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POLL: Who Should Be Our Closer?

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:48 pm
by TripleMKE
The Raptors just keep forgetting how to play basketball in the 4th quarter when the game is close. So I wanna know who should have the ball in their hands when the game's coming down to the wire because I'm tired of these Aaron Gray pick and rolls.

The Raptors scored 5 points in the 4th quarter yesterday...that's just embarrassing. This needs to Stop!

Re: POLL: Who Should Be Our Closer?

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:51 pm
by Shaazzam
Base it on matchups but we need a plan.

Re: Who Should Be Our Closer?

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:51 pm
by Coach Smiley
The sad thing is it is there for the taking, but no one wants to step up, when you are a kid playing in the backyard this is what you should want, to take over and close games. It is such a luxury having a guy that will actually take that roll on. Listen to Doc Rivers in huddles at the end of games, all he he has to say is Paul take us home and Pierce does the rest. I wish Bargnani would be that guy but he looks as shook as anyone

Re: POLL: Who Should Be Our Closer?

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 3:02 pm
by KnickerBonkerz
Lowry is the best option for a closer the Raptors have. He hit a big shot in Indiana that woulda been the game winner, had George Hill not come back and hit his shot.

The guy just has so much confidence, and can create his own shot the best out of anyone we have. Easy

Re: POLL: Who Should Be Our Closer?

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 3:04 pm
by sanity
My vote goes to the walking corpse of a Bargnani who doesn't do anything other than rush perimeter 3pt shots

Re: POLL: Who Should Be Our Closer?

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 3:09 pm
by Death Knight
The first answer is Lowry. And as much as I don't trust DeMar during crunch time, I think it's worth a look if he has a smaller player on him. He has shown he's willing to take em in the post this season. Bargnani is no longer an option. The dude has consistently taken wild turn around fades that hit the side of the board, no thanks.

Re: POLL: Who Should Be Our Closer?

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 3:20 pm
by StevieWonderMic
Lowry with the ball in his hands and if it's there take it. Derozan should be first tho then Andrea. Derozan has been getting mad and I like that. It's not fake toughness either, he's legit pissed.

Re: POLL: Who Should Be Our Closer?

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 3:27 pm
by Qhawe
I think its pretty clear we dont have a consistent one yet. Demar is close but he's not there. he cant handle the double team yet. Lowry is probaly the closest but I just don't trust him either

Re: POLL: Who Should Be Our Closer?

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 3:48 pm
by Undefeated
I guess Lowry because he has the shot-creating and shot-making ability, and the explosiveness out of a triple threat/jab step game to attack hard when he has an angle to the rim. That deceptive crossover of his allows him to navigate to anywhere he wants to on the floor. Though, ISOs can easily be stopped especially when those guys don't look to pass which Lowry does have a tendency to do.

I wouldn't mind seeing DeMar or Terrence Ross either. With the way how defenses are playing against the Raptors by packing the paint I'd run some pindowns like screen-the-screener for those two guys to get the shot as soon as they explode off the pick. Even if DeMar isn't an efficient 3-point shooter right now he's shown the confidence to rise up and cooly shoot which is the biggest trait when you want your guys to close out. Can't be having players taking that last shot when they get shook up in the moment being hesitant and allowing the defense to recover for a closeout. But yeah, something like how the Spurs ran last night for Danny Green with the false action on the baseline with that brush screen, and flaring out to the wing for the catch-and-shoot after the pindown for Ross, Calderon, Lowry or DeRozan would work.

Re: POLL: Who Should Be Our Closer?

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 3:53 pm
by evenflow
Whoever has a good shot.

There should be no one individual player who automatically gets the ball in those situations. Run a team orientated offense and just get a good shot. We have guys who can hit those shots, just make sure we get the best shot possible.

No more of this one on one and Iso BS.


*Is it Whoever? or Who ever? Grammar has never been my forte :(

Re: POLL: Who Should Be Our Closer?

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:05 pm
by Indeed
Lowry

I don't think scoring on the 4th is the problem.
Our problem was earlier in the game, where our bench lacked scoring.

Best would have another ball penetrator off the bench, rather than John Lucas, who I thought can take the job from pre-season. A stretch big like Kleiza would be useful as well.

Re: POLL: Who Should Be Our Closer?

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:22 pm
by billyc
The one that has the best possibility of scoring given the spacing on the floor and the player's ability to score on that spot.

Re: POLL: Who Should Be Our Closer?

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:23 pm
by andrej perboski
sanity wrote:My vote goes to the walking corpse of a Bargnani who doesn't do anything other than rush perimeter 3pt shots



Maybe this is Casey's plan
He shoot too much from the arc this year, the max in career (4.3 for game)

Re: POLL: Who Should Be Our Closer?

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:25 pm
by Just Win Baby
Clearly, it should be Jose Triple Double Calderon

Re: POLL: Who Should Be Our Closer?

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:28 pm
by niQ
1) Kyle Lowry
2) Whoever gets the ball happens to fall to between DeRozan/JL3/Ross.

Re: POLL: Who Should Be Our Closer?

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:28 pm
by lobosloboslobos
evenflow wrote:Whoever has a good shot.

There should be no one individual player who automatically gets the ball in those situations. Run a team orientated offense and just get a good shot. We have guys who can hit those shots, just make sure we get the best shot possible.

No more of this one on one and Iso BS.


I agree with this. Iso ball bores me. But having said that, who would i want to have the ball with the game on the line:

1) Lowry
2) Val - I think we should build our entire offence around him and that includes the end of the game
3) Demar

Re: POLL: Who Should Be Our Closer?

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:28 pm
by Big Shot
At the moment, it's Lowry. DD might have a chance as time goes by and he improves. First he has to stop doing that 360 turn around jumper.

Re: POLL: Who Should Be Our Closer?

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:28 pm
by fredericklove
Lowry or Rudy Gay.

Re: POLL: Who Should Be Our Closer?

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:31 pm
by sanity
As much as it pains me to say Bargnani is actually shooting reasonably well from the 3 this season. Anything/everything else, he's been quite disastrous at

Re: POLL: Who Should Be Our Closer?

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:39 pm
by witnessraps
I think if we're talking fourth quarter in general, we need a steady dose of Lowry and DeMar almost every possession. They have proven they can make good things happen off the bounce going to the basket.

If we're talking last second shot kind of play then I'm going with Lowry then DeMar and Andrea a distant 3rd at this point