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Should Bryan Colangelo be Fired

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Re: Should Bryan Colangelo be Fired 

Post#856 » by Dr Positivity » Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:30 pm

Yeah Weaver is going to be hired by someone within a year, I'd move quickly if we decide we want him IMO. Detroit or Washington could easily fire their GM before the ASB, Dumars and Grunfield should've been fired 2 years ago like BC. Sac will fire Petrie soon too but I assume Weaver's not taking that job unless the Maloofs have sold by that point

More importantly, I don't want to give BC a chance to make his panic trade. I'm still worried about him dealing Ross for Wilson Chandler or something
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Re: Should Bryan Colangelo be Fired 

Post#857 » by Dr Positivity » Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:37 pm

Another name to seriously consider: Mark Warkentien. EOY in Denver and got them to the WCF, then joins the Knicks as a consultant and helps put together the start to the season they've had. If MLSE is into experience and credibility instead of a newbie like Weaver, Warkentien sounds like a top notch choice.
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Re: Should Bryan Colangelo be Fired 

Post#858 » by J Dilla » Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:48 pm

Warkentien has been previously interviewed by the MLSE when they decided to go for Babcock.

I think Warkentein has enough on his resume by now to bring him here. Another name to consider is K-Pritch and if somehow we can bring back Glen Grunwald that would be even better.
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Re: Should Bryan Colangelo be Fired 

Post#859 » by Dr Positivity » Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:49 pm

The Pritch got hired by Indiana
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Re: Should Bryan Colangelo be Fired 

Post#860 » by lander » Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:50 pm

J Dilla wrote:Warkentien has been previously interviewed by the MLSE when they decided to go for Babcock.

I think Warkentein has enough on his resume by now to bring him here. Another name to consider is K-Pritch and if somehow we can bring back Glen Grunwald that would be even better.


He is the Indiana Pacers GM now.
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Re: Should Bryan Colangelo be Fired 

Post#861 » by Dr Positivity » Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:59 pm

I still think the best move for the new GM if he comes here is to trade Lowry and Bargnani for as many draft picks as possible. I think we can get UTA 1st, GSW 1st from Utah for Lowry, maybe another top 25 pick for Bargs. Then roll out a deep roster of first/second year players next year and tank 4 Wiggins
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Re: Should Bryan Colangelo be Fired 

Post#862 » by Scase » Sat Nov 17, 2012 11:52 pm

HomieOmey wrote:
Scase wrote:This is the exact thing that Hillbilly Hare was saying, the reasoning behind firing him is because of the 6 years prior, how this season is going is irrelevant. Short of his "vision" actually being a success this year and us having a 45-50 win season there is no reason for him to remain here. And I don't know if you've been watching this season but that's pretty unlikely.


Short of a 45-50 win season there is no reason for him to remain here? If that's the thinking, he should have been fired before this season started as those were never really realistic expectations. Again, I'm not a fan of his at all, I just think this would be very weird timing to fire him. I agree that he should have been fired earlier, but he was kept around. I mean just a few months ago people were praising him for 1) Getting us "one of the top coaches in the game," and getting both Lowry and Jonas. The whole Nash ordeal was a disaster, but it's not like the Knicks or Nets didn't go through a similar speed bump in their pursuits of James/Bosh. Remember that the Nets also threw ridiculous money at an unspectacular role player. Apparently an awful trade for Crash, overpaying for Lopez, and trading for "the worst contract in the NBA" was enough to save the Nets GM from doing a horrible job.

It just seems like bad timing to me. Yes, he should have been fired prior to this point, and I would not shed one tear if he was fired tonight, I just don't get the timing. Especially during a rather ugly schedule with most hammering on and on about the refs being absolutely atrocious.

That's my whole point, the only thing that can save his job at this point is a 45-50 win season and that's not happening and he should have been fired years ago.

Again the whole point of firing him now is to prevent even MORE damage to the franchise. What happens if he decides to try and save his job and trades away some of our future for more win now bullsht and sets the franchise back even more years?

It's been argued that getting 8-9th place would save his job. What's stopping him from trading away Ross or JV in an attempt to produce that result? The fanbase would be livid if that happened yet MLSE would probably extend the moron again and we'd be middling round 1 fodder meanwhile having no cap flexibility or assets for years to come.
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Re: Should Bryan Colangelo be Fired 

Post#863 » by elmer_yuck » Sun Nov 18, 2012 12:04 am

Dr Positivity wrote:I still think the best move for the new GM if he comes here is to trade Lowry and Bargnani for as many draft picks as possible. I think we can get UTA 1st, GSW 1st from Utah for Lowry, maybe another top 25 pick for Bargs. Then roll out a deep roster of first/second year players next year and tank 4 Wiggins


Give it a rest already.
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Re: Should Bryan Colangelo be Fired 

Post#864 » by UnderdogRaptors » Sun Nov 18, 2012 12:50 am

elmer_yuck wrote:
Dr Positivity wrote:I still think the best move for the new GM if he comes here is to trade Lowry and Bargnani for as many draft picks as possible. I think we can get UTA 1st, GSW 1st from Utah for Lowry, maybe another top 25 pick for Bargs. Then roll out a deep roster of first/second year players next year and tank 4 Wiggins


Give it a rest already.

Everything Mufasa has said is right on point.
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Re: Should Bryan Colangelo be Fired 

Post#865 » by suntzuballin » Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:57 am

LeBronNextMJ wrote:
elmer_yuck wrote:
Dr Positivity wrote:I still think the best move for the new GM if he comes here is to trade Lowry and Bargnani for as many draft picks as possible. I think we can get UTA 1st, GSW 1st from Utah for Lowry, maybe another top 25 pick for Bargs. Then roll out a deep roster of first/second year players next year and tank 4 Wiggins


Give it a rest already.

Everything Mufasa has said is right on point.


if he trade Ross over Bargani I will diffently not watch the raptors until him and Primo are out of this franchise I would be too angry
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Re: Should Bryan Colangelo be Fired 

Post#866 » by ballislife » Sun Nov 18, 2012 5:06 am

Why hasnt BC had a single interview with the media since the season started?? It's like he trying to avoid everyone ripping on him for what's going on because he's scared...

I can't wait to hear what he has to say about this.
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Re: Should Bryan Colangelo be Fired 

Post#867 » by Tacoma » Sun Nov 18, 2012 6:31 am

Dr Positivity wrote:I still think the best move for the new GM if he comes here is to trade Lowry and Bargnani for as many draft picks as possible. I think we can get UTA 1st, GSW 1st from Utah for Lowry, maybe another top 25 pick for Bargs. Then roll out a deep roster of first/second year players next year and tank 4 Wiggins


The Raptors need all star talent and trading Lowry for UTA or GSW firsts won't likley land you in the top 10. They're better off trying to get their own pick back by trading Lowry to OKC in the hope they want Lowry to replace Harden as 6th man. That would be ironic and the new GM's reversal of BC's trade that would be a fitting indictment of BC's failures here.

In any case, trading Lowry may be a good idea if the Raptors continue to suck and Lowry will, as a result, not re-sign here. However, you don't wait until next year when you're stuck with having to deal with whichever team Lowry tells you he's willing to sign with, or Lowry screws them like Bosh did.
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Re: Should Bryan Colangelo be Fired 

Post#868 » by Volcano » Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:24 am

LeBronNextMJ wrote:
elmer_yuck wrote:
Dr Positivity wrote:I still think the best move for the new GM if he comes here is to trade Lowry and Bargnani for as many draft picks as possible. I think we can get UTA 1st, GSW 1st from Utah for Lowry, maybe another top 25 pick for Bargs. Then roll out a deep roster of first/second year players next year and tank 4 Wiggins


Give it a rest already.

Everything Mufasa has said is right on point.


u joined 2 weeks ago and u know he's Mufasa?
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Re: Should Bryan Colangelo be Fired 

Post#869 » by Scase » Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:27 am

Volcano wrote:
u joined 2 weeks ago and u know he's Mufasa?

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Re: Should Bryan Colangelo be Fired 

Post#870 » by UnderdogRaptors » Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:49 am

u joined 2 weeks ago and u know he's Mufasa?[/quote]
Nah I've been a long time lurker lol :wink:
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Re: Should Bryan Colangelo be Fired 

Post#871 » by Scase » Sun Nov 18, 2012 9:54 am

LeBronNextMJ wrote:u joined 2 weeks ago and u know he's Mufasa?

Nah I've been a long time lurker lol :wink:[/quote]
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Re: Should Bryan Colangelo be Fired 

Post#872 » by Kurtz » Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:54 am

Tacoma wrote:
The Raptors need all star talent and trading Lowry for UTA or GSW firsts won't likley land you in the top 10. They're better off trying to get their own pick back by trading Lowry to OKC in the hope they want Lowry to replace Harden as 6th man. That would be ironic and the new GM's reversal of BC's trade that would be a fitting indictment of BC's failures here.

In any case, trading Lowry may be a good idea if the Raptors continue to suck and Lowry will, as a result, not re-sign here. However, you don't wait until next year when you're stuck with having to deal with whichever team Lowry tells you he's willing to sign with, or Lowry screws them like Bosh did.


Actually, trading Lowry straight-up for our pick back would be a fitting indictment of the failure of the new GM.

We're in no danger of Lowry leaving this off-season. If it's looking grim next season, we can move him then.
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Re: Should Bryan Colangelo be Fired 

Post#873 » by grimlock » Sun Nov 18, 2012 1:13 pm

The thing that interests me most is the medias lack of opinion on the whole matter. Toronto sports management in general gets away with mediocrity all to easily. Our city is all to comfortable with mediocrity.
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Re: Should Bryan Colangelo be Fired 

Post#874 » by OAKLEY_2 » Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:37 pm

Actually, trading Lowry straight-up for our pick back would be a fitting indictment of the failure of the new GM.

Watch Lowry get the max this summer.
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Re: Should Bryan Colangelo be Fired 

Post#875 » by kirkwood » Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:58 pm

Sorry Colangelo, there is no way out of this mess, trades won't work, signing unsigned bums won't work. The only thing we should do right now is fire Bryan and tank hard for the #1 pick.
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