari since he's been struggling.


I'm not convinced Chandler's value is that high;
He isn't playing and he is simply a victim of better players being ahead of him.

Kleiza and the Sac 2nd is about as high as I would go.
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Re: 2012-13 Toronto Raptors Trade Idea Thread

Postby ash_k on Fri Nov 16, 2012 9:00 pm

Ok let's dream a bit!

So the Pacers have a bad start and Paul George argues with management and ask for a trade:

Bargnani + J Calderon + L Fields to INDY
P.George to RAPS

OK Contract wise IT DOES NOT WORK but always good to dream

PG Lowry
SG DeRozan
SF George
PF
C Valanciunas
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Re: 2012-13 Toronto Raptors Trade Idea Thread

Postby JunkYardSubs on Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:13 pm

I think we should send Bargs somewhere and maybe roll the dice with Derrick Williams.
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Re: 2012-13 Toronto Raptors Trade Idea Thread

Postby SaveTheHens on Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:16 pm

Toronto in: Jason Thompson, Chuck Hayes

Toronto out: Andrea Bargnani, Ed Davis

Swap some bigs, Thompson has nice upside, Hayes would bring a lot of toughness. Raps make the playoffs.

Of course if Bargnani wakes up from his coma and gets back in "13 game mode" then we would regret this, but if bargnani stays mr. inconsistent I think it would be a great trade for the team
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Re: 2012-13 Toronto Raptors Trade Idea Thread

Postby Rejected on Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:17 pm

Biedrins/Jefferson and Harrision Barns for Bargnani and Acy
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Re: 2012-13 Toronto Raptors Trade Idea Thread

Postby Master Ze on Sat Nov 17, 2012 1:44 am

^ The team has Lee and Bogut locked up contract wise so I'm not sure why they'd throw away their best SF for a PF who comes off the bench. Carl Landry has been playing well for them off the bench anyway.
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Re: 2012-13 Toronto Raptors Trade Idea Thread

Postby TheGoodDoctor on Sat Nov 17, 2012 1:57 am

JunkYardSubs wrote:I think we should send Bargs somewhere and maybe roll the dice with Derrick Williams.


Said this last year that we should make a play for Williams.

He's already friends with DeRozan and Amir and Adelman just doesn't seem to be his biggest fan. I think he's one of those players that could blossom in the right situation but it has to happen asap before his confidence is ruined and his development is stunted.



As for the poster that proposed getting Paul George lol you can't be serious....IND laughs at us; uncontrollably.
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Re: 2012-13 Toronto Raptors Trade Idea Thread

Postby Dr Positivity on Sat Nov 17, 2012 2:07 am

I like Thompson but he's Amir/Ed 3.0... that just seems pointless.

I can't find great fits for Bargs around the league... not a great sign. Jeff Green or Wilson Chandler seem like they make the most sense. But I don't expect either make us better to move the meter and they both have ugly contracts. Best option is probably waiting until the team is 15 games under .500 at the TD, then dumping him for expirings and picks and unleashing teh tank & pray on lottery day plan
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Re: 2012-13 Toronto Raptors Trade Idea Thread

Postby TheGoodDoctor on Sat Nov 17, 2012 2:12 am

Dr Positivity wrote:I like Thompson but he's Amir/Ed 3.0... that just seems pointless.

I can't find great fits for Bargs around the league... not a great sign. Jeff Green or Wilson Chandler seem like they make the most sense. But I don't expect either make us better to move the meter and they both have ugly contracts. Might as well trade him at the deadlines for expirings/picks to tank if that's the case


I could never see Boston taking on Bargnani....ever.


So I don't see how the Jeff Green trade even being a possibility.
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Re: 2012-13 Toronto Raptors Trade Idea Thread

Postby ballislife on Sat Nov 17, 2012 2:13 am

TheGoodDoctor wrote:
JunkYardSubs wrote:I think we should send Bargs somewhere and maybe roll the dice with Derrick Williams.


Said this last year that we should make a play for Williams.

He's already friends with DeRozan and Amir and Adelman just doesn't seem to be his biggest fan. I think he's one of those players that could blossom in the right situation but it has to happen asap before his confidence is ruined and his development is stunted.



As for the poster that proposed getting Paul George lol you can't be serious....IND laughs at us; uncontrollably.


This is EXACTLY what I've been thinking for the past while. This seems like the kind of move BC would make (as posted above after I suggested it). He can play SF... Adelman just doesnt want him playing the 3.

If it's true that he's only a tweener, what a better team to be a tweener on than with Bargnani - who's a 3 in a 5's body. It's really a perfect compliment. DWill is a good piece that we should be trying to add. In the 2011 draft, I distinctly remember BC saying, "there's only 2 sure players in this draft, and they're at the top of the list" - that was Irving and 100% Derrick Williams - so we all know he thinks highly of him. He definitely thought more of DWill than of JV during the draft, that's apparent.

He can hit the three and run the floor and jump out of the gym... he's athletic and would fit in perfectly with DeMar.. not to mention he has a good relationship with guys on our team. And best of all, he's still so young. This is the guy, if I were BC, I'd be trying to make a low risk, high reward move on. He could actually fill out his potential with us. It's a good fit. Most people are preconceived with the thought that he's a PF no question - when we have Bargnani, that doesn't matter my friends. Take a stab at DWill and realize that he's perfect for us.

We could probably get him for Terrence Ross (who's a duplication at the 2), and Ed Davis (a duplication at 4). Even then, some people would say we're giving up too much. I would do that though. That's a consensus #2 overall pick we're talking about.
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Re: 2012-13 Toronto Raptors Trade Idea Thread

Postby Dr Positivity on Sat Nov 17, 2012 2:16 am

Timberwolves say no but maybe

Den gets Bargs

Min gets W Chandler

Tor gets Williams + contracts

Williams for Wilson Chandler looks pretty good for Minnesota IMO
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